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Over By There
02-28-2008, 03:26 PM
Not much groundbreaking analysis here, but some mildly interesting commentary on Jose.

Garland thought the struggles of Jose Contreras last year had less to do with a tired arm.
"I think it was more mental. It's a lot tougher than people think. People think you dealt one game, you should be able to do that your whole career. It's not like that."
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2008/02/garland-likes-s.html

skobabe8
02-28-2008, 03:46 PM
Didnt see much wrong with anything he said.

rdivaldi
02-28-2008, 04:07 PM
I think that's code for, "Jose's divorce messed with his mind the entire season." I personally don't doubt it...

Frontman
02-28-2008, 04:39 PM
Thanks Jon. Enjoy LA.

Goose
02-28-2008, 04:53 PM
I think Jon will enjoy LA, but I think he will miss the Sox at the same time. You cannot spend your entire career with the same club and not feel a connection with it. I do think though that JC's problems were mostly mental, but there has to be some ramifications of his age that will show...which one is more prevalent at this point, I am not sure.

sox1970
02-28-2008, 04:59 PM
I think Jon will enjoy LA, but I think he will miss the Sox at the same time. You cannot spend your entire career with the same club and not feel a connection with it. I do think though that JC's problems were mostly mental, but there has to be some ramifications of his age that will show...which one is more prevalent at this point, I am not sure.

Garland had some good things to say:

http://losangeles.angels.mlb.com/media/player/mp_tpl.jsp?w_id=612181&w=mms%3A//a1503.v108692.c10869.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1503/10869/v0001/mlb.download.akamai.com/10869/2008/open/teams08/ana/video/022008_ana_garland_int_400.wmv&pid=gen_video&mid=200802202382186&cid=mlb&fid=gen_video400&v=2&mType=w&urlstr=&mUrl=&type=v_free&_mp=1

Brian26
02-28-2008, 07:31 PM
Garland had some good things to say:

http://losangeles.angels.mlb.com/media/player/mp_tpl.jsp?w_id=612181&w=mms%3A//a1503.v108692.c10869.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1503/10869/v0001/mlb.download.akamai.com/10869/2008/open/teams08/ana/video/022008_ana_garland_int_400.wmv&pid=gen_video&mid=200802202382186&cid=mlb&fid=gen_video400&v=2&mType=w&urlstr=&mUrl=&type=v_free&_mp=1

Geezus did that interviewer stir the pot or what?

:stirpot:

"You've been traded every year for the past 19 years."

:stirpot:

"After a season like 2005 and World Series, why wouldn't you feel safe in your position."

:stirpot:

"Will you miss Chicago?"

:stirpot:

PeoriaSoxFan
02-28-2008, 08:17 PM
He really didn't say anything too bad. I wonder how Jon will fare when he faces the Sox for the first time this year. Hopefully, poorly. The Sox seem to hit pitchers better who feature the fastball, not sure how they have done against sinker ballers.

chisox77
02-28-2008, 09:10 PM
I wish Jon Garland well with LA.


:cool:

DumpJerry
02-28-2008, 10:25 PM
He really didn't say anything too bad. I wonder how Jon will fare when he faces the Sox for the first time this year. Hopefully, poorly. The Sox seem to hit pitchers better who feature the fastball, not sure how they have done against sinker ballers.
Well, Big Frank did very well against the Sox in his first game against us. Garland was on the mound......

palehozenychicty
02-29-2008, 08:49 AM
Well, Big Frank did very well against the Sox in his first game against us. Garland was on the mound......

Lord, don't remind me...:mad:

skottyj242
02-29-2008, 09:05 AM
Lord, don't remind me...:mad:

I don't know what that means. We won that game. I believe it was the first COTC?

Iwritecode
02-29-2008, 09:33 AM
I don't know what that means. We won that game. I believe it was the first COTC?

It was. First "walk-off" suicide-squeeze I've ever seen. :D:

Zisk77
02-29-2008, 09:42 AM
It was. First "walk-off" suicide-squeeze I've ever seen. :D:

Actually wasn't a squeeze (which many games have ended on). Ozuna bunted for a hit. the runner on third was not breaking on the pitch (hence no suicide), bunt simply ran once the ball was bunted. It was a bunt-off :cool:.

stockonline2
02-29-2008, 09:44 AM
Man, that was a great game! Best of 2006 I would say.

slavko
02-29-2008, 09:49 AM
Actually wasn't a squeeze (which many games have ended on). Ozuna bunted for a hit. the runner on third was not breaking on the pitch (hence no suicide), bunt simply ran once the ball was bunted. It was a bunt-off :cool:.

Not quite. That kind of a squeeze is called a safety squeeze, wherein the runner on 3rd gets a nice lead but doesn't take off until the bunt is down. No, the batter is not bunting for a hit. He is bunting to advance the runner. It's exactly the same in execution as the sacrifice bunt that is executed when a runner is on first and you're trying to advance him to second.

KenBerryGrab
02-29-2008, 10:19 AM
Actually wasn't a squeeze (which many games have ended on). Ozuna bunted for a hit. the runner on third was not breaking on the pitch (hence no suicide), bunt simply ran once the ball was bunted. It was a bunt-off :cool:.

Safety squeeze.

SSrep
02-29-2008, 10:24 AM
It sure was a squeeze

Taliesinrk
02-29-2008, 10:37 AM
Actually wasn't a squeeze (which many games have ended on). Ozuna bunted for a hit. the runner on third was not breaking on the pitch (hence no suicide), bunt simply ran once the ball was bunted. It was a bunt-off :cool:.

actually.. to get technical, i believe the correct phrase would be safety-squeeze... and it was awesome!

LITTLE NELL
02-29-2008, 01:34 PM
After watching some his outings last year, I dont like his chances very much either.

Frontman
02-29-2008, 03:22 PM
After watching some his outings last year, I dont like his chances very much either.

Bite Thy Tounge! Never speaketh ill of Jon Garland or the LoAR*. Isth thou blind? Garland cannot do wrong.















*Legend of Aaron Rowand

spawn
02-29-2008, 03:24 PM
Bite Thy Tounge! Never speaketh ill of Jon Garland or the LoAR*. Isth thou blind? Garland cannot do wrong.















*Legend of Aaron Rowand
:rolling:

BadBobbyJenks
02-29-2008, 04:22 PM
Not quite. That kind of a squeeze is called a safety squeeze, wherein the runner on 3rd gets a nice lead but doesn't take off until the bunt is down. No, the batter is not bunting for a hit. He is bunting to advance the runner. It's exactly the same in execution as the sacrifice bunt that is executed when a runner is on first and you're trying to advance him to second.

But he had to bunt for a hit, there were 2 outs.

Jjav829
03-01-2008, 11:54 AM
After watching some his outings last year, I dont like his chances very much either.

I like his chances more than at least 3 of our starters this year.

champagne030
03-01-2008, 12:05 PM
I like his chances more than at least 3 of our starters this year.

I wish a straight up bet would be available to take Garland vs any of our 3-5........

TDog
03-01-2008, 12:21 PM
But he had to bunt for a hit, there were 2 outs.

Yes. And the fact that there were two outs made it not a squeeze. A squeeze ostensibly is a sacrifice that often doesn't lead to an out, or at least a play on the batter-runner, because there is a play at the plate. There is no such thing as a sacrifice with two outs. (A well-executed suicide squeeze, however, will tend to result in an out because the runner is corssing the plate by the time the pitcher fields the ball.)

The "squeeze" appellation given the play by the media covering the game demonstrates how little the reporting media knows about baseball.

MarySwiss
03-01-2008, 05:18 PM
Lord, don't remind me...:mad:

I don't know what that means. We won that game. I believe it was the first COTC?

It was. First "walk-off" suicide-squeeze I've ever seen. :D:

Actually, I believe that was the second COTC. I seem to remember one getting put together late in 2005, but I wasn't able to get there. But I sure remember that one!!!

Man, that was a great game! Best of 2006 I would say.
Yep! It had it all; Big Frank's two dingers, the goofy squirrel free-for-all, Mackowiak tying it, and then the win!

The only regret I have is that I tried to make that 11:05 train to Tinley (missed it anyway), when I should have just hung out with you guys. Even if I had missed the 12:30 train, I would have been spared sitting around LaSalle Street station for 1.5 hours. And then Kevin57 would have had company as he waited for the 8 am train--or we could have split a cab.

Good Times!

balke
03-01-2008, 05:40 PM
I like his chances more than at least 3 of our starters this year.

I would say 4 until JV proves he can do it again.

TDog
03-01-2008, 11:33 PM
Actually, I believe that was the second COTC. I seem to remember one getting put together late in 2005, but I wasn't able to get there. But I sure remember that one! ...

The only Sox game I remember ending with an actual squeeze was the last game of the 2000 season, Game 3 of the ALDS in Seattle, when Lou Piniella had the bases loaded and none out in the ninth inning with the score tied at 1 and had pinch-hitter Carlos Guillen bunt toward Frank Thomas, saying later he knew Thomas wouldn't be able to throw out the runner at home.

Guillen was credited with a hit, but that was a true squeeze.

I imagine a lot of Sox fans are trying to forget that game.

Red Barchetta
03-02-2008, 09:32 AM
Pretty fair comments. Honestly, unless one of the 2005 WS Team members completely rip the SOX fans, there is nothing they can say that will tarnish the feelings I have toward the 2005 team as I enjoyed watching them too much. Especially the last 17 games of the season! :smile:

captainclutch24
03-02-2008, 12:32 PM
I'll agree with Jon Garlands statement.

Circle gets the square goodnight everyone