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soxtalker
03-21-2008, 03:46 PM
There have been many trade discussions about Crede and Uribe. Let's say that they both stay on the Sox throughout the 2008 season and then are signed by other teams. Do we know now what sort of draft-pick compensation we would get? Could this change significantly (depending on how each plays this year)?

The Immigrant
03-21-2008, 03:58 PM
We don't know now and it could change significantly based on each player's performance in 2008. Based on historical performance, we could expect to receive Type B compensation for Crede and in all likelihood nothing for Uribe (unless he has a monster year). We would only receive draft pick compensation if we offered arbitration.

soxtalker
03-21-2008, 04:31 PM
We don't know now and it could change significantly based on each player's performance in 2008. Based on historical performance, we could expect to receive Type B compensation for Crede and in all likelihood nothing for Uribe (unless he has a monster year). We would only receive draft pick compensation if we offered arbitration.

OK, so the draft-pick compensation is likely not a factor with Uribe to either the Sox or any team to whom we might trade him. I guess that it is a minor consideration in any trade that involves Crede.

btrain929
03-21-2008, 05:20 PM
Doesn't whether or not we receive a draft pick for them depend on the past 2 years of the players performance, and if there are in the top whatever percentage at their position? With Crede being out most of last year, no matter what year he has this year, I don't think we could get a draft pick for him.

I'm only about 60% sure on this. I'm sure other people on here are a little more sure on the process.

The Immigrant
03-21-2008, 05:41 PM
The compensation depends on the player's ranking by Elias Sports Bureau based on his performance over the past two seasons.

"The rankings are compiled based upon player performance over the past two seasons. Under the new collective bargaining agreement, the rankings are used to determine whether players are Type "A" or Type "B." The classification determines which draft picks former teams receive as compensation if they sign with another team. The top 20% of the rankings are 'A' and the next 20% 'B.'"

The rankings for 2006-2007 show both Crede and Uribe as Type B free agents, although just barely, even though Crede missed most of 2007.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/al/2007-10-31-elias-rankings-complete_N.htm

soxtalker
03-21-2008, 07:07 PM
The compensation depends on the player's ranking by Elias Sports Bureau based on his performance over the past two seasons.

"The rankings are compiled based upon player performance over the past two seasons. Under the new collective bargaining agreement, the rankings are used to determine whether players are Type "A" or Type "B." The classification determines which draft picks former teams receive as compensation if they sign with another team. The top 20% of the rankings are 'A' and the next 20% 'B.'"

The rankings for 2006-2007 show both Crede and Uribe as Type B free agents, although just barely, even though Crede missed most of 2007.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/al/2007-10-31-elias-rankings-complete_N.htm

So, if a team thinks that they will have good years, they represent draft picks. On the other hand, it is a bit of a risk. If they have just average years to poor years, they don't yield any draft picks. (And, of course, the team must offer arbitration.) Hmm... doesn't seem like that would factor much into trade discussions for either of them.