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Sockinchisox
12-20-2007, 10:46 PM
Grimsley's list came out today and he stated Sosa used amphetamines.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/21/sports/baseball/21mitchell.html?_r=2&ref=sports&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

The sentence about Sosa recounts a conversation Grimsley said he had in 2005 with Sosa, Tejada and Palmeiro, who were his Orioles (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/sports/baseball/majorleague/baltimoreorioles/index.html?inline=nyt-org) teammates at the time. “Grimsley stated that the topic of the conversation among the four was how they were going to play the baseball season next year when Major League Baseball banned the use of amphetamines and began testing for them,” Novitzky wrote.

cws05champ
12-20-2007, 10:55 PM
The Department of Justice has unsealed two affidavits by a federal agent concerning people involved with performance-enhancing drugs in baseball, identifying four more current or former players, including the home run slugger Sammy Sosa (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/sammy_sosa/index.html?inline=nyt-per), who may have used the drugs.


Uh oh...maybe Sammy won't come out scott clean after all....

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/21/sports/baseball/21mitchell.html?_r=2&ref=sports&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

rdwj
12-20-2007, 11:10 PM
Woo hoo!

:bandance::bandance::bandance::bandance::bandance: :bandance::bandance::bandance:

thomas35forever
12-20-2007, 11:16 PM
:praying:
Please be true.

voodoochile
12-20-2007, 11:20 PM
Grimsley's list came out today and he stated Sosa used steroids.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/21/sports/baseball/21mitchell.html?_r=2&ref=sports&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

No, the discussion centered around amphetamines. Sosa was not linked to steroid use in that article or by Grimsley's affidavit.

Lip Man 1
12-21-2007, 02:43 AM
Apparently so, along with three others players not named in the Mitchell report:

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-071220sosagrimsleyamphetaminesnewyorktimes,1,75023 61.story?coll=cs-home-headlines

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TDog
12-21-2007, 03:45 AM
No, the discussion centered around amphetamines. Sosa was not linked to steroid use in that article or by Grimsley's affidavit.

Not that I'm Sosa obsessed, but you have to wonder if someone whose physique underwent such change would have put work into body building while otherwise cheating by taking amphetamines and corking his bat.

kevin57
12-21-2007, 06:06 AM
As information alternatively dribbles and cascades out, it will be interesting to see how various bodies spin things or move on things. For instance, will Uncle Bud and the owners do anything meaningful? Will Congree wait for MLB to act or will they pounce on the scandal? Will the Players Association just sit back and wait until someone does something, just so they can file suits? The action - reaction of this mess will be very interesting to watch.

misty60481
12-21-2007, 06:32 AM
When I was a teen-ager ( over 50 yrs. ago ) I worked at a paper mill dock unloading trucks were the truck drivers came in with as they called "bennies" they used to take them to stay awake. I thought they were considered amphetamines and some of the people used to use them to lose weight. Are they an appetite deppresent ? If so how did the ball players get so big taking them ?

Jaffar
12-21-2007, 09:34 AM
Not defending Shammy but this article is not the smoking gun about his roid/HGH use.

Maybe not, but it's the gateway drug... half teal.

voodoochile
12-21-2007, 10:10 AM
When I was a teen-ager ( over 50 yrs. ago ) I worked at a paper mill dock unloading trucks were the truck drivers came in with as they called "bennies" they used to take them to stay awake. I thought they were considered amphetamines and some of the people used to use them to lose weight. Are they an appetite deppresent ? If so how did the ball players get so big taking them ?

All stimulants are appetite suppressants. But only when you are actually on them. If a player were to only take them during game times then he would be free to be hungry at other times.

In addition, just because your body isn't hungry doesn't mean you can't eat, you just don't feel like eating.

Alternatively, maybe they had Zito on speed dial...

Jerko
12-21-2007, 11:03 AM
Pete Incaviglia, that should have been a no-brainer. I forgot all about that guy. I had my suspicions about him when he hit a ball THROUGH a wall once.......