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MCHSoxFan
02-06-2008, 03:39 PM
Or a very, VERY solid 'pen.

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080205&content_id=2365008&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws

spawn
02-06-2008, 03:41 PM
Not exactly an objective source...

MCHSoxFan
02-06-2008, 03:41 PM
Not exactly an objective source...

Still, I thought people would like to look at the artice.

WhiteSox5187
02-06-2008, 03:52 PM
DON'T START THIS!! I still have nightmares about the "Best Bullpen" thread started in April of '07...

sox1970
02-06-2008, 04:09 PM
I thought this was started tongue in cheek.

gogosox16
02-06-2008, 04:10 PM
DON'T START THIS!! I still have nightmares about the "Best Bullpen" thread started in April of '07...
Don't worry, I will start a best Bullpen thread in April of 08' after the Sox bullpen has a good stretch of 3 games doing well.

Foulke You
02-06-2008, 04:13 PM
DON'T START THIS!! I still have nightmares about the "Best Bullpen" thread started in April of '07...
Well, the Sox bullpen was actually pretty decent in April. Even Aardsma! :D: Could you imagine how bad our bullpen #s would have been in '07 if they didn't have a good April? We probably would have set some MLB bullpen futility records.

gogosox16
02-06-2008, 04:15 PM
Well, the Sox bullpen was actually pretty decent in April. Even Aardsma! :D: Could you imagine how bad our bullpen #s would have been in '07 if they didn't have a good April? We probably would have set some MLB bullpen futility records.
That's pretty scary because we did have a bullpen doing well until Mid May and then it turned out horrible.

cws05champ
02-06-2008, 04:22 PM
The Best Bullpen of ALL TIME!!!!!

gobears1987
02-06-2008, 04:38 PM
DON'T START THIS!! I still have nightmares about the "Best Bullpen" thread started in April of '07...
Please don't remind me.

chisoxmike
02-06-2008, 04:47 PM
:rolleyes:

There was a thread like this last year. Let's wait until June or something before we even call this bullpen good.

munchman33
02-06-2008, 05:25 PM
Unless we do something about the starting pitching, that pen will be completely burned out by July anyway.

MarySwiss
02-06-2008, 05:38 PM
Please don't remind me.

DON'T REMIND YOU???? I still have nightmares remembering all those Sunday TBGRs I wrote, usually after a miserable bullpen meltdown. :angry:

TDog
02-06-2008, 05:39 PM
Not exactly an objective source...

Actually, it was objective sources who suggested the Sox had one of the league's best bullpen's late last April. It was objective sources who suggested the 2003 White Sox had a great bullpen because of the addition of Rick White -- whose ERA topped 6 before he was traded late in the season.

Two seasons ago, Cleveland had a horrendous bullpen, in some ways as bad as the Sox bullpen of 2007. One of the things the Indians did to shore up their pen was to move an abysmal closer into the starting rotation, where he became a big winner.

When 2008 is nearly over (maybe totally over, considering Brad Lidge was considered a solid closer until the 2005 postseason), you will know if the Sox have a solid 2008 bullpen.

I find most people who talk about pitching fall into two categories. There are those that don't know enough about baseball to get it right. Then there are those who know a lot about baseball, but often get it wrong.

gobears1987
02-06-2008, 06:09 PM
DON'T REMIND YOU???? I still have nightmares remembering all those Sunday TBGRs I wrote, usually after a miserable bullpen meltdown. :angry:Never volunteer for Sunday TBGRs. Sundays do not mesh well with the Sox.

russ99
02-06-2008, 08:00 PM
Unless we do something about the starting pitching, that pen will be completely burned out by July anyway.

How do you figure??

Buehrle is good for 7-9 a start
Vazquez at least or 6-7 a start
Danks - early on 6-7
Contereras - 5-8 depending on how he bounces back
Floyd - anywhere from 4-6

With all the early off days the Sox can afford to let a starter go long or bring in a guy to mop up if a starter has a bad day.

Plus it looks like the Sox will go with 11 pitchers, so those 6 relievers will all need game-situation work regardless of the score.

chisox77
02-06-2008, 08:15 PM
I would feel great if the White Sox can add a back of the rotation starter before the season begins (or at least another pitcher who can be inserted as a spot starter or long/middle reliever).

Then after about 80+ games, we can boast about a solid bullpen.


:cool:

areilly
02-06-2008, 08:21 PM
Or a very, VERY solid 'pen.


The White Sox could have four guys hit 40 HR this year.

The White Sox could win the ALC with ease.

The White Sox could lose 100 games.


Seriously, right now, what do we know? That some debatable moves were made and the Sox have the best bullpen on the South Side of Chicago. The End.

spiffie
02-06-2008, 08:27 PM
How do you figure??

Buehrle is good for 7-9 a start
Vazquez at least or 6-7 a start
Danks - early on 6-7
Contereras - 5-8 depending on how he bounces back
Floyd - anywhere from 4-6

With all the early off days the Sox can afford to let a starter go long or bring in a guy to mop up if a starter has a bad day.

Plus it looks like the Sox will go with 11 pitchers, so those 6 relievers will all need game-situation work regardless of the score.
Last year our pitchers averaged per start:
Buehrle - 6.7 innings
Vazquez - 6.77 innings
Contreras - 6.3 innings
Danks - 5.35 innings
Floyd - 5.7 innings

SoxNation05
02-06-2008, 08:35 PM
Last year our pitchers averaged per start:
Buehrle - 6.7 innings
Vazquez - 6.77 innings
Contreras - 6.3 innings
Danks - 5.35 innings
Floyd - 5.7 innings
Good research. I cannot believe Contreras is that high.

BRDSR
02-07-2008, 04:50 PM
Good research. I cannot believe Contreras is that high.

Yeah...and you can really call it 6.5 or 6.6 if you just take out his one-inning performance on opening day. I knew Buerhle should have started.

Seriously, this thread title should read: "White Sox Could Have The Best Bullpen (In Chicago)" That would probably be true. I don't expect our bullpen to be the same kind of liability it was last season, and it could crack the top 10 in the MLB, but it'll be lucky to be second best in the AL Central.

Jerko
02-07-2008, 04:58 PM
I'd like another starter as well, as chisox77 said. If we only have 3 guys pitching into the 6th inning regularly, the LRLRLRLRLRLR stuff will wear that bullpen down by mid-June. Either that or somebody is going to have to be lights-out in the long relief role.

gogosox16
02-07-2008, 05:31 PM
The more I have thought about this thread the more it came to make sense to me. Any team can end up having the best bullpen, but it's all talk.