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RKMeibalane
02-24-2008, 06:12 PM
From bluejays.com:

Fine-tuning: Blue Jays designated hitter Frank Thomas has been in Florida since last week, but he's been working out at Knology Park, Toronto's Grapefruit League home. Thomas has been working with 64-year-old Walt Hriniak, who has served as the slugger's long-time hitting instructor.

ode to veeck
02-24-2008, 06:14 PM
maybe West and Michelle will pay him a visit in Toronto this summer

ND_Sox_Fan
02-24-2008, 09:15 PM
Here's one for hitting number 550 this year!! :gulp:

ND_Sox_Fan
03-18-2008, 08:25 AM
Update (http://toronto.bluejays.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080316&content_id=2430594&vkey=spt2008news&fext=.jsp&c_id=tor) article on Frank's Spring Training was posted at Bluejays.com.

Great to hear that he is healthy and ready. He had a hit yesterday, by the way - up to 2 on the spring.

MISoxfan
03-21-2008, 06:57 AM
Didn't Frank hold out on going to see Walt until the midpoints of the last two seasons when he was struggling a bit?

Hopefully he won't take 2 months to get going this year. I'd love to see some MVP batting numbers out of him again.

RKMeibalane
04-04-2008, 06:24 PM
Frank was ejected from last night's game against the Yankees, and is 1-9 (.111) to start the season.

Fenway
04-04-2008, 06:32 PM
Frank was ejected from last night's game against the Yankees, and is 1-9 (.111) to start the season.

He had reason to be upset last night...it was ball 4

Jjav829
04-04-2008, 06:32 PM
Frank was ejected from last night's game against the Yankees, and is 1-9 (.111) to start the season.

Yeah, I was watching that. He had a right to be pissed. Two exact pitches, first was called a ball, second a strike.

Fenway
04-04-2008, 06:39 PM
Wakefield just made him look silly bad K with 2 men on

ksimpson14
04-04-2008, 07:42 PM
Weird to see Frank in powder blue. Check out the game right now if you have extra innings

Heffalump
04-04-2008, 08:06 PM
Wakefield just made him look silly bad K with 2 men on

Not to be rude, as you have been around forever and contribute a ton of much appreciated information to this site, but as it seems you are a BoSox fan, I always wondered why you hang around WSI so much?

Daver
04-04-2008, 08:21 PM
Not to be rude, as you have been around forever and contribute a ton of much appreciated information to this site, but as it seems you are a BoSox fan, I always wondered why you hang around WSI so much?

For the same reason that we have Tigers fans, Twins fans, Mariners fans, Cubs fans, etc. posting here, because intelligent baseball discussion with a large number of people can be found here.

Fenway
04-04-2008, 08:25 PM
Frank just got a huge 2 run double in the 7th with 2 outs to put Hogtown in the lead

doublem23
04-04-2008, 08:31 PM
Hogtown?

Ooh, the Jays are wearing their sweet throwbacks, too.

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080405/capt.fba7023e524a445c9c339a4c0fb609a4.red_sox_blue _jays_baseball_ajw102.jpg?x=400&y=296&sig=jfbLnYksRtthmSgaBfVPAA--

Though, I think seeing the Big Hurt trot around in one of those is going to make me cry.

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080405/capt.c2c9a294c1c6410c910e963750efc272.red_sox_blue _jays_baseball_ajw113.jpg?x=268&y=345&sig=4RVJ87NUxILaJaXYkpOMjw--

:whiner:

mccombe_35
04-04-2008, 08:35 PM
Frank just got a huge 2 run double in the 7th with 2 outs to put Hogtown in the lead


taken out for a PR?

he hurt?

DSpivack
04-04-2008, 08:36 PM
taken out for a PR?

he hurt?

He's often taken out for a pinch runner.

mccombe_35
04-04-2008, 08:42 PM
He's often taken out for a pinch runner.

Yeah I know.

but in the 7th in a 2 run game?

just thought somebody might be watching the game & know for sure.

CHISOXFAN13
04-04-2008, 08:43 PM
taken out for a PR?

he hurt?

He's 39, doesn't run well, and his spot in the lineup is not likely to come up again.

Pretty much a no-brainer.

Fenway
04-05-2008, 12:06 AM
Hogtown?

Ooh, the Jays are wearing their sweet throwbacks, too.



:whiner:

Hogtown is Toronto's knickname in Canada

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080405/capt.714ffc0154604172b1133284db636242.red_sox_blue _jays_baseball_ajw119.jpg

doublem23
04-05-2008, 01:30 AM
Hogtown is Toronto's knickname in Canada

I did not know that.

The big guy looks good in powder blue.

TornLabrum
04-05-2008, 05:47 AM
For the same reason that we have Tigers fans, Twins fans, Mariners fans, Cubs fans, etc. posting here, because intelligent baseball discussion with a large number of people can be found here.

And then there are the Brian Anderson discussions....

FarWestChicago
04-05-2008, 06:23 AM
Hogtown is Toronto's knickname in Canada



I did not know that.

Neither did anybody in Canada. :D:

mccoydp
04-05-2008, 10:50 AM
Quick question for you all:

I'm going to my first non-White Sox game on April 26th at Kauffman Stadium...Blue Jays vs. Royals. Conventional wisdom says that it's probably not smart to wear my black Frank Thomas White Sox jersey to the game. Is it cool to get a Frank Thomas Jays name & number tee to wear to the game, or is that out of bounds? I'm going to try to get his autograph on the tee after the game.

Fenway
04-05-2008, 02:26 PM
Neither did anybody in Canada. :D:

HEY west do a google search on hogtown and get back to me.

Frank just blasted one to make it 10-2 Toronto in the 6th. Red Sox look awful.

Scottiehaswheels
04-05-2008, 02:38 PM
Quick question for you all:

I'm going to my first non-White Sox game on April 26th at Kauffman Stadium...Blue Jays vs. Royals. Conventional wisdom says that it's probably not smart to wear my black Frank Thomas White Sox jersey to the game. Is it cool to get a Frank Thomas Jays name & number tee to wear to the game, or is that out of bounds? I'm going to try to get his autograph on the tee after the game.Why is wearing your Sox Thomas jersey a faux paux? I would.

Patrick134
04-05-2008, 02:43 PM
Quick question for you all:

I'm going to my first non-White Sox game on April 26th at Kauffman Stadium...Blue Jays vs. Royals. Conventional wisdom says that it's probably not smart to wear my black Frank Thomas White Sox jersey to the game. Is it cool to get a Frank Thomas Jays name & number tee to wear to the game, or is that out of bounds? I'm going to try to get his autograph on the tee after the game.


Why is wearing a Sox jersey out of bounds ? You afraid Tom Gamboa is out for revenge ?

FarWestChicago
04-05-2008, 03:04 PM
HEY west do a google search on hogtown and get back to me.You do a google search. I'll just ask my neighbors. :smile:

TheCommander
04-05-2008, 03:08 PM
You do a google search. I'll just ask my neighbors. :smile:

Don't you mean neighboUrs,West? :D:

RKMeibalane
04-05-2008, 03:11 PM
:hurt

#514

mccoydp
04-05-2008, 04:05 PM
Why is wearing a Sox jersey out of bounds ? You afraid Tom Gamboa is out for revenge ?

Oh no, I just didn't know if it was "kosher" to wear another team's jersey to a game they're not playing in...haven't done it before.

Jjav829
04-05-2008, 04:35 PM
Oh no, I just didn't know if it was "kosher" to wear another team's jersey to a game they're not playing in...haven't done it before.

In general, I would say, yes, but since you're wearing the jersey of a player who will be playing in the game (albeit a jersey from a former team), I see nothing wrong with that.

If you were going wearing your Cubs Sosa jersey, that would be a little different.

DumpJerry
04-05-2008, 04:54 PM
Quick question for you all:

I'm going to my first non-White Sox game on April 26th at Kauffman Stadium...Blue Jays vs. Royals. Conventional wisdom says that it's probably not smart to wear my black Frank Thomas White Sox jersey to the game. Is it cool to get a Frank Thomas Jays name & number tee to wear to the game, or is that out of bounds? I'm going to try to get his autograph on the tee after the game.
It is not rude to wear it. He came up through the Sox organization. He had his best years with the Sox organization. He is generally identified as a Sox player and will be at his HOF induction ceremony.

Also, you're in Kansas City, not Toronto, so nobody will care among the 34-39 other people in attendance.

This isn't a Carlton Fisk type of situation where Fisk had more playing days ahead of him than behind him when he switched his Sox.

mccoydp
04-05-2008, 05:06 PM
If you were going wearing your Cubs Sosa jersey, that would be a little different.

Naw, I gave that away at a yard sale years ago. :redneck

Thanks to you and Dump for the advice.

DumpJerry
04-05-2008, 05:19 PM
Naw, I gave that away at a yard sale years ago. :redneck

Thanks to you and Dump for the advice.
No prob. Have fun at the game and bring home a Blue Jays' winner (non AL Cent. team) for us!

ND_Sox_Fan
04-05-2008, 11:06 PM
Thomas is now 7 HRs away from Ted Williams and Willie McCovey on the all-time list.

Alex Rodriguez is 5 in front of Frank now, but I don't consider him "next up" on the list.

Some other notable lists to watch this year are doubles, walks and RBIs. He is 53rd on the doubles list with 489 (500 HRs and 500 doubles will be a neat milestone).

He is currently 9th on the walks list with 1629. He'll have to walk 80 times this year to pass Mel Ott for 8th place.

In terms of RBIs, he is 22nd with 1678. Cal Ripken is next with 1695. Frank could jump up to 18th this year by passing Honus Wagner who had 1732. The only active player ahead of Frank is Griffey who has 1703.

Oh - and 87 more hits to 2500.

Nellie_Fox
04-05-2008, 11:43 PM
Today on XM MLB Home Plate, they referred to Frank as The Big Hurt, but then added that in Toronto they are now calling him "Frank the Tank." :o:

FarWestChicago
04-06-2008, 06:37 AM
Today on XM MLB Home Plate, they referred to Frank as The Big Hurt, but then added that in Toronto they are now calling him "Frank the Tank." :o:The latter is true. I caught some of the game Friday night, including his smoked double that broke the game open, and there were indeed "Frank the Tank" signs in the stands. :dunno:

Frontman
04-06-2008, 07:51 AM
Frank the Tank is going to have The Big Hurt on his HoF plaque.:cool:

:hawk
"I knew I'd find a way into the Hall. MERCY!"

And yes, Frank will finish behind A-Rod in home runs on the all time list. That's just frightening.

fusillirob1983
04-06-2008, 11:05 AM
And yes, Frank will finish behind A-Rod in home runs on the all time list. That's just frightening.

Who won't finish behind A-Rod on the all time HR list?

Fenway
04-06-2008, 11:46 AM
Who won't finish behind A-Rod on the all time HR list?

We can only hope

http://www.funnyhub.com/pictures/img/barry-bonds-in-drag.jpg

Frontman
04-06-2008, 11:55 AM
We can only hope

http://www.funnyhub.com/pictures/img/barry-bonds-in-drag.jpg

Wait, you're saying you'd rather have Bonds be the Home Run King instead of A-rod, or am I mis-understanding you?

Fenway
04-06-2008, 12:04 PM
Wait, you're saying you'd rather have Bonds be the Home Run King instead of A-rod, or am I mis-understanding you?

I thought I made it clear I want A-Rod to catch Bonds.

Frontman
04-06-2008, 12:07 PM
I thought I made it clear I want A-Rod to catch Bonds.

That's what I thought; but in reading it, its seemed like in answer to the question "Will there be anyone who won't" you had Bonds' photo saying "we can only hope." It seemed like it was a hope Bonds would remain on top of the list.

Thanks for clearing it up though.

Fenway
04-06-2008, 12:10 PM
That's what I thought; but in reading it, its seemed like in answer to the question "Will there be anyone who won't" you had Bonds' photo saying "we can only hope." It seemed like it was a hope Bonds would remain on top of the list.

Thanks for clearing it up though.

I will never forget booing him 2 years ago at ATT Park and having fans wanting to kill me.

Frontman
04-06-2008, 12:12 PM
I will never forget booing him 2 years ago at ATT Park and having fans wanting to kill me.

You would of died believing in a noble cause.......

Sockinchisox
04-06-2008, 01:50 PM
Frank just hit a slam off of Delcarmen to put the Jays on top 6-2.

ND_Sox_Fan
04-06-2008, 01:51 PM
# 515 - a Grand Slam!

Fenway
04-06-2008, 01:51 PM
Big Frank says he is watching video this year and learned something about Boston pitching


He just hit a grand slam :whiner:

hawkjt
04-06-2008, 07:03 PM
Manny went up the wall to rob Frank in his first at bat...then the second at bat he hits the first pitch of Carmen for a grand slam... sweet swinging Frank Thomas just keeps keeping on...way to go Frank, you will always be my guy.

CLR01
04-08-2008, 08:56 PM
Frank 2 run shot to center to tie the game at 8 against Oakland. :bandance:

ND_Sox_Fan
04-08-2008, 08:56 PM
Frank 2 run shot to center to tie the game at 8 against Oakland. :bandance:

Yet another big, clutch hit to tie the game or put them ahead.

SOXfnNlansing
04-08-2008, 09:12 PM
Big Frank is the man:bandance:

Jjav829
04-08-2008, 09:21 PM
Frank 2 run shot to center to tie the game at 8 against Oakland. :bandance:

And after that, Ryan Sweeney triples to give Oakland the lead right back.

LoveYourSuit
04-08-2008, 10:54 PM
I miss Frank .... him and Thome will hit 600 IMO.

RockyMtnSoxFan
04-09-2008, 11:20 AM
I hope not, on the latter part. I know I'm in the minority around here, but I don't think Thome is half the hitter that Frank is. In his prime, Frank was one of the most all-around dominant hitters ever to play the game. He was multi-dimensional, hitting line drives and having a very discerning eye. Thome is just a big slugger like McGwire, and a former Indian to boot.

itsnotrequired
04-09-2008, 11:34 AM
I hope not, on the latter part. I know I'm in the minority around here, but I don't think Thome is half the hitter that Frank is. In his prime, Frank was one of the most all-around dominant hitters ever to play the game. He was multi-dimensional, hitting line drives and having a very discerning eye. Thome is just a big slugger like McGwire, and a former Indian to boot.

I don't think you are in the minority...

Droso5
04-09-2008, 01:06 PM
I agree. The destinction between the two is obvious. Thome is a slugger that can draw some walks and hit for a decent average. Yet, he will strike out alot and can be weak against eft handed pitchers. Thomas was a pure hitter. High average, high walks, decent homerun totals, doubles, opp. field etc etc. Both are forces to be reckoned with, but they both go about it in different ways. and yes, Thome was an ex-Indian and he shall bear that scarlet letter for the rest of his days!:angry:

LoveYourSuit
04-09-2008, 01:12 PM
I hope not, on the latter part. I know I'm in the minority around here, but I don't think Thome is half the hitter that Frank is. In his prime, Frank was one of the most all-around dominant hitters ever to play the game. He was multi-dimensional, hitting line drives and having a very discerning eye. Thome is just a big slugger like McGwire, and a former Indian to boot.


I want Thome to hit 600. Why not? He's been a model citizen for this game.


The arguement is not about who was or is a better hitter between him and Frank. I want both to join the 600 Club and wear Sox hats to Cooperstown.

MUsoxfan
04-09-2008, 01:20 PM
I want Thome to hit 600. Why not? He's been a model citizen for this game.


The arguement is not about who was or is a better hitter between him and Frank. I want both to join the 600 Club and wear Sox hats to Cooperstown.


Agreed. There's no reason to not want both of them to crack 600

hawkjt
04-09-2008, 01:22 PM
Frank is arguably in the top 5 righthanded hitters in MLB history...in my book.

He is locked in right now. Seeing him hit a home to right center yesterday is all you gotta know..severe damage ahead.

ND_Sox_Fan
04-09-2008, 02:46 PM
Seeing him hit a home to right center yesterday is all you gotta know..severe damage ahead.

It was vintage mid-1990s Frank. I can't get enough of watching the replay because it brings back so many memories of seeing him hammer a pitch into right-center.

The three home runs have been to center, left-center, and right-center. He is clearly focused on driving balls from gap-to-gap, and that is fun to watch.

DSpivack
04-09-2008, 05:07 PM
I want Thome to hit 600. Why not? He's been a model citizen for this game.


The arguement is not about who was or is a better hitter between him and Frank. I want both to join the 600 Club and wear Sox hats to Cooperstown.

I love both of them, but there is no way Thome goes into the Hall as a White Sox.

RKMeibalane
05-21-2008, 10:16 AM
Frank Thomas hit his third home run in two games last night, in Oakland's 3-2 loss to Tampa Bay. Although Frank hasn't exactly turned back the clock since his return to the West Coast, his numbers (.293/3/14/.400/.480) are solid, and have helped the A's stay in the race. Ironically, he would be leading the Blue Jays in home runs (tied with Matt Stairs) and RBIs were he still playing there.

Toronto made a mistake signing an aging player to a large contract. Frank isn't worth the money they agreed to pay him, but it's obvious that Thomas can still play this game better than most. The Blue Jays are getting what they ****ing deserve. The only reason they aren't in last place is because the Yankees have managed to play even worse, but that should change now that they have their best player back.

VeeckAsInWreck
05-21-2008, 10:39 AM
I love both of them, but there is no way Thome goes into the Hall as a White Sox.

Yeah! We all know he's going in as a Phillie!

Seriously though, he is totally going in as an Indian. Unless he wins a World Series with the Sox and has a memorable Carlton Fisk-type moment with them.

ondafarm
05-21-2008, 12:37 PM
Yeah! We all know he's going in as a Phillie!

Seriously though, he is totally going in as an Indian. Unless he wins a World Series with the Sox and has a memorable Carlton Fisk-type moment with them.


I wonder if the reception he got in Cleveland when he returned the first time (I'm recalling the "Thometraitor" signs and considerable booing) may have changed his mind.

DSpivack
05-21-2008, 12:39 PM
I wonder if the reception he got in Cleveland when he returned the first time (I'm recalling the "Thometraitor" signs and considerable booing) may have changed his mind.

Isn't it up to MLB and not him?

soxfan13
05-21-2008, 12:48 PM
Isn't it up to MLB and not him?

Yes the players has input now and thats it. MLB makes the final decision. Even if Thome wins a World Series with the White Sox. Jim is still going into the hall with a Indians cap.

MisterB
05-21-2008, 04:41 PM
Isn't it up to MLB and not him?

Yes the players has input now and thats it. MLB makes the final decision. Even if Thome wins a World Series with the White Sox. Jim is still going into the hall with a Indians cap.

Correction: the decision is made by the Hall of Fame, which is a private non-profit organization. Obviously, due to its nature, it is intimately linked to MLB, but they are not one and the same.

ND_Sox_Fan
05-21-2008, 09:18 PM
Given his solid last couple of games, Frank has made a couple of moves on the all-time lists ... here are the updates:

HR - 18th with 519 ... now 2 away from Williams and McCovey for 16th

RBIs - 21st with 1699 ... he passed Ripken this week and is 3 shy of Reggie Jackson for 20th

Doubles - 51st with 492 ... passed Manush and next up are Buckner, Kaline, and Rice who are tied for 48th with 498

ondafarm
05-21-2008, 10:24 PM
Correction: the decision is made by the Hall of Fame, which is a private non-profit organization. Obviously, due to its nature, it is intimately linked to MLB, but they are not one and the same.

That's odd because Carlton Fisk played more games with the White Sox than Red Sox and yet he's in with a B on his cap.

DSpivack
05-21-2008, 10:28 PM
That's odd because Carlton Fisk played more games with the White Sox than Red Sox and yet he's in with a B on his cap.

True, but he started his career and played 10? seasons with Boston. Also, I believe back then it was up to the player, then Wade Boggs made them change that.

ondafarm
05-21-2008, 10:46 PM
True, but he started his career and played 10? seasons with Boston. Also, I believe back then it was up to the player, then Wade Boggs made them change that.

Only six of his 100 games played season were Red. Nine were White.

MisterB
05-21-2008, 10:51 PM
The "Wade Boggs Rule" went into effect in 2001, the year after Fisk was inducted. So it was Pudge's decision to wear the B in the Hall.

Nellie_Fox
05-22-2008, 12:34 AM
They would have let Fisk wear the B anyway. Read their statement on their website. They say they take into consideration the player's wishes, but give the most consideration to which team he is most identified with. I think in Fisk's case, both considerations would be Boston.

gobears1987
05-22-2008, 01:01 AM
Yeah! We all know he's going in as a Phillie!

Seriously though, he is totally going in as an Indian. Unless he wins a World Series with the Sox and has a memorable Carlton Fisk-type moment with them.
I can't believe the ****ing Indians let Garko wear #25. We know the Sox will never let anyone else ever wear #35.

gobears1987
05-22-2008, 01:04 AM
Only six of his 100 games played season were Red. Nine were White.
Fisk had a falling out with Sox management and chose to go in with a B on his cap. A few years later he made up with the Sox and they of course gave him his statue.

VeeckAsInWreck
05-22-2008, 10:14 AM
I can't believe the ****ing Indians let Garko wear #25. We know the Sox will never let anyone else ever wear #35.

Funny you mention that because I was thinking about that too. I noticed Garko wearing #25 and was surprised that they would allow it. I understand Sizemore wearing Manny's old #24, let's face it Manny is more associated with the Sawx now. But no one is ever going to wear #35 again for the Sox.

kitekrazy
05-23-2008, 10:37 AM
They would have let Fisk wear the B anyway. Read their statement on their website. They say they take into consideration the player's wishes, but give the most consideration to which team he is most identified with. I think in Fisk's case, both considerations would be Boston.

I had no problem with it. Some of baseball's post season memories involved him with the Red Sox.

Eddo144
05-23-2008, 10:47 AM
I had no problem with it. Some of baseball's post season memories involved him with the Red Sox.
Exactly. How famous is the home run in the World Series against the Big Red Machine where he's waving at the ball to stay fair? It's one of those lasting images, like Kirk Gibson's home run in the 1988 Series or Willie Mays's catch in the 1954 Series.

Like it or not, outside of Chicago, Fisk is primarily identified with the Red Sox.

TDog
05-23-2008, 03:27 PM
Fisk had a falling out with Sox management and chose to go in with a B on his cap. A few years later he made up with the Sox and they of course gave him his statue.

Fisk had a falling out with Red Sox management before he came to the White Sox as a free agent. He grew up a Red Sox fan in New England. Major League Baseball had Fisk wearing a Red Sox cap, regardless, because to most baseball fans he is remembered for his part in the 1975 World Series.

Fisk's Hall of Fame plaque says he played for the White Sox. I don't see what the big deal is.

RKMeibalane
05-23-2008, 09:52 PM
:hurt

#520

sox1970
05-27-2008, 09:38 AM
Frank is 40 today.

:shrug:

voodoochile
05-27-2008, 09:48 AM
:happybday, :hurt

Go on and have your self a great day!

:)

fram40
05-27-2008, 03:27 PM
Happy 40th Birthday to the greatest White Sox player.

A salute to the Big Hurt in ESPN the Mag

http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3413940

RockyMtnSoxFan
05-28-2008, 05:40 PM
Anybody have an update on Frank's status? He apparently suffered a mild strain of his right quad while running out a double yesterday. The mlb.com preview doesn't say anything about it, but espn.com mentions that he might not be in the lineup.

I hope this is a minor injury, and he can get back to hitting line drives all over the place. His average has been climbing for several weeks now, and he's starting to look like his old self. I still hope to see his career OPS finish over 1.000.

Stoky44
05-29-2008, 08:48 AM
Anybody have an update on Frank's status? He apparently suffered a mild strain of his right quad while running out a double yesterday. The mlb.com preview doesn't say anything about it, but espn.com mentions that he might not be in the lineup.

I hope this is a minor injury, and he can get back to hitting line drives all over the place. His average has been climbing for several weeks now, and he's starting to look like his old self. I still hope to see his career OPS finish over 1.000.

He is going to the DL. Its been bothering him for 2 weeks, and not gotten any better.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/28/SPLD10URTP.DTL

balke
05-29-2008, 08:57 AM
Wow, 2 games out of 1st place with two players down to injury. Wouldn't be a bad team to try and trade with. There's been rumors swirling of Harden going to the Yanks.