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jabrch
12-26-2007, 12:21 PM
http://www.rotoworld.com/images/pixel.gifRoger Clemens' lead attorney said Tuesday night that his firm has begun its own investigation into allegations that link Clemens to the use of steroids and human growth hormone.

"We are convinced the conclusions in Mitchell’s report are wrong and are investigating the findings ourselves," said Rusty Hardin. "At this stage we have uncovered a lot of logical people who we thought Mitchell was going to talk to but never talked to him or his investigators. That’s troubling."
Source: New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/26/sports/baseball/27clemens.html)

Rumor has it he has contracted the same people that OJ used to help search for Nicole's killers.

This guy is so full of crap. If he were really not guilty, he'd be defending himself somewhere other than on You Tube and Rogerclemens.com.

thegooch
12-26-2007, 12:40 PM
What a crock. I'm sure all his teammates will defend him.

kittle42
12-26-2007, 12:58 PM
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Rumor has it he has contracted the same people that OJ used to help search for Nicole's killers.

This was the first thing I thought of when I saw the title of the thread.

soxfanatlanta
12-26-2007, 01:02 PM
This was the first thing I thought of when I saw the title of the thread.

Cannot wait for the DVD.

jabrch
12-26-2007, 01:09 PM
Can't wait til Clemens' book - "If I Hired Someone to Shoot HGH In My Tush, Here's How I Would Have Done It"

Rocky Soprano
12-26-2007, 01:14 PM
Can't wait til Clemens' book - "If I Hired Someone to Shoot HGH In My Tush, Here's How I Would Have Done It"

Post of The Year!

:D:

Fenway
12-26-2007, 02:19 PM
Mitchell invited Roger to offer evidence or simply say he did not do what was said.

HE DID NOT

angiew
12-26-2007, 07:50 PM
Mitchell invited Roger to offer evidence or simply say he did not do what was said.

HE DID NOT

Exactly! He's know for a very long time that his name was going to show up in the report but he chose to hide his head instead of facing it or cooperating. OMG this guy is really pissing me off!!:angry: If he's so damned innocent why isn't he suing someone for defamation or libel?? All his horse**** denials are just digging a deeper grave for his sorry ass IMO.

kevin57
12-26-2007, 10:58 PM
My thoughts percisely!

Go ahead, Roger. Make a lot of people's day. File suit.

Oh, what's that? The sound of depositions being taken?

Aw, don't tell me you're afraid, little boy. All your buddies in the big bad league are gonna get mad at you for airing their dirty laundry?

:angry:

gf2020
12-26-2007, 11:18 PM
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This guy is so full of crap. If he were really not guilty, he'd be defending himself somewhere other than on You Tube and Rogerclemens.com.
Yeah, like 60 Minutes...

chaerulez
12-26-2007, 11:49 PM
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Rumor has it he has contracted the same people that OJ used to help search for Nicole's killers.


If that is really true, it's pretty ironic.

At least OJ is finally going to jail, reality is aside from possibly not getting into the HOF, Clemens probably won't have any other fallouts from this... he won't go to jail, forced to pay a fine, his records and Cy Youngs are still official.

jabrch
12-27-2007, 12:04 AM
If that is really true, it's pretty ironic.

Just to be clear - no it is not.

TornLabrum
12-27-2007, 06:04 AM
Just to be clear - no it is not.

And this is why people use teal.

dakuda
12-27-2007, 08:03 AM
Exactly! He's know for a very long time that his name was going to show up in the report but he chose to hide his head instead of facing it or cooperating. OMG this guy is really pissing me off!!:angry: If he's so damned innocent why isn't he suing someone for defamation or libel?? All his horse**** denials are just digging a deeper grave for his sorry ass IMO.


That is the only way to clear it up. Sue and win. No lawsuit = he cannot win.

Frontman
12-27-2007, 08:18 AM
http://www.james.lipsit.com/Homeauto/smoke.jpghttp://www.umpi.maine.edu/info/nmms/Images/nickieatmirror.jpg

Pretty much what this is. Just smoke and mirrors.

"PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE NEEDLE!!!!"

TwinKess
12-27-2007, 09:02 AM
If that is really true, it's pretty ironic.

At least OJ is finally going to jail, reality is aside from possibly not getting into the HOF, Clemens probably won't have any other fallouts from this... he won't go to jail, forced to pay a fine, his records and Cy Youngs are still official.


He will lose endorsements. He currently makes $3m a year. The cellphone commercial has already stopped running.

AZChiSoxFan
12-27-2007, 09:51 AM
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Rumor has it he has contracted the same people that OJ used to help search for Nicole's killers.



:rolling:

RKMeibalane
12-27-2007, 12:23 PM
This was the first thing I thought of when I saw the title of the thread.

Same here. If Clemens really thinks people are going to buy this, he's out of his mind. Then again, ESPN will probably want to televise his investigation while waiting for Spring Training to start.

voodoochile
12-27-2007, 12:54 PM
I wonder if he'll still announce the results when it turns out the guy who caused his name to be smeared was none other than himself when he decided to use steroids?

Fenway
12-27-2007, 01:06 PM
I wonder if he'll still announce the results when it turns out the guy who caused his name to be smeared was none other than himself when he decided to use steroids?

CBS is fishing......they have requested and received from NESN tapes of every Clemens start in 1996. ( entire game footage )

The only thing we can see is that from the All Star break on his fastball jumped back to 95-97 from 90-92 earlier that year.

spiffie
12-27-2007, 02:52 PM
Clemens has brought in a very respected man with experience in enforcing the law to investigate this...

http://www.gonemovies.com/WWW/Drama/Drama/CasablancaRenaultRick_sm.jpg

Fenway
12-27-2007, 03:05 PM
Clemens has brought in a very respected man with experience in enforcing the law to investigate this...


Clemens has also hired a former LA cop who once umpired in the majors.

http://www.worstpreviews.com/images/superhero.gif

"Mrs. McNamee, your son is a ruthless, cold-blooded, sadistic animal. You must be proud of him." -- Lt. Frank Drebin, on the case for Clemens...

Nellie_Fox
12-28-2007, 12:29 AM
I was expecting one of the lawyers to wade in on this, but libel suits are very difficult for a public figure to win. Unlike a private citizen, a public figure must prove that the other party acted with a reckless disregard for the truth, not just acted erroneously. In other words, he would have to prove that the other party knew it was not true but published it anyway. An almost impossible burden of proof. Note the "almost."

thomas35forever
12-28-2007, 12:46 AM
Anyone seen this video? Pretty funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P579ZYXArb8

Fenway
12-28-2007, 12:39 PM
Mike Lupica has had enough of Roger....

We get the Landis defense now from Roger Clemens, which means blaming everyone else. Read more (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2007/12/28/2007-12-28_roger_clemens_wants_to_blame_everyone_el-3.html)


We get the Floyd Landis defense now from Roger Clemens, which means putting everybody else on trial. Maybe it will work out better for Clemens than it did for Landis. Maybe Clemens will still make it to Cooperstown, make all the money you can make as a Hall of Famer, because there is no positive drug test on him the way there was on Landis. At least not one that we know about.

StillMissOzzie
12-30-2007, 02:51 AM
or these guys...
http://www.clown-ministry.com/images/three-stooges-detective-tie.jpg
or...
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/CLASS/130-224.jpg

Paulwny
01-03-2008, 11:48 AM
From the NY Times:
Roger Clemens (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/c/roger_clemens/index.html?inline=nyt-per) will face a lawsuit if he says in a “60 Minutes” interview that his former personal trainer, Brian McNamee, was not truthful when he said he injected Clemens with performance-enhancing drugs, a lawyer hired by McNamee said Wednesday.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/03/sports/baseball/03clemens.html?_r=1&ref=sports&oref=slogin

Tekijawa
01-03-2008, 12:20 PM
When all is said and done, Clemens will not have broken any MLB rules, steroids were not illegal in MLB at the time, he will still have a hot wife and will have set his family up with a nice little nest egg for generations... I don't understand the fuss.. let's move on!

bigfoot
01-03-2008, 04:08 PM
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:9VCKlXFQFgsZnM:http://www.palmbeachpost.com/shared-blogs/palmbeach/swan/OJ_If_I_Did_It.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.palmbeachpost.com/shared-blogs/palmbeach/swan/OJ_If_I_Did_It.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.palmbeachpost.com/literarydiva&h=497&w=328&sz=33&hl=en&start=18&tbnid=9VCKlXFQFgsZnM:&tbnh=130&tbnw=86&prev=/images%3Fq%3Doj%2Bsimpson%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%2 6hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG)

"Roger will use the same ghostwriter as I did for this bit-o-fiction.
The picture will have to be editted, but it would be a shame to waste the fine graphics of this cover. Thanks Roger, hope the private investigators I sent you found out more than they did for me. I'm still looking, too. Mostly in the jails and golf courses that I've called home, lately."

xoxoxoxo the Juice:gulp::gulp::gulp:

Frontman
01-03-2008, 04:22 PM
When all is said and done, Clemens will not have broken any MLB rules, steroids were not illegal in MLB at the time, he will still have a hot wife and will have set his family up with a nice little nest egg for generations... I don't understand the fuss.. let's move on!

Just ignore the laws of the land, as Bud Selig is more powerful than senators, presidents, and law enforcment.

I still want to see the White Sox install a kidnapping support team, so they can kidnap visiting teams Ace pitchers, SINCE KIDNAPPING ISN'T AGAINST MLB RULES!!!!!

RockyMtnSoxFan
01-03-2008, 04:25 PM
When all is said and done, Clemens will not have broken any MLB rules, steroids were not illegal in MLB at the time ...

That's not entirely true. It wasn't part of the agreement between the players' union and MLB, but it was against baseball policy. Starting in the early 90's, the commissioner (I forget who) stated that steroids were against the rules, and Selig later reiterated this. Also, they were illegal at the time by federal standards.

Lots of people say that steroids were not banned prior to 2003, but that is not true. It just wasn't part of the bargaining agreement.

RockyMtnSoxFan
01-03-2008, 04:33 PM
On another tidbit of Clemens info, apparently (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3179745) in the "60 Minutes" interview he claims that McNamee injected him with Lidocaine and B-12.

I looked them up, and Lidocaine is used as a topical anasthetic and also to relieve itching. B-12 is important for the nervous system and cell reproduction; a deficiency can lead to anemia. According to Clemens, however, they help his joints. I wonder if he uses the same B-12 injections as Miguel Tejada and Rafael Palmeiro.

I can't believe what an arrogant jerk this guy is. He seems to think he is above the rules, and deserves to have special treatment. I think he and his lawyers realized that this is going to be a battle of one man's word against another's, and they decided to bet the farm that Clemens's reputation will supersede McNamee's.

FireMariotti
01-03-2008, 08:00 PM
Clemens : B12 :: Bonds : Flaxseed oil