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Lip Man 1
12-10-2007, 01:42 PM
December 11, 1973 - It was one of the worst deals ever made by Roland Hemond. The Sox acquire Cubs star Ron Santo after Santo refuses a deal to the Angels. Santo, who may have been able to be picked up on waivers, is acquired for three players, including pitcher Steve Stone. Santo stated he would not approve a trade anywhere else but to Chicago. Santo did very little in his one season with the White Sox and was considered a clubhouse cancer often getting into disagreements with Dick Allen. (Carlos May, a teammate of Santo and Allen that season, recalls one incident between the two in his interview with White Sox Interactive.)

December 11, 1975 - Roland Hemond sends third baseman Bill Melton and pitcher Steve Dunning to California for first basemanJim Spencer and outfielder Morris Nettles. Melton had a bad back and had worn out his welcome getting into a shouting match in a Milwaukee hotel lobby with broadcaster Harry Caray. Spencer meanwhile won a Gold Glove for his defensive prowess in 1977 saving many errors. He also had 18 home runs and 69 RBI’s for the "South Side Hit Men", twice driving in eight runs in a game.

December 11, 1980 - Edward DeBartolo is voted down by other American League owners in his attempt to buy the White Sox from Bill Veeck. DeBartolo, the man who ‘invented’ the modern shopping mall in Boardman, Ohio may have had connections with organized crime. He also owned horse racing tracks and wasn’t from the Chicago area. In an effort to appease then commissioner Bowie Kuhn, DeBartolo agreed to move to Chicago at least 20% of the time to have an idea of what was going on with the franchise. His compromises fell on deaf ears as he only received three ‘yes’ votes. The way was then opened for the group headed by Jerry Reinsdorf and Eddie Einhorn to get the franchise.

December 11, 1981 - Another fine deal pulled off by Roland Hemond. He sent shortstop Todd Cruz and outfielder Rod Allen to the Mariners for Tom "Wimpy’ Paciorek. Tom would lead the team in hitting in 1983 and was one of the craziest guys to ever do commercials for the club. After he retired he worked in the broadcasting booth from 1988 through 1999.

December 11, 1996 - After losing star pitcher Alex Fernandez to free agency and claiming that starting pitcher Kevin Tapani was "faking" an injury to his pitching hand (an injury that would force Tapani to miss the first half of the 1997 season with the Cubs), the Sox sign pitcher Jamie Navarro to a four year, twenty million dollar deal. Navarro is a complete bust. Making matters worse is General Manager Ron Schueler’s refusal to talk with the agents for Roger Clemens (the Hendricks Brothers) after he expressed an interest in the team. Schueler offers this infamous comment, "Roger Clemens is over the hill."

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Railsplitter
12-10-2007, 01:53 PM
Trivia note: Santo was the first player to nix a trade under the "Ten and Five" rule.

pdr
12-10-2007, 09:19 PM
Trivia note: Santo was the first player to nix a trade under the "Ten and Five" rule.

Which is how it became known as the "Santo Clause".

raven1
12-10-2007, 10:15 PM
December 11, 1973 - It was one of the worst deals ever made by Roland Hemond. The Sox acquire Cubs star Ron Santo after Santo refuses a deal to the Angels. Santo, who may have been able to be picked up on waivers, is acquired for three players, including pitcher Steve Stone. Santo stated he would not approve a trade anywhere else but to Chicago. Santo did very little in his one season with the White Sox and was considered a clubhouse cancer often getting into disagreements with Dick Allen. (Carlos May, a teammate of Santo and Allen that season, recalls one incident between the two in his interview with White Sox Interactive.)


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Lip

In defense of Ron Santo (yeah, I know he "bleeds Cubby blue"), Dick Allen was a far more disruptive influence on the team than Santo ever was. After all, it was Allen who quit the team before the season ended.

Lip Man 1
12-10-2007, 10:49 PM
Raven:

For what it's worth I have interviewed a number of guys who played with Dick. (You can find those interviews with guys like May, Andrews and Herrmann at the WSI interviews section.) I also interviewed both Chuck Tanner and Roland Hemond.

NEVER, not one time, has anyone ever said anything negative about Dick as a player or more importantly as a teammate. You can see for yourself. In addition most went out of their way to praise him. The story Ed Herrmann tells about the first day of spring training is very revealing about Dick's attitude and professionalism.

Lip

raven1
12-10-2007, 11:29 PM
My intent was really to object to Ron Santo being called a "clubhouse cancer" rather than to demean Dick Allen. Given Ron's drive and commitment to winning, it is understandable that he would be unhappy on an underachieving team. Dick Allen was also one of my childhood heroes and possibly the greatest Sox player of the 1970's, but I still think his abrupt "retirement" before the end of the 1974 season was inexcusable from a team loyalty standpoint regardless of what his personal reasons were.

TDog
12-11-2007, 02:57 AM
...

December 11, 1975 - Roland Hemond sends third baseman Bill Melton and pitcher Steve Dunning to California for first basemanJim Spencer and outfielder Morris Nettles. Melton had a bad back and had worn out his welcome getting into a shouting match in a Milwaukee hotel lobby with broadcaster Harry Caray. ...


Not that Harry Caray ever wore out his welcome by getting into shouting matches with players and driving them out of town.

Lip Man 1
12-11-2007, 10:47 AM
Raven:

All I can say is that Carlos May's story which he talks about in his interview on something Santo pulled, seems to me to be emblematic of the way Ron acted as a player both with the Cubs (Don Young anyone?) and the Sox.

Lip

chisox77
12-11-2007, 12:24 PM
Believe it or not, I know some Cub fans who loved the way Santo played for their team, but have found it hard to like him otherwise. Ernie Banks, Billy Williams, and Fergie Jenkins all got their "days of honor" at Wrigley Field, and Santo complained that he didn't get his (story was shared by an insider during a Score 670 interview some years ago). The Cubs eventually agreed to do it, more because they were getting sick of his complaints (this was back in the early 70s).