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veeter
02-12-2008, 01:03 PM
Break out- Asdrubal Cabrera 2B Cleveland

Drop off- Jeremy Bonderman P Tigers

Taliesinrk
02-12-2008, 01:09 PM
Our opinions?

Don't know enough about the CLE guy, but I think/hope Bonderman's a good call. You could throw Rogers in there too.

veeter
02-12-2008, 01:16 PM
Our opinions?

Don't know enough about the CLE guy, but I think/hope Bonderman's a good call. You could throw Rogers in there too.Sorry. Opinions/ picks.

kraut83
02-12-2008, 01:17 PM
I think Alex Gordon is really going to come into his own this year.

I-Roid will continue his decline.

Rockabilly
02-12-2008, 01:19 PM
Breakout- Delmon Young

Drop Off- Travis Hafner

The Milkman
02-12-2008, 01:23 PM
Breakout- Delmon Young

Drop Off- Travis Hafner

Didn't Hafner just have a drop off???

CHIsoxNation
02-12-2008, 01:24 PM
Break out- Delmon Young (he had a good year last year but I think he's just getting started)

Drop off- Ordonez (I don't see him putting up those MVP type numbers again)

JermaineDye05
02-12-2008, 01:34 PM
call me an optimist and a biased sox fan, but my breakout player is Carlos Quentin.

Drop off for me is Todd Jones.

pmck003
02-12-2008, 01:47 PM
Breakout - Joe Mauer (power)

Decline - Ivan Rod. - bigtime

chisox117
02-12-2008, 01:49 PM
Breakout: Ryan Garko

Drop-off: Joe Nathan

kjhanson
02-12-2008, 01:58 PM
Break out- Asdrubal Cabrera 2B Cleveland

Drop off- Jeremy Bonderman P Tigers

In order to have a meaningful drop-off, don't you have to be good in the first place? If so, pick someone new. Jeremy "4.78 career ERA" Bonderman has been an above average pitcher one year in his career. He's one of the most over-rated players in baseball.

Taliesinrk
02-12-2008, 02:12 PM
call me an optimist and a biased sox fan, but my breakout player is Carlos Quentin.

Drop off for me is Todd Jones.

Wow.. you guys have some good picks in here. Todd Jones is awful already. He's definitely fallen off (assuming he was ever on). While the amount of saves he's converted has been nice, the guy was garbage last year.. it dumbfounded me how he continued to have "success".

JermaineDye05
02-12-2008, 02:15 PM
Wow.. you guys have some good picks in here. Todd Jones is awful already. He's definitely fallen off (assuming he was ever on). While the amount of saves he's converted has been nice, the guy was garbage last year.. it dumbfounded me how he continued to have "success".

I know he was garbage last year, however he still managed to get 38 saves. The drop off for him is his saves. I'll be surprised if he makes it to 20 before Detroit goes down another route.

Vestigio
02-12-2008, 02:30 PM
Breakout: Luke Hochevar
Drop Off: Fausto Carmona

Taliesinrk
02-12-2008, 02:39 PM
I know he was garbage last year, however he still managed to get 38 saves. The drop off for him is his saves. I'll be surprised if he makes it to 20 before Detroit goes down another route.

I agree.. it just drives me crazy that he was able to be that "successful" last year while being so bad.

sullythered
02-12-2008, 02:57 PM
Break out- Asdrubal Cabrera 2B Cleveland

Drop off- Jeremy Bonderman P Tigers
I'm right there with you on Cabrera, but I don't know how you "drop off" from a 5.01 ERA. Bonderman sucks. I say Sheffield drops off to the point that he gets only about 150 ABs in '08.

veeter
02-12-2008, 03:23 PM
In order to have a meaningful drop-off, don't you have to be good in the first place? If so, pick someone new. Jeremy "4.78 career ERA" Bonderman has been an above average pitcher one year in his career. He's one of the most over-rated players in baseball.With limited space for the thread title, it was difficult. But the gist is, a player that will have a good year, and a player that will have a bad year. Not necessarily a "drop off".

cws05champ
02-12-2008, 03:24 PM
Breakout: Ryan Garko With an honerable mention to Alex Gordon

Drop off: Joe Borowski ( I know he had a 5+ ERA last year...but I'm talking getting pulled as a closer bad)

kjhanson
02-12-2008, 03:28 PM
With limited space for the thread title, it was difficult. But the gist is, a player that will have a good year, and a player that will have a bad year. Not necessarily a "drop off".

I'm not bashing on you. It just gave me another excuse to rip on Bonderman, much like the Sox, who are 9-5 career against him :cool:

kraut83
02-12-2008, 03:38 PM
I'm right there with you on Cabrera, but I don't know how you "drop off" from a 5.01 ERA. Bonderman sucks. I say Sheffield drops off to the point that he gets only about 150 ABs in '08.

Bonderman had the habit of having a horrible first inning last year. Maybe the dropoff will be matching that in the second? :dunno:

btrain929
02-12-2008, 03:42 PM
Bonderman had the habit of having a horrible first inning last year. Maybe the dropoff will be matching that in the second? :dunno:

Breakout: Alex Gordon, Billy Buckner, Zach Greinke, Danny Richar, Gavin Floyd.

Dropoff: Fausto Carmona, Rafael Betancourt, Rafael Perez, Gil Meche, Curtis Granderson, Magglio Ordonez.

sircaffey1
02-12-2008, 04:07 PM
Breakout: Bonderman (15+ W, 3.75 ERA, 200K), Jhonny Peralta (30 HR, .290 AVE)

Drop Off: Carmona and Maggs, but they still will put in all-star performances

Bounce Back: Hafner, and big time (40 HR, .300 AVE, 1.000 OPS)

SOX:

Breakout: Fields (30 HR, .270 AVE)

Drop off: Cabrera (.290 AVE, .330 OBP, sub .700 OPS), Buehrle (13 W, 4.00 ERA)

Bounce Back: Konerko (35 HR, .290 AVE)

sircaffey1
02-12-2008, 04:10 PM
Bonderman's first half was awesome. He fell apart in the second both mentally and physically. If he's back healthy, I think he's in line for a big year.

SoxNation05
02-12-2008, 04:33 PM
Breakout: Bonderman, Scott Baker, Garko, Young and Brenden Harris
Dropoff: Carmona, Betancourt, Sheffield,

rowand33
02-12-2008, 06:36 PM
breakout: Delmon Young, who will begin his reign of terror in the AL Central

drop off: Carmona.

Jjav829
02-12-2008, 10:16 PM
Fausto is damn good. :yup:

And yeah, Bonderman isn't really going to "drop-off." He had a 5 ERA with 11 wins last year. If anything, this is the year he breaks out. He has the talent to be a good pitcher and he's still only 25 years old.

oeo
02-12-2008, 11:20 PM
Fausto is damn good. :yup:

And yeah, Bonderman isn't really going to "drop-off." He had a 5 ERA with 11 wins last year. If anything, this is the year he breaks out. He has the talent to be a good pitcher and he's still only 25 years old.

This is the year, though, that I say if he doesn't 'break out,' he's just one of those potentially good pitchers that never came about. Sure, he's only 25, but he's been in the big leagues for 5 years now (6 after this year). I understand he hasn't entered his 'prime years,' but he also started earlier than most. A bad year this year = bust in my eyes.

pjchisox13
02-12-2008, 11:39 PM
Breakout: Alex Gordon becomes a household name

Dropoff: Maggs, still good numbers but not going to bat .360 again

kaufsox
02-13-2008, 12:58 AM
breakout: going with bias and gut, Danks

drop off: Borowski. I know his era was terrible, but I just don't see him getting close to the amount of saves in 08 that he had in 07, 45 or something? nope!

doublem23
02-13-2008, 03:10 AM
Borowski is an easy drop-off... I know his ERA was ugly last year, but he still racked up 40+ saves. One of the many reasons I believe the Tribe will be looking up at the Sox in October.

Bucky F. Dent
02-13-2008, 08:29 AM
Breakout - Carlos Quentin:praying:

Drop Off - Rafael Betancourt

eastchicagosoxfan
02-13-2008, 09:06 AM
Drop off Dontrele Willis

Break out Garko from the Tribe

the1tab
02-13-2008, 09:06 AM
Breakout: Alex Gordon, Delmon Young, Brendan Harris, Jhonny Peralta, Zack Greinke

Dropoff: Grady Sizemore, Gary Sheffield, Magglio Ordonez, Joe Nathan

I'm not saying that Nathan's stuff is diminished to a great extent, but with Silva & Johan leaving Minneapolis his save opportunities will be down.

Also, I'm interested to see what getting paid does for Sizemore's life in the Mistake by the Lake, and what the combination of Miguel Cabrera coming to town and Curtis Granderson getting paid does to the numbers of Maggs and Sheff.

If I might offer one other category:

Comeback Players: Travis Hafner & Francisco Liriano

the1tab
02-13-2008, 09:11 AM
Also put Jose Guillen in KC on the dropoff list... both because of possible suspension and because he's off the juice.