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SoxNation05
01-04-2008, 01:12 PM
Who is you breakout player for the Sox this year and what are his stats?

munchman33
01-04-2008, 01:14 PM
Gavin Floyd

9-17 5.65 era

Best year of his career.

sox1970
01-04-2008, 01:16 PM
Gavin Floyd

14-10, 4.15 ERA

chisoxmike
01-04-2008, 01:16 PM
Gavin Floyd

9-17 5.65 era

Best year of his career.

:rolling: :rolling:

soxfan21
01-04-2008, 01:17 PM
I really think, and hope, that Danks really has a breakout year. Hopefully last year he was just getting the bugs out and this year he really shines.

SoxNation05
01-04-2008, 01:20 PM
I really think, and hope, that Danks really has a breakout year. Hopefully last year he was just getting the bugs out and this year he really shines.
I say Danks goes 15-9 with 4.4era and some strong run support.

IceczMan
01-04-2008, 01:21 PM
Gavin Floyd

10-9 5.20 ERA, just good enough to remain the fifth starter for the entire year.

Rockabilly
01-04-2008, 01:29 PM
Danny Richar

296 Avg 14 Hr's 60 rbi's 25 sb's

gogosox16
01-04-2008, 01:32 PM
Alexei Ramirez in AAA
bats .315 25 homers 25 steals and then Kenny trades him since hes a prospect

rookieroy
01-04-2008, 01:40 PM
John Danks. He appears to have all the tools and mechanics very similar to a younger Mark Buehrle.

SoxNation05
01-04-2008, 01:48 PM
John Danks. He appears to have all the tools and mechanics very similar to a younger Mark Buehrle.
:praying:

CWSpalehoseCWS
01-04-2008, 02:59 PM
I'll say Danks. 12-7 with a ERA around 4.3

Domeshot17
01-04-2008, 03:05 PM
Offensively Carlos Quentin .284 23 homers 79 rbis in 400+ Abs

Pitching NICK MASSETT who re-earns a bullpen slot, throws 47 games with a 3.64 era 4 wins 2 losses 2 saves and becomes a strong 7th inning guy.

I also think Broadway, if hes the 4th or 5th sp this year, could be the ROTY

Bucky F. Dent
01-04-2008, 03:11 PM
A trifecta of Danks, Broadway, and Alexei Ramirez.

steely712
01-04-2008, 03:41 PM
I'll say Richar Avg. .284, RBI. 72, SB. 15, R. 80

Bullpen I think Mcdougal will have an awesome year as well.

JackK
01-04-2008, 03:51 PM
Who is you breakout player for the Sox this year and what are his stats?

Jerry Owens. Lights up CF in ST, gets the CF job, bats .280 with 45 SB.

JermaineDye05
01-04-2008, 03:59 PM
John Danks

12-9

3.95 ERA


I could also see...

Scott Linebrink

5-1

2.95 ERA

veeter
01-04-2008, 04:02 PM
It's tough when you haven't seen some of these guys play, but Carlos Quentin has sleeper written all over him. .275 15 78.

The Milkman
01-04-2008, 04:10 PM
52-year old right-hander Jose Contreras re-breaks-out for a 15-9 3.81ERA

No teal. I've got a feeling. Maybe Ramirez will bring in that "having a Cuban friend on the team" attitude that Jose had in 2005 with El Duque. He's got his personal life all shored up post-divorce and finished 2007 a lot better than he started it.

He also could end up being traded for the 1979 Phillies Bullpen Car and I wouldn't be surprised, either.

TomBradley72
01-04-2008, 04:34 PM
If Swisher, Dye, Crede/Fields, Cabrera, Konerko, Thome and AJ perform at their "typical" career years I'll be happy. Anything from Quentin and Richar will be upside.

If Contreras and either Danks or Floyd DON'T have breakout/comeback years...it will be a long season.

I'll take Contreras...16-10,4.25.

ElevenUp
01-04-2008, 04:37 PM
Josh Fields .280 35HR 85RBI

Optipessimism
01-04-2008, 04:45 PM
Jack Egbert

10+ Wins, ERA < 4.30, WHIP < 1.30.

Either he makes the team and sticks all year because Gavin blows up in ST, or the Sox stay the course with Gavin after he blows up in ST and turn to Jack later.

gogosox16
01-04-2008, 04:47 PM
Jack Egbert

10+ Wins, ERA < 4.30, WHIP < 1.30.

Either he makes the team and sticks all year because Gavin blows up in ST, or the Sox stay the course with Gavin after he blows up in ST and turn to Jack later.
Broadway would have to suck also cause Egber is behind Floyd and Broadway

Optipessimism
01-04-2008, 05:00 PM
Broadway would have to suck also cause Egber is behind Floyd and Broadway
Maybe at the moment, but that's what ST is for. If I had to bet on any one of our young pitchers impressing in ST by throwing strikes, attacking hitters, and limiting walks, I'd bet on Egbert.

DickAllen72
01-04-2008, 05:32 PM
Offensively Carlos Quentin .284 23 homers 79 rbis in 400+ Abs

Pitching NICK MASSETT who re-earns a bullpen slot, throws 47 games with a 3.64 era 4 wins 2 losses 2 saves and becomes a strong 7th inning guy.

I think you're right about Quentin.

I hope you're right about Massett.

LITTLE NELL
01-04-2008, 05:42 PM
Danny Richar---.290BA---10HR--70RBI

Noneck
01-04-2008, 06:05 PM
Jim Thome, he will realize that in order to extend his career, he will learn to slap the ball to left vs. leftys. When they put the shift on.

btrain929
01-04-2008, 06:20 PM
Jim Thome, he will realize that in order to extend his career, he will learn to slap the ball to left vs. leftys. When they put the shift on.

Lay the bunt down, big man.

Or do that slap hit that Pods was messing with last year.

One of those every week can make a huge difference.

SoxNation05
01-04-2008, 06:55 PM
Correct me if wrong.
AVG, HR, RBI

Swisher 269 34 72
Cabrera 284 13 64
Thome 288 36 94
Konerko 268 38 112
Dye 271 32 99
Pierzynski 272 11 65
Fields 259 28 84
Quentin 268 19 68
Richar 301 14 54

raven1
01-04-2008, 07:53 PM
Jerry Owens. Lights up CF in ST, gets the CF job, bats .280 with 45 SB.
With Cabrera hitting behind him, Owens could have a good season at leadoff if he can show some plate discipline & get on base more often. Probably a .270 hitter but could top 50 SB if the Sox really do go back to "small ball".

WhiteSox5187
01-04-2008, 07:57 PM
I'm looking for big things out of John Danks...I'd like to see about fourteen wins with 175+ IP and an ERA in the fours.

delben91
01-04-2008, 08:14 PM
John Danks with an ERA around 4.20 and about 13 or 14 wins.

Danny Richar, .285, 15 HR, 75 RBI

JB98
01-04-2008, 08:17 PM
I'd also go with Danks.

I'm cautiously optimistic about Richar.

WSox597
01-04-2008, 08:40 PM
I'd also go with Danks.

I'm cautiously optimistic about Richar.


I agree on both counts. Danks had a good start last year, before running afoul of our offensively bad offense.

I also think Owens has potential, but I realize I'm in the minority with this opinion.

Daver
01-04-2008, 08:47 PM
Jeremy Reed.

Corlose 15
01-04-2008, 10:20 PM
Correct me if wrong.
AVG, HR, RBI

Swisher 269 34 72
Cabrera 284 13 64
Thome 288 36 94
Konerko 268 38 112
Dye 271 32 99
Pierzynski 272 11 65
Fields 259 28 84
Quentin 268 19 68
Richar 301 14 54

If Swisher hits that many HR I think he has more RBI than that, but it could all depend on where he is in the order. Also, I think Konerko and Quentin's BA are a bit low.

Dr_Comiskey90
01-05-2008, 01:56 AM
Pitching: Danks 14-9 4.12 ERA
Offense: Richar .285 19 HR 85 RBI
Defense: Josh Fields Gold Glove at Third

chisox77
01-05-2008, 09:43 PM
Some guesses from some interesting White Sox players:

Buerhle: 18-9, 3.51
Vasquez: 16-12, 4.04
Contreras: 17-10, 3.97
Danks: 15-9, 4.14
Floyd: 12-10, 4.86

Swisher: 30 HR, 91 RBI, .277
Cabrera: 15 HR, 72 RBI, .301
Fields: 31 HR, 95 RBI, .267
Dye: 33 HR, 88 RBI, .279
Konerko: 37 HR, 104 RBI, .285
Thome: 39 HR, 101 RBI, .288
AJ: 14 HR, 60 RBI, .275
Quentin: 17 HR, 66 RBI, .270
Richar: 14 HR, 54 RBI, .251

Jenks: 47 saves

Linebrink and McDougal will be solid in setup roles. Thornton will be slightly better. Wasserman will be okay.

White Sox surprise with 91 wins.
(I know it's wishful thinking, and I realize this lineup can be tweaked more, including a possible addition of a pitcher, either a reliever or a starter - but the Sox will be more fun to watch, and they will be better, how much? That's why the games are PLAYED ON THE FIELD. I concede nothing to Cleveland or Detroit)


:cool:

Tragg
01-05-2008, 10:02 PM
John Danks with an ERA around 4.20 and about 13 or 14 wins.

Danny Richar, .285, 15 HR, 75 RBI
Richar walked a lot in the minors. I'd like to see him with a .340+ OBP. I'm pretty sure he'll hit at least 15 homers.

johnr1note
01-06-2008, 12:14 AM
I look for Swisher to explode in the "friendly confines" of the Cell. He'll hit .290, and possible get 40-45 HRs.

As for a pitcher, I'll go out on a limb and have Ehren Wasserman as the "feel good" story of the year, going 6-2 in a table setting role with an ERA of under 3.

drewcifer
01-06-2008, 12:27 AM
I look for Swisher to explode in the "friendly confines" of the Cell. He'll hit .290, and possible get 40-45 HRs.

As for a pitcher, I'll go out on a limb and have Ehren Wasserman as the "feel good" story of the year, going 6-2 in a table setting role with an ERA of under 3.

I like your thoughts about Ehren. I like him too. Good stuff. :thumbsup:

On the offensive side - Danny will be the man that rallies us time and time again.

raven1
01-06-2008, 07:28 AM
Some guesses from some interesting White Sox players:

Buerhle: 18-9, 3.51
Vasquez: 16-12, 4.04
Contreras: 17-10, 3.97
Danks: 15-9, 4.14
Floyd: 12-10, 4.86

Swisher: 30 HR, 91 RBI, .277
Cabrera: 15 HR, 72 RBI, .301
Fields: 31 HR, 95 RBI, .267
Dye: 33 HR, 88 RBI, .279
Konerko: 37 HR, 104 RBI, .285
Thome: 39 HR, 101 RBI, .288
AJ: 14 HR, 60 RBI, .275
Quentin: 17 HR, 66 RBI, .270
Richar: 14 HR, 54 RBI, .251

Jenks: 47 saves

Linebrink and McDougal will be solid in setup roles. Thornton will be slightly better. Wasserman will be okay.

White Sox surprise with 91 wins.
(I know it's wishful thinking, and I realize this lineup can be tweaked more, including a possible addition of a pitcher, either a reliever or a starter - but the Sox will be more fun to watch, and they will be better, how much? That's why the games are PLAYED ON THE FIELD. I concede nothing to Cleveland or Detroit)


:cool:
I think this is a realistic assessment of the high end for each of these players - if they all put up these numbers, we win another World Series.
Unfortunately, as we saw last year anyone can have an off year, and the real contenders have enough depth to survive injuries & off-years by at least 3 or 4 players. If 1 or 2 of the starting pitchers have an off year or the bullpen disappoints again, we're done.

veeter
01-06-2008, 11:30 AM
I look for Swisher to explode in the "friendly confines" of the Cell. He'll hit .290, and possible get 40-45 HRs.

As for a pitcher, I'll go out on a limb and have Ehren Wasserman as the "feel good" story of the year, going 6-2 in a table setting role with an ERA of under 3.Best call of the thread, Wasserman. Nice job.

SoxxoS
01-06-2008, 11:53 AM
Wassermann is solid b/c he just gets outs. His peripheral numbers are not all that great, but he gets outs.

For a breakout, I would say Egbert. I honestly believe he is the best prospect out of Danks and Floyd. I love his GB/FO rate around 1.9, b/c it really helps to be a ground ball pitcher at the cell...and he is a big time GB pitcher. I think he is the next "Jon Garland" of the White Sox...solid if not unspectacular, consistent and will win 12-18 games for you for many years. I am really high on him.

sox1970
01-06-2008, 12:22 PM
Wassermann is solid b/c he just gets outs. His peripheral numbers are not all that great, but he gets outs.

For a breakout, I would say Egbert. I honestly believe he is the best prospect out of Danks and Floyd. I love his GB/FO rate around 1.9, b/c it really helps to be a ground ball pitcher at the cell...and he is a big time GB pitcher. I think he is the next "Jon Garland" of the White Sox...solid if not unspectacular, consistent and will win 12-18 games for you for many years. I am really high on him.

I agree with you about Egbert. I hope he's the long man out of the pen this year. Maybe get about 90-100 innings, and replace Contreras next year in the rotation if things fall into place.

turners56
01-06-2008, 01:21 PM
Broadway or Richar. I see Broadway taking over in the 5th spot of the rotation for either Danks or Floyd or maybe even Contreras if one of them were to ever screw us over. So basically Lance will have maybe half or 2/3 of the year to start. And seeing what he did in september last year, I'm predicting...

8-5 and a 3.91 ERA in about 20 starts. If Richar is really what the Sox say he is and plays like it. Ideal year for him is around .280, 10-15 dingers for 50-60 RBI.

SoxxoS
01-06-2008, 01:38 PM
Broadway or Richar. I see Broadway taking over in the 5th spot of the rotation for either Danks or Floyd or maybe even Contreras if one of them were to ever screw us over. So basically Lance will have maybe half or 2/3 of the year to start. And seeing what he did in september last year, I'm predicting...

8-5 and a 3.91 ERA in about 20 starts. If Richar is really what the Sox say he is and plays like it. Ideal year for him is around .280, 10-15 dingers for 50-60 RBI.



If Broadway has under a 4 ERA in 20 starts I will eat my computer... Call me Ms. Cleo, but that is not going to happen. Dont over value that start in September.

Daver
01-06-2008, 01:44 PM
If Broadway has under a 4 ERA in 20 starts I will eat my computer... Call me Ms. Cleo, but that is not going to happen. Dont over value that start in September.

With or without ketchup?



:)

CashMan
01-06-2008, 01:48 PM
If Broadway has under a 4 ERA in 20 starts I will eat my computer... Call me Ms. Cleo, but that is not going to happen. Dont over value that start in September.


Considering, Floyd is out of options, and I do not see Danks going down, and Ozzie LOVES Jose, and I would say if someone gets hurt, Masset joins the rotation, so I don't think you will have to eat it.

batmanZoSo
01-06-2008, 01:49 PM
Fields and Wasser-mann will be the man (men).

turners56
01-06-2008, 01:51 PM
Considering, Floyd is out of options, and I do not see Danks going down, and Ozzie LOVES Jose, and I would say if someone gets hurt, Masset joins the rotation, so I don't think you will have to eat it.

He loved him enough to put him in the bullpen last year. If he sucks, Ozzie will have no choice.

SoxxoS
01-06-2008, 01:55 PM
Considering, Floyd is out of options, and I do not see Danks going down, and Ozzie LOVES Jose, and I would say if someone gets hurt, Masset joins the rotation, so I don't think you will have to eat it.

Masset is horrible...if he is counted on at all this year (he is a LOOGY guy at ABSOLUTE BEST) we are in huge trouble. Broadway is average at best and Masset is bad. I hope they both aren't on the 25 man. Broadway has a slight chance to be decent.

Save McCuddy's
01-06-2008, 01:55 PM
Swisher -- no doubt. .280 with 40 Hr's.

gogosox16
01-06-2008, 02:01 PM
Swisher -- no doubt. .280 with 40 Hr's.
second that

ChiSoxPatF
01-07-2008, 02:40 PM
I've drank the Swisher and Quentin cool-aid.

Swisher .285, 33HR (RBI's contingent on where he bats in the order)
Quentin .275, 24HR, 75 RBI

While I'd prefer to see some speed leadoff, the offense is NOT going to be the achilles' heel of this team.

Now if I could only say that about the pitching...

jenn2080
01-07-2008, 03:37 PM
I jumped on the Swisher bandwagon.

BadBobbyJenks
01-07-2008, 04:07 PM
Anybody have Richar's winterball stats? Last time I heard anything, I thought he was hitting around 220 or so.

EndemicSox
01-07-2008, 04:42 PM
The team really needs Floyd to live up to his potential, but I don't think it is likely.

I think Quentin realizes some of his potential, and fits the breakout mold, assuming he is healthy come spring, of course.

SoxNation05
01-07-2008, 04:48 PM
The team really needs Floyd to live up to his potential, but I don't think it is likely.

I think Quentin realizes some of his potential, and fits the breakout mold, assuming he is healthy come spring, of course.
Floyd's potential= Jon Garland

rdwj
01-07-2008, 05:04 PM
Brian Anderson

.270 BA, 18 HR, 75 RBI

SoxNation05
01-07-2008, 05:12 PM
Brian Anderson

.270 BA, 18 HR, 75 RBI
.70 1 HR 7 RBI

SoxxoS
01-07-2008, 05:38 PM
.70 1 HR 7 RBI

In 300 at bats...and the one homer was because a sick child asked him NOT to hit a homer for him, ala a bizarro version that Paul O'Neill Seinfeld episode.

nccwsfan
01-07-2008, 07:57 PM
Pitching
http://images.sportsline.com/images/baseball/mlb/players/60x80/538912.jpg


Lineup
http://images.sportsline.com/images/baseball/mlb/players/60x80/546044.jpg

I'm hopeful that he can post a .350 OBP or better in 2008.

BadBobbyJenks
01-07-2008, 08:06 PM
For anyone who cares I found the winter ball stats. Richar was not impressive.


He hit .218 in 78 at bats, with an obp of .256, 3 walks, 18 ks, 0 homeruns, 7 rbis and 2 steals.
http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ibp&sid=l131&cid=668

johnnyg83
01-07-2008, 08:06 PM
In 300 at bats...and the one homer was because a sick child asked him NOT to hit a homer for him, ala a bizarro version that Paul O'Neill Seinfeld episode.

http://pbfcomics.com/archive_b/PBF150-A_Hit_for_Bobby.gif

I thought this was the bizarro version.

whitesoxfan1986
01-07-2008, 09:22 PM
Floyd's potential= Jon Garland
Are you saying that he'll never have an ERA below 4 except in his career year? So his potential is an average of 14-11 4.40 ERA 110 K per season? I disagree. I think his potential is a #2 type guy. Whether he ever gets there is a different story.

SoxxoS
01-07-2008, 09:25 PM
Are you saying that he'll never have an ERA below 4 except in his career year? So his potential is an average of 14-11 4.40 ERA 110 K per season? I disagree. I think his potential is a #2 type guy. Whether he ever gets there is a different story.

His minor league numbers are actually similar to Garland - Not that high of K's..good H/9 as well as control, all at an early age. I would say Garland is a great comparison.

balke
01-08-2008, 10:30 AM
Masset is horrible...if he is counted on at all this year (he is a LOOGY guy at ABSOLUTE BEST) we are in huge trouble. Broadway is average at best and Masset is bad. I hope they both aren't on the 25 man. Broadway has a slight chance to be decent.

Masset was horrible so far, but the guy throws 100 at the age of 25. A couple years from now, who knows? I'm not against giving him a second chance if he shows improvement in AAA and the Sox need him.

billcissell
01-08-2008, 02:11 PM
I took a look into my crystal ball and came up with these "brreakout" predictions for '08:

Floyd will get off to a miserable beginning as the #5 starter and blow out his arm in late May. Sox will call up Masset and insert him as their #5. He will do a commendable job, posting a 9-5 mark and a 4.43 era.

AJ will be slowed by nagging injuries during the summer and a healthy Toby Hall will fill in admirably, hitting a robust .276 and contributing some timely defensive gems.

RowanDye
01-08-2008, 02:17 PM
I took a look into my crystal ball and came up with these "brreakout" predictions for '08:

Floyd will get off to a miserable beginning as the #5 starter and blow out his arm in late May. Sox will call up Masset and insert him as their #5. He will do a commendable job, posting a 9-5 mark and a 4.43 era.

AJ will be slowed by nagging injuries during the summer and a healthy Toby Hall will fill in admirably, hitting a robust .276 and contributing some timely defensive gems.

boo

SoxNation05
01-08-2008, 03:34 PM
Are you saying that he'll never have an ERA below 4 except in his career year? So his potential is an average of 14-11 4.40 ERA 110 K per season? I disagree. I think his potential is a #2 type guy. Whether he ever gets there is a different story.
Jon Garland is a number 2 guy. Jon Garland went 14-11 4.4 one season. He also had two straight seasons winning 18 games in a hitters park.

Milkman43
01-09-2008, 06:01 PM
Danny Richar is going to give White Sox fans a thrill...just wait

JermaineDye05
10-01-2008, 12:36 AM
John Danks

12-9

3.95 ERA


I could also see...

Scott Linebrink

5-1

2.95 ERA

Dang I was close...:cool:

The Milkman
10-01-2008, 08:39 AM
gavin floyd

9-17 5.65 era

best year of his career.

:d: