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Bucky F. Dent
11-28-2007, 07:52 AM
Lip's latest note on the ill-fated Steve Kemp acquisition got me to thinking: who was your favorite, one year pick-up by the Sox?

Not necessarily talking about flashes in the pan here, but any guy who spent a year with the club, made a great contribution (in your opinion), and then was gone from the club.

Mine has to be Richie Zisk. The excitement he and the Hitmen brought to Comiskey for one summer was immeasurable.

hi im skot
11-28-2007, 07:54 AM
Ellis Burks and Julio Franco come to mind for me.

SoxFan78
11-28-2007, 08:24 AM
Ellis Burks and Julio Franco come to mind for me.

Those are also good.

If not those two I say Cal Eldred

chisox77
11-28-2007, 08:24 AM
Orlando "El Duque" Hernandez



:cool:

thedudeabides
11-28-2007, 08:29 AM
Esteban Loaiza.

It was about a year and a half. But he contributed a lot by what he brought back in a trade, as well.

spawn
11-28-2007, 08:36 AM
Geoff Blum. He wasn't here for a full year, but his contribution was invaluable.

hi im skot
11-28-2007, 08:45 AM
Geoff Blum. He wasn't here for a full year, but his contribution was invaluable.

Yes!

I wasn't keen on him when he first arrived, but he won me over after making one of the best slides I've ever seen during a late-season game at the Metrodome.

And then, of course, we all remember his greatest contribution. :cool:

http://rightwingnuthouse.com/images/2005_10_26t032103_450x330_us_mlb_world_series_game 3.jpg

Jerome
11-28-2007, 08:50 AM
the 2005 white sox

Seriously, Esteban Loaiza. That guy was Cy Young for most of 03.

Chrisaway
11-28-2007, 08:50 AM
Geoff Blum. He wasn't here for a full year, but his contribution was invaluable.
Yeah I got ol bed head's jersey. I'd go with him or El Duque.

TommyJohn
11-28-2007, 08:53 AM
Richie Zisk and Oscar Gamble are the obvious choices for 1977.

Orlando Hernandez gets a vote solely for his inning in Fenway during the
ALDS.

Harry Potter
11-28-2007, 09:02 AM
Ken Hill

soxrme
11-28-2007, 09:08 AM
Zisk, Gamble, Blum, and Franco all did well by us.

WhiteSox5187
11-28-2007, 09:14 AM
I'm gonna go with Shingo.

guillen4life13
11-28-2007, 09:17 AM
:bashbro
REMEMBER ME!?!

PennStater98r
11-28-2007, 09:21 AM
the 2005 white sox

Seriously, Esteban Loaiza. That guy was Cy Young for most of 03.

Most? The guy was Cy Young that year. I think he was cheated out of the award. He was nearly took a pitching triple crown that year.

PennStater98r
11-28-2007, 09:23 AM
Anyone remember Charles Johnson? :smile:

nccwsfan
11-28-2007, 09:38 AM
Would Bo Jackson qualify? He technically played one full season with the White Sox (93') and a bit part in 91'...

santo=dorf
11-28-2007, 09:49 AM
Tom Gordon.

Great 2003 season, pour his heart into the team, and netted us two picks when he left. One of which was used on Gio Gonzalez. I haven't heard much on him especially since the Phills got Lidge. Perhaps we could net him in a package deal around Crede?

skottyj242
11-28-2007, 09:52 AM
Billy Koch.

veeter
11-28-2007, 09:54 AM
the 2005 white sox

Seriously, Esteban Loaiza. That guy was Cy Young for most of 03.He lost 1-0, twice to the then hapless Tigers. He was robbed. One year wonder: Caruso

ShoelessJoeS
11-28-2007, 09:54 AM
I'll never forget El Duque.

VeeckAsInWreck
11-28-2007, 10:00 AM
Anyone remember Charles Johnson? :smile:

OMG yeah I remember him. It seems like only he and "The Milkman" Herbert Perry got any hits for the Sox in that atrocious 2000 ALDS against the M's. :(:

Let us never speak of that series ever again!

eriqjaffe
11-28-2007, 10:33 AM
Jose Paniagua

FedEx227
11-28-2007, 10:44 AM
OMG yeah I remember him. It seems like only he and "The Milkman" Herbert Perry got any hits for the Sox in that atrocious 2000 ALDS against the M's. :(:


Yeah seriously what a god-awful series. 3 hits in that final game. Ugh.

soxfanatlanta
11-28-2007, 11:11 AM
The 1994 version of Darren Jackson.

VeeckAsInWreck
11-28-2007, 11:13 AM
Yeah seriously what a god-awful series. 3 hits in that final game. Ugh.

Yeah, that final game was a pain to watch. Almost as painful as the line drive that Kelly Wunsch took to the chest at the end.

Thank goodness for 2005!

LITTLE NELL
11-28-2007, 11:43 AM
Richie Zisk and Oscar Gamble, 1977-5 months of great baseball. I dont think the old ballpark ever rocked like that year.

soxinem1
11-28-2007, 11:56 AM
A ton can qualify as one season or less wonders, so to name a few:

Richie Allen
Bob James
Scott Podsednik
Cliff Politte
Neal Cotts
Herb Perry
Kelly Wunsch
Bill Almon
Danny Tartabull
Joey Belle
Bob Howry
John Cangelosi

Back in the late 60's, the Sox had a pitcher named Cisco Carlos, who was lights out when he first came up in 1967, then came crashing down to earth in 1968.

Lip Man 1
11-28-2007, 12:03 PM
Dick Allen wes a three time All Star in his three years with the Sox. Twice he led the A.L. in home runs in addition to being the 1972 A.L. MVP.

Hardly a "one year wonder..."

Lip

WhiteSox5187
11-28-2007, 12:23 PM
Most? The guy was Cy Young that year. I think he was cheated out of the award. He was nearly took a pitching triple crown that year.
Had the Sox made the playoffs that yera, I think he woulda won it too. But I seem to recall he struggled a lot down the stretch (the offense just gave up on hiim too I think, I remember losing a lot of close games).

ja1022
11-28-2007, 12:40 PM
A remember a few guys from the 90s that I seem to remember making a contribution. Tony Phillips, Mike Devereaux (sp), Jorge Fabregas, Brook Fordyce and Ryno's buddy Dave Martinez. Martinez may have had a couple good years here if I remember correctly.

thomas35forever
11-28-2007, 12:57 PM
Bartolo Colon.

soxfan13
11-28-2007, 12:57 PM
Billy Koch.

Dont you need even a little bit of success to be considered a one season wonder :tongue:

SoxFanSince67
11-28-2007, 01:00 PM
From another age: Oscar Gamble!

Paulwny
11-28-2007, 01:24 PM
Way back when--Ted Kluszewski

FedEx227
11-28-2007, 01:33 PM
Dont you need even a little bit of success to be considered a one season wonder :tongue:

Yeah, he was great for Oakland, but never worth a damn as a White Sox.

JB98
11-28-2007, 02:03 PM
The first two names that came to mind when I saw the thread title were Ellis Burks and Herbert Perry. Key components on division-winning Sox teams.

DumpJerry
11-28-2007, 02:12 PM
Anyone remember Charles Johnson? :smile:
Who doesn't?

About a week after we acquired huim, I went to the box office to buy tickets for an upcoming game. The guy behind the window was named "Charles Johnson." I asked him if he was our new player. He never heard of him.:o:

billcissell
11-28-2007, 02:17 PM
Dave Gallagher, outfielder during the late 80s. May have spent more than a year with the Sox, not sure. But did contribute one good season hitting around .300 while playing in about 100 games. After that, he did nothing for us or anyone else.

eriqjaffe
11-28-2007, 02:23 PM
How about good ol' KW himself? He posted a .281/11/50 line in '87, but only posted a .218 average for his entire career!

:KW:
"Ummmm...I can explain!"

VeeckAsInWreck
11-28-2007, 02:48 PM
Here is one you may remember.

Craig Wilson in 1998. That guy had a .468 average!

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/player.php?p=wilsocr02

OK, he was more of a one month wonder.

SoxFan64
11-28-2007, 02:51 PM
Richie Zisk and Oscar Gamble. Heck, the entire team played above its heads the entire year. Best summer of my life.

santo=dorf
11-28-2007, 03:57 PM
Lip's latest note on the ill-fated Steve Kemp acquisition got me to thinking: who was your favorite, one year pick-up by the Sox?

Not necessarily talking about flashes in the pan here, but any guy who spent a year with the club, made a great contribution (in your opinion), and then was gone from the club.

Mine has to be Richie Zisk. The excitement he and the Hitmen brought to Comiskey for one summer was immeasurable.
Come on guys. follow the rules.

ode to veeck
11-28-2007, 04:17 PM
Most? The guy was Cy Young that year. I think he was cheated out of the award. He was nearly took a pitching triple crown that year.

He faded in Sept, not cheated

ode to veeck
11-28-2007, 04:17 PM
Zisk and Gamble will always be my favs for the summmer of '77

Foulke You
11-28-2007, 06:04 PM
Cal Eldred was one of my faves for 1 year wonders. He won 10 games before the all star break and then ended up fighting injuries the 2nd half of the season. We wouldn't have won the division without Cal's great pitching in the 1st half that year. Jaime Navarro + John Snyder to the Brewers for Jose Valentin and Cal Eldred was easily one of Ron Schueler's best trades as Sox GM.

I also liked Scott Sanderson as a 1 year wonder back in '94 who replaced Tim Belcher from the '93 team as the #5 starter. He was 8W-4L when the strike started and was really a big surprise that season and anchored the #5 spot. That was a terrific rotation of McDowell, Fernandez, Alvarez, Bere, and Sanderson back in '94. Sanderson could have further strengthened the Sox bullpen had they got to play the ALDS that year. There is no telling how far that team could have gone. I really thought '94 was a World Series bound team.:(:

ode to veeck
11-28-2007, 06:07 PM
Billy Koch.

he was never a wonder, not even before we had him

ode to veeck
11-28-2007, 06:08 PM
Anyone remember Charles Johnson? :smile:

the human backstop as Baldwin referred to him, then we struggled for a solid behind the plate body until AJ came along

ode to veeck
11-28-2007, 06:10 PM
Dick Allen wes a three time All Star in his three years with the Sox. Twice he led the A.L. in home runs in addition to being the 1972 A.L. MVP.

Hardly a "one year wonder..."

Lip

hit the ball harder than any human the whole time he was here

ode to veeck
11-28-2007, 06:13 PM
sadly, Carlos May, and the accident in the reserves in '69 made him sorta fit the category

Thomes Forearm
11-28-2007, 06:18 PM
He faded in Sept, not cheated


IIRC, Halliday won that year, and he managed to just out-pitch Esteban the entire season. ES did falter at the end, even with two 1-0 losses. Halliday was (and still is) lights out that year.

TomBradley72
11-28-2007, 07:25 PM
Either George Foster, Steve Carlton or Sparky Lyle...take your pick.

Noneck
11-28-2007, 08:16 PM
Here's a 1 Month wonder:

Francisco Carlos aka The Cisco Kid

1967(as the Sox battled during one of the tightest pennant races ever), 7 starts, 1st start Aug 25, 41ip, 2-0 W/L, 0.86 era.

Next spring made cover of SI during spring training.

1968, 21 starts, 122ip, 4-14 W/L, 3.90 era.


Out of baseball in 1970.

IJay22
11-29-2007, 01:49 AM
"The Milkman" Herbert Perry!

DrCrawdad
11-29-2007, 08:01 AM
Dave Gallagher, outfielder during the late 80s. May have spent more than a year with the Sox, not sure. But did contribute one good season hitting around .300 while playing in about 100 games. After that, he did nothing for us or anyone else.

Gallagher (http://www.baseball-reference.com/g/gallada01.shtml) was a #8 pick by the Indians in '80 and he was a #3 pick by the A's before that.

I remember thinking Gallagher would do really well for the Sox. IIRC Gallagher had some contract issues with Reinsdorf and the Sox that doomed him. Of course his complete lack of power probably doomed him too.

Gallagher now runs a baseball academy in New Jersey. On his website (http://www.davegallagherbaseball.com/) there is a (YouTube) video of Gallagher getting a hit at Old Comiskey. I'm not sure who the announcers are.

PatK
11-29-2007, 08:25 AM
http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/topstory/sports/takatsu_shingo0529.jpg

Lip Man 1
11-29-2007, 09:36 AM
Ode:

Carlos had very good seasons in 1972 and 1973. Granted he never hit the same number of home runs as he possibly could have before the injury but he still combined an ability to hit line drives with speed... surprising speed for someone nicknamed "Tank".

Lip

ode to veeck
11-29-2007, 09:56 AM
Ode:

Carlos had very good seasons in 1972 and 1973. Granted he never hit the same number of home runs as he possibly could have before the injury but he still combined an ability to hit line drives with speed... surprising speed for someone nicknamed "Tank".

Lip

he was never as good as we thought he was gonna be that summer of '69 when he was hitting the cover off the ball before the accident, an was all-star two years and easily well more than decent for us '70-'73, ultimately traded mid 70s, now works for the Sox in some capacity I believe

ode to veeck
11-29-2007, 10:00 AM
Pods certainly fits this category; remember when he was really on and would steal 2nd and 3rd with no problem in the 1st half of '05? Ricky Henderson, who did this throughout much of his career, is the guy we most remember in that respect, but Pods was dialed in for '05

Lip Man 1
11-29-2007, 10:06 AM
Carlos recently retired from the U.S. Postal Service, he does some part time PR work for the Sox.

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/rwas/index.php?category=11&id=2449

Lip

billcissell
11-29-2007, 10:10 AM
Ellis Burks. Spent one year with the Sox ('93). Not sure if you would call him a "wonder" as he posted some decent numbers, but hardly wonderous. He was here and gone before we got a chance to really know him.

ode to veeck
11-29-2007, 10:30 AM
Carlos recently retired from the U.S. Postal Service, he does some part time PR work for the Sox.

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/rwas/index.php?category=11&id=2449

Lip

Lip, I was looking at a couple of the WSI interviews the other day and wondered if it would make sense to put a date on them (now that WSI's been around for several years, it would help place time context on some of your great interviews)

Hitmen77
11-29-2007, 10:52 AM
Carlos recently retired from the U.S. Postal Service, he does some part time PR work for the Sox.

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/rwas/index.php?category=11&id=2449

Lip

I'm too young to remember Carlos May, but recently I have heard the comment somewhere that he was the only Sox player to have his birthday displayed on the back of his uniform. His uniform # was 17 and he was born on May 17. (actually, I don't know if the Sox even had names on the backs of their jerseys when May played for them.)

As far has one year wonders go for the Sox, how about SS Bill Almon. He hit .301 for us in 1981.

pauliemvp
11-29-2007, 11:24 AM
There's some good ones on here, but I have to go with Shingo.

tstrike2000
11-29-2007, 01:28 PM
This is a stretch, but I'm gonna also say Julio Cruz. Even though he played for the Sox from '83 to '86 and never had great numbers, he was kind of a 1/2 year wonder-spark plug in '83 when he was acquired in June for Tony Bernazard. After being a .500 team through June, the Sox went like 42-6 at one point after the Sox got Cruz.

Nellie_Fox
11-29-2007, 02:13 PM
I'm too young to remember Carlos May, but recently I have heard the comment somewhere that he was the only Sox player to have his birthday displayed on the back of his uniform. His uniform # was 17 and he was born on May 17. (actually, I don't know if the Sox even had names on the backs of their jerseys when May played for them.)Yes, they did. His jersey said May 17. Actually, I think he's the only MLB player to have his birthday on his jersey, not just Sox player.

CWSpalehoseCWS
11-29-2007, 02:30 PM
There's some good ones on here, but I have to go with Shingo.

Same here. I still miss the Gong, but "Boom" by P.O.D. is just as good.

Foulke You
11-29-2007, 03:59 PM
Same here. I still miss the Gong, but "Boom" by P.O.D. is just as good.
That is a good song but I was partial when Bobby was using "Time to Play the Game" by Motorhead for his entrance music when he first joined the club back in '05. As a fan of both Triple H and Motorhead, I always was geeked whenever he made his way to the mound.:cool:

santo=dorf
11-29-2007, 04:12 PM
Let's try to assemble a team using the original poster's rule (only one season with the White Sox.)

C 2000 Charles Johnson
1B 1994 Julio Franco
2B 1927 Aaron Ward (?)
3B
SS
LF 1977 Richie Zisk
CF
RF 1993 Ellis Burks
DH 2001 Jose Canseco

SP 2003 Bartolo Colon
SP 2005 Orlando Hernandez
SP
SP
SP

RP
RP 1994 Paul Assenmacher
RP 2005 Luis Vizcaino
RP 2003 Tom Gordon
CL


Here's a link to the all-time roster http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/cws/history/players.jsp?sortby=position&filter=4

Remember: ONE YEAR ONLY!

Lip Man 1
11-29-2007, 04:35 PM
Ode:

That's a very good suggestion. I'll include a date from now on.

Lip

eriqjaffe
11-29-2007, 04:40 PM
Let's try to assemble a team using the original poster's rule (only one season with the White Sox.)I'm game:

C 2000 Charles Johnson
1B 1975 Deron Johnson
2B 1927 Aaron Ward
3B 1974 Ron Santo (no, really, 1986 Bobby Bonilla?)
SS 1986 Wayne Tolleson
OF 1977 Richie Zisk
OF 1982 Steve Kemp
OF 1993 Ellis Burks
DH 1994 Julio Franco

SP 2003 Bartolo Colon
SP 2005 Orlando Hernandez
SP 1986 Joe Cowley
SP 1996 Kevin Tapani
SP 1985 Tim Lollar
SP 2001 David Wells

RP 1986 Bill Dawley
RP 1994 Paul Assenmacher
RP 2005 Luis Vizcaino
RP 2003 Tom Gordon
RP 1984 Bert Roberge

Railsplitter
11-29-2007, 07:07 PM
Ron Santo

Okay, I admit it. I have a warped sense of humor.

ChiSox Charlie
11-29-2007, 08:12 PM
How about reliever Don McMahon. He was acquired midway through the 67 season and dealt away in the middle of the 68 season. His ERA was less than 2.00 during his time with the Sox.

John Cangelosi had 50SB in his one full season in 86.

Ed Spiezio filled in adequately for Melton and Dave Lemonds pitched a couple of good games against Oakland in 72.

ode to veeck
11-29-2007, 08:35 PM
Ode:

That's a very good suggestion. I'll include a date from now on.

Lip

Lip, thanks again for the interviews. They're great!

Dan the Man
11-29-2007, 09:01 PM
http://mlans.dynip.com/blogpics/2003-03/2003-03-08-parque.jpg

ode to veeck
11-30-2007, 09:25 AM
http://mlans.dynip.com/blogpics/2003-03/2003-03-08-parque.jpg

Sirotka too for that matter, though with all the torn labrums, they were more like 1/2 year wonders. I loved that 2000 team early in the year when they were leading baseball and vanquishing the Yankees

Bucky F. Dent
11-30-2007, 09:50 PM
I'm game:

C 2000 Charles Johnson
1B 1975 Deron Johnson
2B 1927 Aaron Ward
3B 1974 Ron Santo (no, really, 1986 Bobby Bonilla?)
SS 1986 Wayne Tolleson
OF 1977 Richie Zisk
OF 1982 Steve Kemp
OF 1993 Ellis Burks
DH 1994 Julio Franco

SP 2003 Bartolo Colon
SP 2005 Orlando Hernandez
SP 1986 Joe Cowley
SP 1996 Kevin Tapani
SP 1985 Tim Lollar
SP 2001 David Wells

RP 1986 Bill Dawley
RP 1994 Paul Assenmacher
RP 2005 Luis Vizcaino
RP 2003 Tom Gordon
RP 1984 Bert Roberge


WOW!!!!

That's a nice lineup

tony1972
12-04-2007, 11:55 AM
I'm not sure if a thread like this one has been posted in the past..but what were some of the greatest one year (or one hit) wonders that the White Sox have had...i/e they came out of nowhere...where great for a while...then collapsed and were traded, left and were never heard from again.

The most recent I can remember is Shingo Takatsu..I remember in 04 when he was unhittable and the fans would get on their feet during games when he'd come in the 9th....then after a few months he started getting rocked and eventually disappeared....

eriqjaffe
12-04-2007, 12:01 PM
I'm not sure if a thread like this one has been posted in the pastedit: Sure, and your post and my response will get merged into it! :D: