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Fenway
03-04-2008, 11:42 PM
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/the-ten-worst-leadoff-hitters-since-1957/

The Hardball Times takes a look at the worst leadoff hitters since 1957, and they conclude nobody was worse than Ivan DeJesus with the Chicago Cubs in 1981

santo=dorf
03-04-2008, 11:45 PM
But how fast were they and what were their stolen base totals? That's all that matters!

Oblong
03-05-2008, 10:02 AM
whenever a manager just puts the fastest guy at the leadoff spot I think "uh oh..."

Just because they may steal a lot of bases like Rickey Henderson doesn't mean it's a good idea. Rickey's value wasn't his steals. His steals were a product of his value.

kjhanson
03-05-2008, 10:43 AM
According to the author, a leadoff batter is only as good as his OPS+ (a comparison of OPS to the league average). In other words, I wouldn't put too much weight in these "rankings".

Of note, however, is that the "25th worst" leadoff hitter had an OPS+ of 66. Jerry Owens' OPS+ was 67 last year. (It was a 75 in the 2nd half)

ode to veeck
03-05-2008, 11:45 AM
I love seeing Ozzie Smith on the list, one of the most overrated players of all time.

santo=dorf
03-05-2008, 11:29 PM
According to the author, a leadoff batter is only as good as his OPS+ (a comparison of OPS to the league average). In other words, I wouldn't put too much weight in these "rankings".

Of note, however, is that the "25th worst" leadoff hitter had an OPS+ of 66. Jerry Owens' OPS+ was 67 last year. (It was a 75 in the 2nd half)
Really says something about Jerry Owens doesn't it? For reference Brian Anderson's OPS+ in 2006 was 65.

Tragg
03-06-2008, 12:35 PM
Really says something about Jerry Owens doesn't it? For reference Brian Anderson's OPS+ in 2006 was 65.
Can you tell me what OPS+ means? Would 100 be league average?

Oblong
03-06-2008, 12:39 PM
Yes it would be. It takes OPS and adjusts for league and ballpark factors. 100 is an average player.