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SoxNation05
12-13-2007, 06:30 PM
Who is your favorite presently playing closer? NOT INCLUDING BOBBY JENKS.

SoxNation05
12-13-2007, 06:30 PM
Mines K-Rod of the Angels I love his intesity mixed with his nasty stuff.

DumpJerry
12-13-2007, 06:32 PM
Mariano. The White Sox own that guy!

getonbckthr
12-13-2007, 06:36 PM
Papelbon, the kid just loves the game.

santo=dorf
12-13-2007, 06:37 PM
Mariano. The White Sox own that guy!
:tealpolice: (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/5400/splits;_ylt=AjVTiatOCwMUZuv06oy5zj.FCLcF?year=care er&type=Pitching)

DSpivack
12-13-2007, 06:46 PM
Chad Cordero just looks so funny with that hat.

TheCommander
12-13-2007, 07:05 PM
Kyra Sedgwick

Daver
12-13-2007, 07:08 PM
http://www.e-hardware.co.uk/acatalog/mini-JD200SSS.jpg

WhiteSoxJunkie
12-13-2007, 07:21 PM
Trevor Hoffman

ndgt10
12-13-2007, 07:33 PM
valverde

DumpJerry
12-13-2007, 07:43 PM
Mariano. The White Sox own that guy!

:tealpolice: (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/5400/splits;_ylt=AjVTiatOCwMUZuv06oy5zj.FCLcF?year=care er&type=Pitching)
Why the teal police? 1/3 of his blown saves in '06 were in our games (there would have been one more if the ump called the balk while we had the tying run on Third). He did not do too well against us last year, either.

santo=dorf
12-13-2007, 07:49 PM
Why the teal police? 1/3 of his blown saves in '06 were in our games (there would have been one more if the ump called the balk while we had the tying run on Third). He did not do too well against us last year, either.Click the picture.
Career against White Sox: 1.38 ERA, .84 WHIP
Only the Tigers, Twins and Devil Rays have had a harder time hitting him.
But go ahead and keep thinking we own him. :rolleyes:

sodfatherjunior
12-13-2007, 09:15 PM
Chalk another vote up there for Trevor Hoffman......to put it simply, he's the best ever and coming out to Hell's Bells is classic.

FarWestChicago
12-13-2007, 09:18 PM
Click the picture.
Career against White Sox: 1.38 ERA, .84 WHIP
Only the Tigers, Twins and Devil Rays have had a harder time hitting him.
But go ahead and keep thinking we own him. :rolleyes:Blame it on El Caballo. :D:

CubsfansareDRUNK
12-13-2007, 09:20 PM
shingo

Brian26
12-13-2007, 09:29 PM
Papelbon, the kid just loves the game.

And Joe Buck loves the kid.

Brian26
12-13-2007, 09:30 PM
Why the teal police? 1/3 of his blown saves in '06 were in our games (there would have been one more if the ump called the balk while we had the tying run on Third). He did not do too well against us last year, either.

Through 2006, Konerko owned one of only three walk-off homers ever off Rivera. Didn't the Sox come back against him at Yankee Stadium in '05 in that day game? I think you've got a case, counselor.

Edit- I believe Rivera gave up a walk-off to Scutaro in '07...not sure on that though.

JB98
12-13-2007, 09:37 PM
Through 2006, Konerko owned one of only three walk-off homers ever off Rivera. Didn't the Sox come back against him at Yankee Stadium in '05 in that day game? I think you've got a case, counselor.

Edit- I believe Rivera gave up a walk-off to Scutaro in '07...not sure on that though.

Uribe hit a triple off Rivera in that '05 day game IIRC. I don't think it was a comeback by the Sox. The game was tied, and they scored the go-ahead run off Rivera.

I'm talking off the top of my head here, but that's my recollection.

Paulwny
12-13-2007, 09:58 PM
Click the picture.
Career against White Sox: 1.38 ERA, .84 WHIP
Only the Tigers, Twins and Devil Rays have had a harder time hitting him.
But go ahead and keep thinking we own him. :rolleyes:


Yep, toss in 33 life time saves vs the sox and a .190 batting ave against him

chisox77
12-13-2007, 10:12 PM
Brad Lidge


:cool:

drewcifer
12-13-2007, 10:21 PM
Click the picture.
Career against White Sox: 1.38 ERA, .84 WHIP
Only the Tigers, Twins and Devil Rays have had a harder time hitting him.
But go ahead and keep thinking we own him. :rolleyes:

:rolleyes: on you.

When will you stop applying SP stats on closers and RPs? Ever?



Rivera was a dominant CLOSER in his prime, yes. He pitches 1,....maybe 1.5 goddamn innings. ERA and WHIP and just about every other SP stat is PROJECTED for that role. How often do you think he had to CLOSE against the Devil Rays and Tigers in his career?????

Clown.

Embarassing.

chisoxmike
12-13-2007, 11:02 PM
Click the picture.
Career against White Sox: 1.38 ERA, .84 WHIP
Only the Tigers, Twins and Devil Rays have had a harder time hitting him.
But go ahead and keep thinking we own him. :rolleyes:


Just like we own Detroit the past two years!



:rolleyes:

soxfan26
12-13-2007, 11:10 PM
My vote goes to the Committee.

goofymsfan
12-13-2007, 11:52 PM
Trevor Hoffman and JJ Putz

soxfanreggie
12-13-2007, 11:59 PM
Hoffman

JUribe1989
12-14-2007, 12:13 AM
By year
-Mr. Zero in '04
-Dustin Hermanson in '05
-Aki Otsuka in '06
-Chad Cordero in '07

CWSpalehoseCWS
12-14-2007, 12:18 AM
K-Rod, even though I hate that team.

Sockinchisox
12-14-2007, 12:24 AM
Saito, Just filthy stuff.

Honorable mention: Manny Corpas.

Zisk77
12-14-2007, 12:36 AM
Ryan Dempster...when he pitches to A.J. :cool:

drewcifer
12-14-2007, 01:08 AM
I pick K-Rod.

I have a gut feeling Papelbon is going to get pounded this year.

TDog
12-14-2007, 04:32 AM
Wilbur Wood.

santo=dorf
12-14-2007, 06:33 AM
:rolleyes: on you.

When will you stop applying SP stats on closers and RPs? Ever?



Rivera was a dominant CLOSER in his prime, yes. He pitches 1,....maybe 1.5 goddamn innings. ERA and WHIP and just about every other SP stat is PROJECTED for that role. How often do you think he had to CLOSE against the Devil Rays and Tigers in his career?????

Clown.

Embarassing.
Nice analysis. :rolleyes:
.190 BAA. Get a grip.

Considering Mariano almost always starts an inning, ERA is fine to use for him. How about a career 4.85 K/BB or 2 home runs given up in 71.2 innings?

Thought so. :dtroll:

kraut83
12-14-2007, 08:55 AM
It's got to be Trevor Hoffman.

I kinda like Todd Jones as well. I watch too many Tiger games though, so maybe it's the drama he always seems to add to the 9th when he comes in. :D:

veeter
12-14-2007, 09:48 AM
:thumbsup:Ryan Dempster...when he pitches to A.J. :cool:

Taliesinrk
12-14-2007, 10:58 AM
Nice analysis. :rolleyes:
.190 BAA. Get a grip.

Considering Mariano almost always starts an inning, ERA is fine to use for him. How about a career 4.85 K/BB or 2 home runs given up in 71.2 innings?

Thought so. :dtroll:

I'm not trying to get into this, but are those numbers vs. the White Sox? All I know is that, comparatively to the rest of baseball (besides the walk-off Oakland hit last year down the left field line), the Sox have had a disproportionate amount of success vs. Rivera.

Paulwny
12-14-2007, 01:02 PM
I'm not trying to get into this, but are those numbers vs. the White Sox? All I know is that, comparatively to the rest of baseball (besides the walk-off Oakland hit last year down the left field line), the Sox have had a disproportionate amount of success vs. Rivera.


Stats ~ in the middle of this link.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/5400/splits;_ylt=AllkWnecL51pjMhibO3.ODyFCLcF?year=care er&type=Pitching

Chez
12-14-2007, 01:51 PM
Rich Gossage.

skobabe8
12-14-2007, 04:56 PM
Ryan Dempster...when he pitches to A.J. :cool:

http://mlb.mlb.com/images/2006/07/01/fOhCniPF.jpg

santo=dorf
12-14-2007, 05:01 PM
I'm not trying to get into this, but are those numbers vs. the White Sox? All I know is that, comparatively to the rest of baseball (besides the walk-off Oakland hit last year down the left field line), the Sox have had a disproportionate amount of success vs. Rivera.Look at the link in the picture. The Sox don't hit Rivera. That game in 2006 was a once in awhile occurrence.

He gave up three runs yet his ERA is less than 1.50. Think about how many scoreless innings he had against us to keep it that low. The Sox don't "own" him at all, unless you are talking about the Red Sox.

russ99
12-14-2007, 05:09 PM
Fave current non-Jenks: Mariano Rivera. I know as Sox fans we're conditioned to hate the Yankes (at least I was a a very young age) but he's amazing.

Past Sox closer: Bobby Thigpen, though I was also a big fan of Shingo.

Blast From the Past: Al Hrabowski. Gotta love the Mad Hungarian. Too bad I missed out on all the Rollie Fingers fun in the early 70s. Not enough characters in the game these days, unlike the late 70s/early 80s. Or was it all the coke...

I'm also partial to Billy Wagner in his prime with the Astros.

VenturaFan23
12-14-2007, 05:28 PM
I kinda like Todd Jones as well. I watch too many Tiger games though, so maybe it's the drama he always seems to add to the 9th when he comes in. :D:

I like him as well. His blown save with the Marlins back in '05 allowed me to win my fantasy baseball world series. My friend who I played against STILL hates his guts :D:

MeteorsSox4367
12-14-2007, 05:31 PM
Al Hrabosky was one of my favs when I was a kid. I got his autograph at a Sox-Royals game and he signed it "Psyche Up, Al Hrabosky, the Mad Hungarian." Awesome.

Currently, I like Hoffman, Cordero and anyone who can get three outs against the unconscious Cubs in the ninth.