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JUribe1989
01-26-2008, 06:23 PM
Simple, what does everybody think?

I'm thinking 80-82 which I have no problem with. I just hope it's entertaining because we all know 2007 wasn't. I'm seeing a very 2004-like season without the incredible amount of home runs.

Best Average: O-Cab
Best ERA: Buehrle
Most Home Runs: Thome

thomas35forever
01-26-2008, 06:35 PM
At this point, I'd say 78-84. I'm not convinced we can make a playoff push with one less starter and the bullpen remains a mystery. The lineup has about a 50-50 chance of succeeding.

Soxfest
01-26-2008, 06:39 PM
81-81 and the Wildcard team comes from the AL Central again with over 91 wins.

WhiteSoxJunkie
01-26-2008, 06:41 PM
79-83. But there's still time for Kenny to make a move.

Chrisaway
01-26-2008, 06:42 PM
161-1

sullythered
01-26-2008, 06:42 PM
What the hell: 92-70. I'm pretty excited about this team. Call me Pollyanna if you must, but I have a way better feeling right now than I did last offseason.

sircaffey1
01-26-2008, 06:46 PM
With every team in the division looking like it's going to be improved unless Santana or Nathan is traded, it'll be tough to put up a high number of wins.

.500 81-81 with a ceiling of 90 wins.

Corlose 15
01-26-2008, 06:47 PM
Good grief people, let's be a little bit more pessimistic shall we?:cool:

The two biggest issues last season were the lineup and the bullpen. KW has aptly addressed both of those issues.

I'll moderately say 86-76 but it would not shock me if the Sox give the Tigers and Indians a real ***** of a time and make the playoffs.

oeo
01-26-2008, 06:51 PM
I've made these predictions the last two years, and both seasons were disappointing. I'm staying out, although I will say I think they're going to be above .500.

I'm pretty excited about this team.

Ditto. I'm pumped to see these guys play.

peeonwrigley
01-26-2008, 06:57 PM
I'll say 81 wins right now; hoping to adjust total if Kenny acquires another starter.

munchman33
01-26-2008, 07:00 PM
I'm gonna go ahead and not post in this thread any further.

doublem23
01-26-2008, 07:02 PM
I'm going to hold off on my "official" prediction until I watch the Sox play a few games in Arizona. Right now, I'll say 90 wins and a serious play at the A.L. Wild Card, but talk to me again in 6 or 7 weeks.

DickAllen72
01-26-2008, 07:08 PM
As of today, I'll say 87-75.

The offseason isn't over yet.....

chisox77
01-26-2008, 07:22 PM
91-71



:cool:

sox1970
01-26-2008, 07:25 PM
112-50

:gulp::gulp::gulp::gulp:

HomeFish
01-26-2008, 07:33 PM
74-88

batmanZoSo
01-26-2008, 07:37 PM
77-85

Or 91-71

Lip Man 1
01-26-2008, 07:44 PM
With respect, it is way to early for this thread. Talk to me after the Sox deal Joe Crede. Let's see what they get for him... also there is still a chance they ink one of the many unsigned veterans out there. That could change the dynamics of say the starting rotation.

March 15th is a much better time to start zeroing in on this.

Lip

oeo
01-26-2008, 07:45 PM
With respect, it is way to early for this thread. Talk to me after the Sox deal Joe Crede. Let's see what they get for him... also there is still a chance they ink one of the many unsigned veterans out there. That could change the dynamics of say the starting rotation.

March 15th is a much better time to start zeroing in on this.

Lip

By March 15th, the Sox will have 3 wins in Spring Training and this place will be going nuts. It's good to get some optimist posts in here before the 120 loss predictions start coming in.

batmanZoSo
01-26-2008, 07:54 PM
With respect, it is way to early for this thread. Talk to me after the Sox deal Joe Crede. Let's see what they get for him... also there is still a chance they ink one of the many unsigned veterans out there. That could change the dynamics of say the starting rotation.

March 15th is a much better time to start zeroing in on this.

Lip

I predict everyone has a good time and maybe learns a thing or two along the way.

SOXfnNlansing
01-26-2008, 08:04 PM
98-64

Cuck the Fubs
01-26-2008, 08:13 PM
90 wins.

Book it:cool:

PKalltheway
01-26-2008, 08:24 PM
87-75

WhiteSoxFan84
01-27-2008, 02:50 AM
right now?
74-88


after kenny trades crede as he sounds like he will and hopefully gets some very useful players for him one being, id say.... 84-78.

IF HEALTHY, we'll have solid pitching. thornton-linebrink-dotel-jenks look very solid. throw in logan-macdougal-wasserman-bukvich-etc., the bullpen looks A LOT better.
our starting rotation worries me the most. i expect good things from buehrle and vasquez. i expect bad things from contreras and our # 5, i hope im wrong. i expect a solid effort from danks. if crede is dealt i hope its for a young, up and coming starting pitcher than we polish into a surprisingily reliable # 4 or # 5.
our lineup.... what the hell, im willing to give it a shot. we can either keep whining about not having a legit/proven leadoff man, or we can put all our eggs in the jerry owens basket and wish for the best. with my new found optimism, i choose the latter. im actually not too worried about the following lineup:
1) L owens - cf
2) R cabrera - ss
3) R konerko - 1b
4) L thome - dh
5) R dye - rf
6) L swisher - lf
7) L pierzynski - c
8) R fields - 3b
9) R richar/uribe/ozuna - 2b

I'd love to see Ozzie experiment with Ozuna as the everyday 2B in spring training and have his speed in our lineup almost everyday. Then we can use Uribe as the super sub.

bring on the baseball season. as down as i was before, i honestly stopped caring so much about the bad offseason and just wanna get to watching MY team perform. if theyre bad, ill be there to point out their mistakes, if theyre good, ill be surprised but ill be happy.

i guess this is what sox pride is all about...

peeonwrigley
01-27-2008, 02:58 AM
right now?
74-88


after kenny trades crede as he sounds like he will and hopefully gets some very useful players for him one being, id say.... 84-78.

If the Crede trade is worth 10 wins Kenny will deserve a medal.

WhiteSoxFan84
01-27-2008, 04:26 AM
If the Crede trade is worth 10 wins Kenny will deserve a medal.

crede/fields on the bench = none productive

the guy, hopefully a reliable SP like i said, we get for crede can make a 10 win difference, definitely. if we have a joker's wild at the 5th spot in our rotation like we did a few years ago and only get 2-4 wins from those guys compared to 12-14 wins we get from a surprise SP we acquire for crede, then yes.

KyWhiSoxFan
01-27-2008, 07:40 AM
88-74.

I think the bullpen will be a huge factor. If Linebrink and Dotel are effective, it will really shorten the game. The starters will not have to go as long.

Danks, for instance, at least last year, seemed to be good for only about five innings. Well, if he does that again, you have Thornton in the sixth, Dotel in the seventh, Linebrink in the eighth, and Jenks in the ninth. I think that is formidable. It is also why I think KW wants to carry 12 pitchers, to use the bullpen as a big asset.

Johnny Mostil
01-27-2008, 08:47 AM
161-1

Who's the 1?

Johnny Mostil
01-27-2008, 08:48 AM
I predict everyone has a good time and maybe learns a thing or two along the way.

And eats churros . . . don't forget the churros . . .

DumpJerry
01-27-2008, 09:30 AM
161-1

Dark Cloud.:angry:

173-0
Ding ding ding! We have a winner!

veeter
01-27-2008, 10:15 AM
The Sox will be the most improved team in baseball. They will add 14 wins. 86-76.

cards press box
01-27-2008, 10:18 AM
With respect, it is way to early for this thread. Talk to me after the Sox deal Joe Crede. Let's see what they get for him... also there is still a chance they ink one of the many unsigned veterans out there. That could change the dynamics of say the starting rotation.

March 15th is a much better time to start zeroing in on this.

Lip

I agree with this. Not only do the Sox still have Joe Crede but, for that matter, Juan Uribe and Mike MacDougal. Will they be on the roster or be traded? And if they are traded, for what? There has been some discussion of Uribe competing for 2nd base and a four-way competition between Uribe, Alexei Ramirez, Danny Richar and Pablo Ozuna may work out well.

It's just too early to make a prediction on the final record but I like the moves that the Sox have already made a lot. This team has added talent and has become more balanced. That's the right way to go.

he_gone_89
01-27-2008, 10:30 AM
Sox are gonna come out of the gate fired up, then cool off a little, then kick it back up to go 97-66 beat the twins in a playoff to win the wildcard, beat Boston and Detroilet in the playoffs and win the World Series once again. GO SOX !!!

jabrch
01-27-2008, 10:35 AM
With respect, it is way to early for this thread. Talk to me after the Sox deal Joe Crede. Let's see what they get for him... also there is still a chance they ink one of the many unsigned veterans out there. That could change the dynamics of say the starting rotation.

March 15th is a much better time to start zeroing in on this.

Lip


I totally agree Lip. Right now we have no idea what this roster will look like. Until then - I am not going to make a prediction.

russ99
01-27-2008, 10:41 AM
I'm going with 92-70 - but only if they trade Crede for a starter and move Floyd into long relief.

If Floyd is in the rotation most of the year, I'll take 84-78.

soxfan21
01-27-2008, 11:01 AM
As of right now I think 80-85 wins, but if we get a quality starter via trade with crede/anderson/uribe, then I think 90-95 could be a possibility, but like many others have posted, I think that we have to wait til mid march to get an idea of what is going on and how many wins this team will most likely get.

soxinem1
01-27-2008, 11:18 AM
I'd like to see how they pitch, run, and play defense in ST. I could not make a guess now until a few issues with 3B, 2B, LF, CF, the batting order, and the rotation are settled.

viagracat
01-27-2008, 11:24 AM
Doesn't VC have an *official* prediction thread every year toward the end of ST?

Like others have said, it's way too early with too many unknowns to make a serious prediction right now.

If you held a gun to my head right now I'd say 83-79, but I'm sure this will come up again later and I'll be happy to elaborate then. :cool:

areilly
01-27-2008, 11:24 AM
Barring a trade of Crede and Uribe for Santana, 81-81.

soxwon
01-27-2008, 12:15 PM
ha ha 91-71 , im telling ya people we are for real.

JB98
01-27-2008, 01:04 PM
I don't think KW is done yet, and there's a long way from here until March 31. But since it's a boring January Sunday, I'll play along and say 85-77. :cool:

As it stands right now, I don't think we're good enough to make the playoffs, but we're not going to be as godawful horse**** as some of my colleagues in the Chicago media think.

MCHSoxFan
01-27-2008, 04:08 PM
Simple, what does everybody think?

Best Average: O-Cab
Best ERA: Buehrle
Most Home Runs: Thome

I say 93-68. More balanced team than 2006 (90 game winner) and NO Machowiack in CF!!! :D: :cool:

I totally agree with you on O-Cab, MB, and Thome being the leader in those areas.

MCHSoxFan
01-27-2008, 04:13 PM
The Sox will be the most improved team in baseball. They will add 14 wins. 86-76.

PLUS!!!: The players in the line-up's going back to average or ABOVE average this season. In 2007, most of the players most of the time were waaayyy below their normal average. People forget/ignore that. On top of that, we added some players with talent.

MAN! I AM SO PUMPED FOR 2008!!! :cool:

Jerome
01-27-2008, 04:30 PM
I say 88. I'm really exited to watch a team with a better bullpen and Nick Swisher every day.

soxwon
01-27-2008, 05:07 PM
Sox are gonna come out of the gate fired up, then cool off a little, then kick it back up to go 97-66 beat the twins in a playoff to win the wildcard, beat Boston and Detroilet in the playoffs and win the World Series once again. GO SOX !!!


Yes sir, thats a real Believa!!!
Welcome to Da mInistry my friend.

TomBradley72
01-27-2008, 06:49 PM
This team seems a lot like the 1982,1985,1996 versions of the White Sox...decent teams but with a few holes (starting rotation depth, 2B, CF defense)that can't be overcome.

I'll go with 85 wins...if they stay healthy.

chisoxmike
01-27-2008, 07:06 PM
I'll play...82-80

I think a lot of people don't realize how hard it is to reverse a 72-90 record. Especially with a weak rotation in a tough division.

oeo
01-27-2008, 07:12 PM
I'll play...82-80

I think a lot of people don't realize how hard it is to reverse a 72-90 record. Especially with a weak rotation in a tough division.

It's also a team that had underachievers last year, plus it is much improved overall this year (regardless of losing Garland, this team is still better). I think it's entirely possible that they surprise a lot of people.

Rockabilly
01-27-2008, 07:43 PM
Im thinking 88-74

chisoxmike
01-27-2008, 07:46 PM
I think it's entirely possible that they surprise a lot of people.

Let's hope.

HBaines03
01-27-2008, 07:54 PM
I can't believe that this team won't be at least 85 wins and more. Last year, everything that could go wrong went wrong. Last year:
1. Relief pitching had 19-25 record with a 5.49 ERA and 23 blown saves.
2. Subpar years from 2 key hitters in Konerko and Dye
3. Injuries (Crede/Ozuna/Erstad/Podsednik) - all keys to success for last year
4. Jose Contreras off field issues
5. We had the largest run differential between opponents and us since 1976.
6. Our .246 batting average was the lowest team average since 1988.
7. No 100 RBI man - first since 1990
8. No hitter with .280+ average - first since 1988.
9. Multiple players with first serious playing time - Fields/Owens/Richar/numerous relief pitchers

2008:
1. We improved our relief by adding Linebrink and Dotel giving us experienced pitchers and not young guys stressing themselves out by trying to make the team and getting hit hard.
2. Konerko and Dye can't hit much worse than what they did in the first half so anything will likely be an improvement.
3. Injuries are always a possibility but hopefully they won't be to keys starters and subs.
4. Jose Contreras will rebound - can't pitch any worse
5/6/7/8. Should all improve with the players we picked up and Konerko/Dye
9. These guys have had a year under their belt and 2 are being pushed for their positions which should ultimately make them better.

I like the team we have and I am excited to see what trades are to come before spring training. We have gotten younger and more energetic in my opinion and I can't wait for baseball to start.

MCHSoxFan
01-27-2008, 08:39 PM
I can't believe that this team won't be at least 85 wins and more. Last year, everything that could go wrong went wrong. Last year:
1. Relief pitching had 19-25 record with a 5.49 ERA and 23 blown saves.
2. Subpar years from 2 key hitters in Konerko and Dye
3. Injuries (Crede/Ozuna/Erstad/Podsednik) - all keys to success for last year
4. Jose Contreras off field issues
5. We had the largest run differential between opponents and us since 1976.
6. Our .246 batting average was the lowest team average since 1988.
7. No 100 RBI man - first since 1990
8. No hitter with .280+ average - first since 1988.
9. Multiple players with first serious playing time - Fields/Owens/Richar/numerous relief pitchers

2008:
1. We improved our relief by adding Linebrink and Dotel giving us experienced pitchers and not young guys stressing themselves out by trying to make the team and getting hit hard.
2. Konerko and Dye can't hit much worse than what they did in the first half so anything will likely be an improvement.
3. Injuries are always a possibility but hopefully they won't be to keys starters and subs.
4. Jose Contreras will rebound - can't pitch any worse
5/6/7/8. Should all improve with the players we picked up and Konerko/Dye
9. These guys have had a year under their belt and 2 are being pushed for their positions which should ultimately make them better.

I like the team we have and I am excited to see what trades are to come before spring training. We have gotten younger and more energetic in my opinion and I can't wait for baseball to start.

OUTSTANDING points!!!!!

This is how have felt since the middle/late part of the 2007 baseball season and up until now. I just didn't feel like typing all of this! :cool:

WhiteSoxFan84
01-27-2008, 09:06 PM
I can't believe that this team won't be at least 85 wins and more. Last year, everything that could go wrong went wrong. Last year:
1. Relief pitching had 19-25 record with a 5.49 ERA and 23 blown saves.
2. Subpar years from 2 key hitters in Konerko and Dye
3. Injuries (Crede/Ozuna/Erstad/Podsednik) - all keys to success for last year
4. Jose Contreras off field issues
5. We had the largest run differential between opponents and us since 1976.
6. Our .246 batting average was the lowest team average since 1988.
7. No 100 RBI man - first since 1990
8. No hitter with .280+ average - first since 1988.
9. Multiple players with first serious playing time - Fields/Owens/Richar/numerous relief pitchers

2008:
1. We improved our relief by adding Linebrink and Dotel giving us experienced pitchers and not young guys stressing themselves out by trying to make the team and getting hit hard.
2. Konerko and Dye can't hit much worse than what they did in the first half so anything will likely be an improvement.
3. Injuries are always a possibility but hopefully they won't be to keys starters and subs.
4. Jose Contreras will rebound - can't pitch any worse
5/6/7/8. Should all improve with the players we picked up and Konerko/Dye
9. These guys have had a year under their belt and 2 are being pushed for their positions which should ultimately make them better.

I like the team we have and I am excited to see what trades are to come before spring training. We have gotten younger and more energetic in my opinion and I can't wait for baseball to start.


they really CAN'T be as bad or worse than last year, its almost impossible.
but keep in mind that the tigers got A LOT better, if you can believe that or not, and the indians have one more year under their belt as a team collectively. i dont remember how well we did against the tribe but we did very well against the tigers. with them being improved, we may lose some wins their. the twins will now have santana/liriano in the rotation which only means more POSSIBLE losses (on paper) against them unless they break the band up (trade santana). the royals have improved as well. the cubs have improved (yes we only play them 6 times but our interleague schedule is already tougher because of those 6 games).

i still DEFINITELY think we'll improve on 72 wins, but just keep in mind that 2 of the other 4 teams in our division added talent (tigers and royals), 1 added playoff experience (indians), and the other is going to be healthier and improved (twins) if they dont make any huge deals. we have improved as well, almost as much as the tigers [(+ swisher, dotel, linebrink, and o. cabrera - garland) << [(+ m. cabrera, willis, reneteria, jones - miller)], but on paper, we have a lot of overachieving to do. hey, we did it a few years ago, why not again?

TomBradley72
01-27-2008, 09:20 PM
If we stay healthy...we have a chance.

As strong as the Tigers are...any rotation with Rogers/Willis/Robertson as it's 3-5 has some risk combined with the state of their bullpen...there's a scenario where they are the not world beaters.

Same with Cleveland...Paul Byrd is there #3, Borowski is their closer, outside of Sizemore and possibly Martinez and/or Hafner...nothing special in their starting line up.

We very little depth, so we have to stay healthy...and alot of question marks (Contreras, Floyd, Danks, Linebrink, Dotel, Owens, Richar,etc.) have to be answered in our favor.

RadioheadRocks
01-27-2008, 09:47 PM
I'll go with 86-76 here; can't keep this team under .500 too long! :D:

ChiSoxPatF
01-28-2008, 09:55 AM
I agree with the slightly optimistic crowd here. They vastly under performed last year in almost every aspect of the game and this seems like a team that will rebound. Add better relievers and a better #1-2 combo in Cabrera and Swisher and I think we're going to be fine. 87-75 right now with a +/- of 5 wins. Probably not enough for the playoffs in our division but this team should be fun to watch.

Snowcat28
01-28-2008, 11:28 AM
86 wins and if Kenny can swing a deal for Crede/Uribe for depth and pitching--all the better.

KenBerryGrab
01-28-2008, 11:30 AM
91-71, five games better than the Cubs.

...
01-28-2008, 11:33 AM
105 wins...

balke
01-28-2008, 12:24 PM
91-71



:cool:


I like this # because of the top of the order and the depth right now on the team. This is actually my conservative #, because I think the Sox can win 97 or so with this team clicking.

steely712
01-28-2008, 08:40 PM
I'll say 88 wins, if we can get a legit leadoff man, and one more starting pitcher, I think that we can definitely take the division.

DoItForDanPasqua
01-28-2008, 09:48 PM
82-80. Some of the bullpen improvements should be good for a few wins.

areilly
01-28-2008, 09:55 PM
I like this # because of the top of the order and the depth right now on the team. This is actually my conservative #, because I think the Sox can win 97 or so with this team clicking.

I would have to say that you're out of your ****ing mind if you think Nick Swisher, Carlos Quentin, Orlando Cabrera, Alexei Ramirez, Octavio Dotel and Scott Linebrink could possibly represent a 25-game turnaround. I don't care how many Ryan Bukvich's the Sox get rid of, there is no way this team has as much potential as you're hoping.

Corlose 15
01-29-2008, 05:21 AM
I would have to say that you're out of your ****ing mind if you think Nick Swisher, Carlos Quentin, Orlando Cabrera, Alexei Ramirez, Octavio Dotel and Scott Linebrink could possibly represent a 25-game turnaround. I don't care how many Ryan Bukvich's the Sox get rid of, there is no way this team has as much potential as you're hoping.

I think you're forgetting (we'd all like to) how monumentally awful the bullpen was last year. Not only did they blow something like 18 games where they were given the lead in the 7th inning or later (Thank you Lip) but there were countless games that they let go from a one or two run deficit to a 5,6,7 run deficit. Dotel and Linebrink are going to go a long way towards stabilizing that.

The other major issue last year was the lineup. When you add good (Swisher) and potentially good (Quentin, Cabrera) OBP players to a lineup that had AJ hit 21 points below his career average, Dye 21 points below his career average, and Paulie 22 points below his career average and there is a very good chance you see a significant rebound in production from the lineup.

97 wins is nowhere near a certainty but if things go well, and they have to go well for every playoff team, then its within the realm of possibility.

kaufsox
01-29-2008, 10:42 AM
check back with me on 3/30/08 @ 11:59 pm. I know you'll all be waiting with bated breath for my predictions.

gna2112
01-29-2008, 01:53 PM
I am a brand new member and this will be my first post, so don't beat me up to much when I say this. I believe we will surprise alot of people this year, if we can stay healthy. With that being said, my prediction is a 94-68(now ducking from all those flying objects!!! In my opinion no one expects anything from these guys(mostly media), only ones that do, are us White Sox fans. When they are put in an underdog status, the Sox always seem to surprise people. Finally, I am so glad i have found this site, living in Central Florida it's hard to find anyone excited about the White Sox(except my wife and kids) and this will definitely feed my white Sox fix.

david

doublem23
01-29-2008, 01:57 PM
I am a brand new member and this will be my first post, so don't beat me up to much when I say this. I believe we will surprise alot of people this year, if we can stay healthy. With that being said, my prediction is a 94-68(now ducking from all those flying objects!!! In my opinion no one expects anything from these guys(mostly media), only ones that do, are us White Sox fans. When they are put in an underdog status, the Sox always seem to surprise people. Finally, I am so glad i have found this site, living in Central Florida it's hard to find anyone excited about the White Sox(except my wife and kids) and this will definitely feed my white Sox fix.

david

:welcome:

Your optimisim is not welcome here!

Just kidding, it's nice to get a new member who hasn't already thrown up the white flag for 2008.

FedEx227
01-29-2008, 02:11 PM
85-88, in that range.

balke
01-29-2008, 02:41 PM
I would have to say that you're out of your ****ing mind if you think Nick Swisher, Carlos Quentin, Orlando Cabrera, Alexei Ramirez, Octavio Dotel and Scott Linebrink could possibly represent a 25-game turnaround. I don't care how many Ryan Bukvich's the Sox get rid of, there is no way this team has as much potential as you're hoping.

Well I think you would have to say that any season. And its not based on the acquisitions alone.

Cabrera > Uribe
Uribe > Gonzalez/Cintron/Ozuna
Swisher >>> Erstad
Linebrink +
The lineup now has OBP at the top of the order which will be awesome for Thome/Konerko/Dye. And finally a .300 hitter in Cabrera.

Bullpen should be way better. Starting pitching should be there. We'll see. I expect an 80 + win team at the least, and a 97 win team at the most.

LITTLE NELL
01-29-2008, 07:22 PM
I think the Sox will bounce back with a 90-72 record, there is no way this team has a collective slump like they had in the 1st half of 07. One more good starter and we are in the playoffs.

turners56
01-29-2008, 07:26 PM
89-73. Most likely a third place finish, second if we're lucky. Bring on another solid starter and I'll add 5 wins.

santo=dorf
01-29-2008, 07:27 PM
I might be in the minority here, but anyone who predicts this team will win 94+ games is insulting the 2005 team.

Really, look how great that team played (IT COMES DOWN TO PITCHING,) yet some how this Sox team with its current rotation will surpass or come close to them? :dtroll:

Corlose 15
01-29-2008, 07:34 PM
I might be in the minority here, but anyone who predicts this team will win 94+ games is insulting the 2005 team.

Really, look how great that team played (IT COMES DOWN TO PITCHING,) yet some how this Sox team with its current rotation will surpass or come close to them? :dtroll:

This lineup will be better than the '05 lineup. We'll see about the rotation and bullpen.

turners56
01-29-2008, 09:10 PM
This lineup will be better than the '05 lineup. We'll see about the rotation and bullpen.


Bullpen is a toss up, Cotts and Politte had absolutely brilliant seasons. Along with Hermanson carrying the closer load for 3/4 of the year, then letting Jenks take it over in September. If Linebrink and Dotel can turn in the seasons Cots and Politte had and Thornton gets back to 06 form with a healthy and consistent Bobby Jenks, then the bullpen we have now is every bit as good. However, the rotation was light years better. Lineup is better this year, but I think a lineup without a true lead-off hitter will come back and bite us in the ass.

Corlose 15
01-29-2008, 09:46 PM
Bullpen is a toss up, Cotts and Politte had absolutely brilliant seasons. Along with Hermanson carrying the closer load for 3/4 of the year, then letting Jenks take it over in September. If Linebrink and Dotel can turn in the seasons Cots and Politte had and Thornton gets back to 06 form with a healthy and consistent Bobby Jenks, then the bullpen we have now is every bit as good. However, the rotation was light years better. Lineup is better this year, but I think a lineup without a true lead-off hitter will come back and bite us in the ass.


The rotation ended up outstanding, but to say it was light years better is a bit of hindsight. There were some questions about Garland, Contreras, and Hernandez going into '05 much like there are about Contreras, Danks, and Floyd this year.

moochpuppy
01-29-2008, 10:03 PM
87-75 in the toughest division in baseball. Only good enough for 3rd place. If the Sox can get a quallity starter for a healthy and cheap Crede, add 6 move wins and a wildcard birth.

SI1020
01-31-2008, 08:20 AM
With respect, it is way to early for this thread. Talk to me after the Sox deal Joe Crede. Let's see what they get for him... also there is still a chance they ink one of the many unsigned veterans out there. That could change the dynamics of say the starting rotation.

March 15th is a much better time to start zeroing in on this.

Lip I agree, but as of right now, I see a team that will struggle to be .500.

Steelrod
01-31-2008, 09:10 AM
91-71

soxfanatlanta
01-31-2008, 09:17 AM
I've long given up predicting wins losses by the numbers.

The churros will be very tastey.

gobears1987
01-31-2008, 02:43 PM
90-72 (reverse of last year)

2nd in AL Central behind the Tigers. We will contend for the Wildcard and will at least make it a race out of the division. I think we have a fair shot of playing in October. It's a long season so anything can happen.

Best Average: Dye (rebounds)
Best ERA: Buehrle
Most Home Runs: Paulie

StillMissOzzie
01-31-2008, 10:19 PM
The Sox will be the most improved team in baseball. They will add 14 wins. 86-76.

I'll go with 86-76 here; can't keep this team under .500 too long! :D:

I like the cut of your jib, both of you! This was the record I came up with before I started reading this thread, and I am sticking with it.

I'll also add that it will be better than the Cubs :D:
But only good enough for 3rd place in the AL Central :(::angry::whiner:

I am a brand new member and this will be my first post, so don't beat me up to much when I say this. I believe we will surprise alot of people this year, if we can stay healthy. With that being said, my prediction is a 94-68(now ducking from all those flying objects!!! In my opinion no one expects anything from these guys(mostly media), only ones that do, are us White Sox fans. When they are put in an underdog status, the Sox always seem to surprise people. Finally, I am so glad i have found this site, living in Central Florida it's hard to find anyone excited about the White Sox(except my wife and kids) and this will definitely feed my white Sox fix.

david

Welcome!

SMO
:gulp:

SteveFakeBlood
01-31-2008, 10:38 PM
83-79, third place. This time reminds me eerily of the 2004 team- lots of uncertainty at the back of the rotation and the leadoff spot, but still plenty of power and exciting players. Still, the pieces for 2005 began to put in place in '04 with the pick-ups of Freddy Garcia and Jose Contreras that shored up the rotation (although not at the 5th spot- who can forget that disaster? I think 5th starters over the course of the year won literally something like 6 games...).

The Sox will compete for a period of time and do well enough to make smug Cubs fans shut the hell up. But I don't expect much more than that.

Buehrle and Javy can be counted on for 15 wins, if Contreras can end up 12-12 with a 4.50 ERA in 30 starts (a la pre-2005 Jon Garland numbers) I'll be happy and I'm thinking there will be a breakthrough at the #4 starter spot- it'll either be Danks, Floyd or a name I've barely heard a whisper of- Lance Broadway. I can see one of those kids coming out of nowhere to put together something like a nice little 14-10 3.90 ERA type season... that said, I forecast the 5th spot will end up a travesty.

Not sure if Jerry Owens is the answer at the leadoff spot, but I guess we'll find out... I think people don't give him enough credit (he WAS 8th in the AL in stolen bases last year), but at the same time, he's going to be 27 and maybe there's a reason he hasn't established himself yet... in '04 the leadoff spot alternated all year between Willie Harris, Uribe and Rowand... I could see that happening again.

Still the phenomonal middle of the lineup explosiveness of Swisher, Thome, Konerko, Dye and Fields cannot be denied, we have a very realistic chance of FIVE 30 homerun hitters. Which seems to be a formula for an exciting, contending Sox team- but there's little I have optimism for beyond that.

Let's not forget that even though I think the Twins will be very bad (their rotation now has Liriano coming off of surgery and Boof Bonser.... I'm shaking in my boots...) and the Royals are overhyped (wow, they signed a good Japanese reliever and a bunch of washed up starters- congratulations)- the Tigers had an incredible offseason and their lineup and rotation seem virtually flawless on paper and the Indians are going to be just as good as last year barring horrible luck.

Anything can happen- but I'm not betting on anything better than 3rd.

~Steve

A. Cavatica
01-31-2008, 10:56 PM
As of today, 83 wins. I think we'll score some runs, but the pitching and managing will let us down.

Bobbo35
02-01-2008, 08:26 AM
The sox are going to be the sleeper once again. If they can pull off a crede/lowry or another pitcher trade, I am saying 91-72.

shoelessshaun27!
02-01-2008, 03:23 PM
162-0

but losing in the world series to the expos

PalehosePlanet
02-01-2008, 03:36 PM
the Tigers had an incredible offseason and their lineup and rotation seem virtually flawless on paper and the Indians are going to be just as good as last year barring horrible luck.


The Tigers pitching is actually closer to terrible than good. They have Verlander and a bunch of question marks. The most overrated SP in baseball, Bonderman had 5.01 ERA last year. Rogers is 45 and coming off a bad year, Willis threw an 86 mph fastball last year while stiniking up the NL, and Robertson is ...well, Robertson.

Also their bullpen was only a hair better than ours last year and they've done nothing to improve it. Todd Jones is the worst closer in baseball (second worst would be Borowski.)

Sure their offense looks awesome but their pitching will kill them.

I'm not saying we're better, we have a lot to prove, but every team in the AL Central has a bunch of question marks. I think we could be the dark horse this year.

SteveFakeBlood
02-01-2008, 11:00 PM
The Tigers pitching is actually closer to terrible than good. They have Verlander and a bunch of question marks. The most overrated SP in baseball, Bonderman had 5.01 ERA last year. Rogers is 45 and coming off a bad year, Willis threw an 86 mph fastball last year while stiniking up the NL, and Robertson is ...well, Robertson.

Also their bullpen was only a hair better than ours last year and they've done nothing to improve it. Todd Jones is the worst closer in baseball (second worst would be Borowski.)

Sure their offense looks awesome but their pitching will kill them.

I'm not saying we're better, we have a lot to prove, but every team in the AL Central has a bunch of question marks. I think we could be the dark horse this year.

I will concede that their pitching is inconsistent, but their rotation is still good. Verlander, great- wild at times, but seems to remarkably have his **** together for a starter his age. Willis is coming off a bad year, but has a career ERA lower than Mark Buehrle's and last year really was his only bad year in his first five (i.e. Willis's last year was like Buehrle's second half of '06 an abberation in an otherwise fine career)- his fastball may have been terrible, but he's young enough to come up with a new pitch to keep hitters off-balance, particularly with his wacky motion. Bonderman has a similar pedigree to Jon Garland at that point in his career... he's going on 26 and poised for a breakthrough. Rogers' age does make him a question mark, but he will have less strain on him as a #4 starter- he won't be super, but he'll be good out of that spot. Ditto for Robertson (other than the age thing).

Their pen isn't anything too special, but with that offense and those starters it doesn't have to be. I don't think it's bad enough to kill them by any means.

Still, good points.

~Steve

he gone!
02-01-2008, 11:38 PM
93-69

JoeClutch24
02-01-2008, 11:40 PM
90-72, If pitching returns to form, 81-81 if it doesn't.

Vestigio
02-02-2008, 10:27 AM
Right now, I'd say at or around .500 (+/- a few games)

Personally, it depends on what, if anything, we get for Crede. A decent SP? A few more wins. Anything else, we have the same record or worse.

SOXandILLINI
02-02-2008, 09:17 PM
77-85, unless we add another quality starter, if we do, we may be .500, either way, I don't see any playoff push from this slow, plodding squad. Pretty depressing, hope I'm wrong.

WhiteSox Brad
02-03-2008, 09:06 AM
81-81. After last year's disaster, let's just hope we are competitive and relevant again.

Contreras, Danks, and Floyd are key. We cannot have three starters with ERAs north of 5.00, but that is my fear. Will someone step-up and surprise? Egbert?

ChiSox36
02-07-2008, 11:09 AM
I was one of a small group that picked the Sox to win the division in 2005 before the season started...and not because I'm a huge fan that thinks they will always win. I was not shocked at their fast start. I think this team is somewhat similar to that team, however there remains more question marks with this team.

That being said, I am not as bold, and will say they will be 84-80 and probably take third. However, I would not be surprised to see our 2008 Sox excel and win the division if those question marks are answered.

santo=dorf
02-07-2008, 11:27 AM
I was one of a small group that picked the Sox to win the division in 2005 before the season started...and not because I'm a huge fan that thinks they will always win. I was not shocked at their fast start. I think this team is somewhat similar to that team, however there remains more question marks with this team.

That being said, I am not as bold, and will say they will be 84-80 and probably take third. However, I would not be surprised to see our 2008 Sox excel and win the division if those question marks are answered.
http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=46940
What small group? There were a lot of people predicting a division winner even a world series winner.

I will say predicting an 84-80 record in a 162 game season is pretty bold however. :cool:

moochpuppy
02-08-2008, 12:55 AM
Record: 91-71

Best Average: Dye
Best ERA: Buehrle
Most Home Runs: Swisher

YourPonyDied
02-08-2008, 06:55 AM
102 wins

munchman33
02-08-2008, 10:59 AM
79 wins, 3rd place

AzureJazzMan
02-08-2008, 12:12 PM
I am in a agreement with sveral others...
91-71

I just have this hunch, that this team will suprise a lot of people by it's balance and depth. It just feels more like a team to me.

Fenway
02-08-2008, 12:14 PM
92-70 2nd in Central wins wild card by a game over New York.

White Sox then play Boston in the ALDS

spiffie
02-08-2008, 12:20 PM
Right now this looks like a team that will win about 83 or so games. It seems like a decent, not overwhelming team that just has too many holes still to contend with the big boys. The real hope for the year is the young kids prove themselves. If we can go into 2009 with a solid young core including Swisher, Quentin, Richar, Fields, Danks all playing well I think good things could be on the horizon.

Tekijawa
02-08-2008, 12:29 PM
94-58

tstrike2000
02-08-2008, 12:56 PM
92-70, 1st in Central. White Sox play Wild Card winner Toronto in the ALDS. Angels play New York.

Fixed it for you. :tongue:

Cessna
02-08-2008, 01:55 PM
I believe that they will post 88 wins behind CLE and ahead of DET and going neck and neck with TOR for the wild card. Its going to be a good year!

sox1970
02-08-2008, 01:59 PM
I believe that they will post 88 wins behind CLE and ahead of DET and going neck and neck with TOR for the wild card. Its going to be a good year!

After the Mariners get Bedard, I don't see how the Yankees, Red Sox, Mariners, Angels, Indians, and Tigers all don't have at least 90 wins. The White Sox and Blue Jays may hover around .500. The rest will be below .500. I hope I'm wrong. Injuries and ****ty bullpens can change this.

wulfy
02-08-2008, 02:49 PM
Sox Record: 86-76

Best Average: Dye
Best ERA: Jenks
Most Home Runs: Konerko

AL Central: Detroit
AL East: Boston
AL West: Seattle
AL Wildcard: Anaheim (Central beats each other up too much)

NL Central: Chicago (sorry .... :angry:)
NL East: New York
NL West: San Diego
NL Wildcard: Los Angeles

World Series: Boston/New York
World Series Winner: New York Metropolitans

jdm2662
02-08-2008, 02:56 PM
162-0 of course, my friends. :tongue:

Corlose 15
02-08-2008, 04:03 PM
94-58


How do they do the last 10 games of the season?:cool: 5-5 would match their 2005 record.

champagne030
02-08-2008, 04:14 PM
How do they do the last 10 games of the season?:cool: 5-5 would match their 2005 record.

The White Sox? The 2005 team ended the regular season on an 8-2 stretch.

sox1970
02-08-2008, 04:17 PM
^ He didn't get it.

champagne030
02-08-2008, 04:25 PM
^ He didn't get it.

Now I do.....Yes, 152 game season wouldn't cut it......:redface:

HAR-OLD
02-08-2008, 05:11 PM
86-76 (3rd)

wins: buerhle (18)
era: vazquez (3.65)

avg: cabrera (.310)
obp: swisher (.385)
slg: thome (.560)
rbi: konerko (115)

i think the lineup will really come together starting in june, injuries in second half arent as much of a problem due to better depth

unfortunately, i think contreras starts out fine, not great, but fades in second half, that combined with up and down year from both floyd and danks keeps team from making a serious run at detroit (99) and cleveland (95 and wildcard)

kevingrt
02-09-2008, 03:08 PM
Sox Record: 82-80

Best Hitter: Dye
Best Pitcher: Burlymon

AL Central: Cleveland
AL East: Boston
AL West: Seattle
AL Wildcard: Detroit

NL Central: No One
NL East: New York
NL West: San Diego
NL Wildcard: Atlanta

World Series: Cleveland vs New York
World Series Winner: New York Mets