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Fenway
01-28-2008, 11:20 AM
Here is the latest installment from Team Roger which cries "he didn't cheat"

http://www.rogerclemensreport.com/

An Analysis of the Career of Roger Clemens

By Hendricks Sports Management, LP | Randal A. Hendricks | Stephen L. Mann | Bret R. Larson-Hendricks


This report will evaluate the career of Roger Clemens, one of the most successful pitchers in major league history. It will examine both the quality and quantity of his pitching over the course of his 24-year career. As of the 2007 season, Clemens was one of the twenty-nine active major league players who were at least 40 years old. Of those twenty-nine, eighteen were pitchers, and twelve of those were starting pitchers.
-->>Click here for report (http://www.rogerclemensreport.com/reports/ClemensReport.pdf)

:rolleyes:

voodoochile
01-28-2008, 11:26 AM
What the hell does this prove? Hell for all we know Johnson, Schilling and Ryan were all juicing too.

Fenway
01-28-2008, 11:32 AM
What the hell does this prove? Hell for all we know Johnson, Schilling and Ryan were all juicing too.

Somehow this reports reminds me of the Stockbridge Police Department trying to prove Arlo Guthrie was guilty of littering :tongue:

And they was using up all kinds of
cop equipment that they had hanging around the police officer's station.
They was taking plaster tire tracks, foot prints, dog smelling prints, and
they took twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy photographs with circles
and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each
one was to be used as evidence against us. Took pictures of the approach,
the getaway, the northwest corner the southwest corner and that's not to
mention the aerial photography.

http://www.arlo.net/resources/lyrics/alices.shtml

jackbrohamer
01-28-2008, 11:36 AM
Oh now I see. Clemens is the only pitcher in the history of MLB to be able to "adjust" to the extent that he did late in his career.

soxfanatlanta
01-28-2008, 11:58 AM
Somehow this reports reminds me of the Stockbridge Police Department trying to prove Arlo Guthrie was guilty of littering :tongue:

http://www.arlo.net/resources/lyrics/alices.shtml

A most excellent sub reference! :thumbsup:

ode to veeck
01-28-2008, 01:39 PM
Roger The Truth Dodger takes us for a spin

Steelrod
01-28-2008, 02:07 PM
Roger,
Fess up and it will all go away! The more you skirt, the more you look like McGwire, Sosa, Palmiero, etc...

Fenway
01-28-2008, 02:25 PM
Roger,
Fess up and it will all go away! The more you skirt, the more you look like McGwire, Sosa, Palmiero, etc...

I am convinced that Roger starting using sometime in the 1996 season. Suddenly he jumped from 89-91 to 95-98 on the gun. At the time we just thought he was busting his gut as he would be a free agent.

In any event the pitcher in Toronto in 97-98 was not the same person as the one who pitched at Fenway in 93-96.

Mike Lupica just keeps unloading on Roger

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2008/01/27/2008-01-27_congressional_hearing_better_have_juice.html

It was supposed to be this weekend when Clemens sat down with the committee and told his story under oath. Except now that sitdown has been pushed back again, to Feb. 5. That is eight days before Clemens is supposed to sit in an open hearing room and answer questions from Rep. Tom Davis and Rep. Henry Waxman and them.

If that happens, if Clemens ever actually puts his hand on the Bible and starts talking, I will be pleasantly surprised. Just because I've never expected it to happen. As one baseball executive said this week, when it was announced that Clemens' trip to Washington had been pushed back, "It gives him a little more time to reconsider making what I consider to be a huge mistake."

FedEx227
01-28-2008, 10:41 PM
Oh this is getting GRILLED on my show tomorrow. There is so many statistical errors in this it's hilarious. There is no way a professional should need to be corrected by a 20-year old, no way AT all.

He tries to confuse people and sound smart but ends up using the wrong stats. ERA+ would be a perfect example for him but he uses ERA Margin, which I've never seen anyone use. Then he clearly doesn't look at his own evidence which shows Clemens defied Johnson, Ryan, Maddux, Pedro and Glavine in being the only 90s dominant pitcher to get progressively better as he got older while the rest all had a downward swing relative to their respective leagues.

Fenway
01-29-2008, 01:49 AM
I burst out laughing reading this tripe.

I am in the camp of those that want to see Roger put his hand on the Bible...


I don't think we will see that happen.

Nellie_Fox
01-29-2008, 11:12 AM
I burst out laughing reading this tripe.

I am in the camp of those that want to see Roger put his hand on the Bible...


I don't think we will see that happen.We will if they subpoena his sorry butt. Then he has to show up and either answer the questions or take the 5th.

Oblong
01-29-2008, 02:10 PM
I am convinced that Roger starting using sometime in the 1996 season. Suddenly he jumped from 89-91 to 95-98 on the gun. At the time we just thought he was busting his gut as he would be a free agent.

In any event the pitcher in Toronto in 97-98 was not the same person as the one who pitched at Fenway in 93-96.



Has Duquette weigned in on any of this?

Fenway
01-29-2008, 05:40 PM
Has Duquette weigned in on any of this?
All Duquette has said in the past month was that based on what we saw we made Roger an offer that we thought was fair. He has hinted that he suspected Jose was giving players advice on steroids when he was a Red Sox. I think Jose had an impact on Mo Vaughn.

Look we can't prove Roger did and he can't prove he didn't but this report he released doesn't help his case one iota. He is aso dancing with Congress instead of just giving them what they ask for.

Fenway
02-11-2008, 09:54 AM
On Sunday the NY Times published a stinging response to 'The Roger Clemens Report'

Report Backing Clemens Chooses Its Facts Carefully (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/10/sports/baseball/10score.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=clemens+report&st=nyt&oref=slogin)

Team Roger then cries to the Daily News today


Team Rocket rips into Wharton stats study (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2008/02/11/2008-02-11_team_roger_clemens_rips_into_wharton_sta.html)
Hendricks Sports Management issued a rebuttal to Sunday's Times article in which four Wharton professors disputed the value of the 45-page, 18,000-word statistical report that Roger Clemens' agents released last month.