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StepsInSC
12-13-2007, 07:52 AM
Instead of making a thread about a single one, here's the list of non-tenders:

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071212&content_id=2324311&vkey=hotstove2007&fext=.jsp&partnered=rss_mlb

Biggest surprise to me was Otsuka. He's been quite the pitcher for 2 years now, although he's recovering from an elbow injury.

DumpJerry
12-13-2007, 08:16 AM
Willie Harris is on the list.




Where's Bafia?

soxinem1
12-13-2007, 08:18 AM
Biggest surprise to me was Otsuka. He's been quite the pitcher for 2 years now, although he's recovering from an elbow injury.

There will be a lot of teams thinking about him, but last I read there was talk of reconstructive elbow surgery being a possibility. He was off half the season and his arm still hurts.

TEX has been stupid with a lot of pitching decisions, but this might be a safe bet for them.

the1tab
12-13-2007, 08:46 AM
Dallas McPherson intrigues me. Remember when he was Howie Kendrick in 2005? The untouchable prospect that the Yankees couldn't pry away with anything? LOL.

I wouldn't mind seeing McPherson on the South Side. He would probably come cheap and has something to prove.

pierzynski07
12-13-2007, 09:56 AM
Dallas McPherson intrigues me. Remember when he was Howie Kendrick in 2005? The untouchable prospect that the Yankees couldn't pry away with anything? LOL.

I wouldn't mind seeing McPherson on the South Side. He would probably come cheap and has something to prove.
As a 3rd basemen, right?

veeter
12-13-2007, 10:03 AM
I like Emil Brown.

colles9
12-13-2007, 10:10 AM
I posted this in "Whats the Score" but what would be the problem with getting Jason Tyner? .286/.331/.355 in 118 games in '07. Has played all 3 OF positions and only K'ed 26 times last season in 304 AB.

AZChiSoxFan
12-13-2007, 10:15 AM
Instead of making a thread about a single one, here's the list of non-tenders:

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071212&content_id=2324311&vkey=hotstove2007&fext=.jsp&partnered=rss_mlb

Biggest surprise to me was Otsuka. He's been quite the pitcher for 2 years now, although he's recovering from an elbow injury.

Two players on that list that I find interesting:

1) Dallas McPherson. I seem to remember a few years ago that the Halos were reluctant to include him in any deal because he was "can't miss." What's that old saying about a bird in the hand? Does that translate to "A player already in the majors is worth......"

2) Johnny Estrada. The stupid Mets just traded for the guy THIS off season!

asindc
12-13-2007, 10:21 AM
I like Emil Brown.

So do I. I'm also intrigued with McPherson and Otsaka.

HawkDJ
12-13-2007, 10:23 AM
Two players on that list that I find interesting:

1) Dallas McPherson. I seem to remember a few years ago that the Halos were reluctant to include him in any deal because he was "can't miss." What's that old saying about a bird in the hand? Does that translate to "A player already in the majors is worth......"

2) Johnny Estrada. The stupid Mets just traded for the guy THIS off season!


I guess that's how bad the Mets wanted to get rid of Guillermo Mota.

santo=dorf
12-13-2007, 10:24 AM
I posted this in "Whats the Score" but what would be the problem with getting Jason Tyner? .286/.331/.355 in 118 games in '07. Has played all 3 OF positions and only K'ed 26 times last season in 304 AB.
Right there. Enough of the grinder, Ozzie-type, free swinging, slasher, garbage.

colles9
12-13-2007, 10:27 AM
Right there. Enough of the grinder, Ozzie-type, free swinging, slasher, garbage.

So how is he a free swinger????? He is also a left handed bat in the lineup. OH, and also has taken most of his AB at the #1 spot. You realize that his last years stats he would have had the HIGHEST BA, and 6th in OBP. PLUS, he had less strike outs than anyone on the team excluding (Crede, Ozuna, Hall, Anderson, Sweeny, and Lucy) all that did not play more than 47 games!

For only $400K for someone that can play 2/3 of a season, it seems to me to be a logical move for a Starting or 4th OF. Especially since Quinton is not going to be at Spring Training due to the shoulder. Hell, start him at LF until Quinton gets back.

santo=dorf
12-13-2007, 10:34 AM
So how is he a free swinger????? He is also a left handed bat in the lineup. OH, and also has taken most of his AB at the #1 spot.
He doesn't walk or strike out, and last year his 3.46 pitches/plate appearances ranked him 249th out of 280 players with at least 300 PA's. Had enough yet? :?: His spot in the batting order means little, of course the leadoff is supposed to work the count and see as many pitches as possible. Tyner doesn't do that.

If he's so good, why did the Twins release him?

Comparing his rank to the rotten 2007 squad means absolutley nothing.

cbrownson13
12-13-2007, 10:43 AM
I also think we should look at Kiko Calero. He had a down year due to injuries, but has been a solid American League reliever for a few years now.

PalehosePlanet
12-13-2007, 10:53 AM
Dallas McPherson has had major back surgery twice, I believe. There is a reason the Angels, who need a third baseman, did not tender him.

Otsuka and Calero, if healthy, would be a nice addition to our pen.

Matt Wise should also be considered.

In fact, with the addition of 2 of these three RP's, a rebound from Macdougal and Thornton, and the addition of Linebrink, could jump us quickly to one of the best bullpens in the game.

BTW: Jason Tyner is just flat out terrible; NO THANK YOU!!!

BadBobbyJenks
12-13-2007, 11:16 AM
Otsuka did a very good job closing just two years ago with the rangers, that surprises me.
Whats the extent of his injury?

WSox597
12-13-2007, 01:05 PM
I see Miguel Olivo is on the list. Backup catcher?

Morgan Ensberg was also on the list.

russ99
12-13-2007, 01:10 PM
I see Miguel Olivo is on the list. Backup catcher?

Morgan Ensberg was also on the list.

Ensberg is horrible, he's constantly fidgeting with his swing.

The ex-Astro the Sox may have a look at is Jason Lane. He's pretty decent and could do well with a change of scenery.

He could also add another power bat into the mix for LF.

As for Adam Everett, good luck to the Twins on that. The Astros non-tendered him due to concerns he's lost a step defensively after his broken leg his season.

Lip Man 1
12-13-2007, 04:05 PM
Knowing the Twins Everett will probably hit .320 this season.

Lip

BadBobbyJenks
12-13-2007, 04:20 PM
everett is considered one of the top defensive shortstops in the game, not sure how much luck they need with that....

RockyMtnSoxFan
12-13-2007, 04:33 PM
Nook Logan might have a hard time finding a job, with the fact that his name just came out on The List. Plus he sucks.

russ99
12-13-2007, 04:35 PM
everett is considered one of the top defensive shortstops in the game, not sure how much luck they need with that....

Yeah, but he's a horrid hitter, and if he can't field he's useless.

Zisk77
12-13-2007, 08:24 PM
I like Otsuka, Collaro, and Olivo.

soxinem1
12-14-2007, 10:57 AM
I also think we should look at Kiko Calero. He had a down year due to injuries, but has been a solid American League reliever for a few years now.

OAK re-signed him with a cut in salary.

soxinem1
12-14-2007, 11:02 AM
Yeah, but he's a horrid hitter, and if he can't field he's useless.

That is not really true. As a near-bottom of the order hitter, he had 54 and 59 RBI (with 21 SB's in 2005) his last two full seasons.

While he is definitely not an offensive gem, he is definitely not horrid.

PatK
12-14-2007, 11:44 AM
There's enough names on that list where I'm amazed that at least ONE FREAKING PLAYER hasn't been given a look by the Sox.

Sargeant79
12-14-2007, 11:49 AM
I just posted this in WTS before noticing this thread...

T.R. Sullivan is reporting on mlb.com that we were set to send Chris Carter to the Rangers for Akinori Otsuka but backed out once we had a chance to examine his medical records.