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doublem23
11-19-2007, 11:18 AM
Never totally lived up to the hype, but was out there every 5th day. Thanks for the ring.

http://kelly.jefferson.net/soxforum/blog/whitesoxring.jpg

salty99
11-19-2007, 11:19 AM
Thanks for the 18 strong wins in 2005 and 2006!

jshanahanjr
11-19-2007, 11:23 AM
Thanks for the memories! Time is flying when it just seems like Garland made his debut vs. the Royals on the 4Th of July 2000.

spiffie
11-19-2007, 11:24 AM
This thread will be much more meaningful in July when we're watching 2 young pitchers struggle, and suddenly everyone who said how average Garland is, and how easy his production is to replace will be much less happy with the situation. Here's a fun thought, our #3-5 pitchers going into this coming year combined for a 5.50 ERA last year. Woo hoo!

We'll miss you big Jon. Probably a lot more than most people think. Thanks for the last few years, and sorry for the nasty names I called you back in the early part of the decade.

kruzer31
11-19-2007, 11:25 AM
Good Luck to Mr. Garland, thanks for the memories and the ring


Jeff

balke
11-19-2007, 11:25 AM
Can we at least wait for an official link or something? Levine also said the Sox didn't get Buehrle and there were no discussions.

DSpivack
11-19-2007, 11:26 AM
Can we at least wait for an official link or something? Levine also said the Sox didn't get Buehrle and there were no discussions.

http://www.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20071119&content_id=2303590&vkey=pr_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws

balke
11-19-2007, 11:27 AM
http://www.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20071119&content_id=2303590&vkey=pr_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws

Heh, fair enough. Later Jon. I'm happy he got out of town, a lot of the fans treated him like crap for the most part. Hope he dominates out West.

AJ Hellraiser
11-19-2007, 11:27 AM
Never totally lived up to the hype, but was out there every 5th day. Thanks for the ring.

WOW... some appreciation for a guy that won 18 games in back-to-back years and was as big a part as any in helping us win the World Series...

Anyhow, Thanks Jon! I'll never forget the 8-0 start in 2005...

gobears1987
11-19-2007, 11:30 AM
I would say he eventually lived up to the hype. Hawk predicted he would be an 18 game winner and Garland did it twice.

I'll admit I wasn't a fan of his initially, but Garland won me over. Our rotation is now worse off without him.

Etownsox13
11-19-2007, 11:32 AM
Thanks to Jon...I've got a feeling he will be well-liked in So-Cal

WhiteSox5187
11-19-2007, 11:34 AM
Unless we trade for some pitching, we're going to find out how much we miss Garland in July of this year when we have a solid 1-2 and a God awful 3-5.

jenn2080
11-19-2007, 11:34 AM
I am sorry I called you Judy when you sucked (kind of) and I am sorry that I made fun of all the gel you put in your hair. You were ok in my book. Thanks for kicking ass most of the time.

Enjoy the west coast where the hair product is more accepted.

chaerulez
11-19-2007, 11:37 AM
I would say he eventually lived up to the hype. Hawk predicted he would be an 18 game winner and Garland did it twice.

I'll admit I wasn't a fan of his initially, but Garland won me over. Our rotation is now worse off without him.

Wins are the most overrated pitching stat, as your offense and relief pitching have a lot of influence on them. That said, I liked Garland. He was never a top tier guy, but he never got injured and was good for 200+ innings a year. He was a very solid #3 guy. I don't think I would've made this trade straight up for Cabrera, at least asked for a prospect in return, as Garland has a very cheap contract. I think the fanbase has always been too hard on Garland for his demeanor, but I think the Angels might have the best #1-5 in the game now with Lackey, Escobar, Weaver, Garland and Santana.

kevingrt
11-19-2007, 11:38 AM
Garland was great. He'll have fun out in SoCal and next time he comes to the Cell I will surely give him a standing O.

Rocky Soprano
11-19-2007, 11:39 AM
Good luck Jon.
Thanks for the ring.

Cat Thief
11-19-2007, 11:54 AM
Thanks for the ring and the 2 run shot in Cincy.

At least now we won't have to see anymore Garland is my Darlin signs.

See Ya.

chisoxmike
11-19-2007, 11:55 AM
I hope Garland wins the Cy Young in 2008.

sox1970
11-19-2007, 11:58 AM
I hope Garland wins the Cy Young in 2008.

I hope Vazquez and Buehrle come in 2nd and 3rd.

California Sox
11-19-2007, 11:58 AM
Good luck in LA of Anaheim, Jon. That's a great rotation, so there's no pressure on him. Of course, they can't score any runs but he'll be fine. I'll always appreciate how Jon took the ball no matter what.

whitesoxwilkes
11-19-2007, 12:03 PM
Good luck Jon. Your laid back attitude, heavy sinker and smirk will be missed.

MillerSoxFan
11-19-2007, 12:03 PM
One of the best games I ever saw - May 1, 2005, kid's jersey giveaway day, freezing sitting in the top row of the upper deck. Jon Garland pitched a gem. Oddly enough it was the only win I was present for that year, despite going to numerous games.

TheCommander
11-19-2007, 12:08 PM
I hope Garland wins the Cy Young in 2008.

Just so you can say you were right about this being a bad trade?:?:

chisoxmike
11-19-2007, 12:11 PM
Just so you can say you were right about this being a bad trade?:?:


Guys like Garland don't grow on trees, I am disgusted that Williams traded him for a 32-year old shortstop and added another hole in the rotation.

Cabrera isn't a bad player, I'd rather have Garland.

Domeshot17
11-19-2007, 12:19 PM
200 innings a year won games when he got run support, great mid rotation starter. He played a big part in 2005 getting us to the playoffs.

I think if he was willing to stay for less, we could have kept him, but my thinking is he wants Buehrle money +.

One of the nicest guys to give an autograph and even though it never looked like he cared you could tell he always did.

Im glad he went to a team like the Angels that you never learn to hate.

thomas35forever
11-19-2007, 12:24 PM
I was at the game where he got his first ML win against Milwaukee. Good luck Jon. Thanks for back-to-back 18-game win seasons.

esbrechtel
11-19-2007, 12:30 PM
this thread is probably just a few months early anyways.....but thanks for 2005 and for being part of the 4 CG in the ALCS one of my greatest whitesox memories!

doublem23
11-19-2007, 12:31 PM
this thread is probably just a few months early anyways.....but thanks for 2005 and for being part of the 4 CG in the ALCS one of my greatest whitesox memories!

:?:

He just got traded.

whitem0nkey
11-19-2007, 12:32 PM
thank you Mr Jon. Im glad you were a sox, and i wish you and your family the best!

russ99
11-19-2007, 12:33 PM
Thanks for a great '05 and '06 and the ring Jon.

This is a good move for Garland, as he gets to pitch back home.

BTW: we still fleeced the Cubs... :D:

SoxSpeed22
11-19-2007, 12:34 PM
Really stepped up in 2005, started the season great. For a guy who was supposed to be #5, he did about as good as anyone. Thanks for the complete game against the Angels and gritty outing against Houston, despite the defense and the bad home run call. 2006, was the only somewhat consistent starter. 2007, not as much. Hopefully he can rebound next year in Cali.
:worship::jon

Red Barchetta
11-19-2007, 12:39 PM
Garland was great. He'll have fun out in SoCal and next time he comes to the Cell I will surely give him a standing O.

I agree! The game he pitched in the ALCS against the Angels after the first series layoff was very impressive. He absolutely hit his marks that game.

...Probably why the Angels are so high on him. Good luck Jon!

wdelaney72
11-19-2007, 12:44 PM
I always loved Jon... his defense on the mound and his durability was always a pleasure to watch. I'll miss him... it's just a shame he's not going to the N.L. where he could bat regularly.

chisoxfanatic
11-19-2007, 12:50 PM
:whiner:

I'm gonna miss you, Johnny! Thank you for your efforts, in 2005 especially.

nccwsfan
11-19-2007, 12:52 PM
Good luck to you Jon! You were part of the reason for making Sox fans' dreams come true in 05' and for that we will always be thankful.

Risk
11-19-2007, 01:04 PM
Thanks for the memories--part of one of the best post season pitching runs ever. Mrs. Risk is wearing her Garland jersey today out of respect.

Risk

esbrechtel
11-19-2007, 01:25 PM
:?:

He just got traded.

I meant that it was a little earlier than I expected... I knew his days were numbered and figured he was done after this year....

goon
11-19-2007, 01:58 PM
http://www.thebestlinks.com/images/thumb/1/16/200px-George_Costanza.JPG

Onward and upward.

Thanks for 2005, Jon.

garlandsgirl17
11-19-2007, 02:00 PM
guess my user name no longer applies...this is the worst trade ever
i know jon will do good in CA
stay strong jonny you will be missed!

veeter
11-19-2007, 02:05 PM
Good luck, Jon. You'll always be one of my favorites. Four complete games in the ALCS will probably never be duplicated. Great job in being part of that!!!

BadBobbyJenks
11-19-2007, 02:06 PM
thanks for your part in the amazing 2005 season. Loved big jon while he was here.

2/4 of the historic run through anaheim are now gone.
:gulp:good luck on the west coast where we knew you were going next season anyway.

IlliniSox4Life
11-19-2007, 02:16 PM
Thanks Jon, thanks.

gobears1987
11-19-2007, 02:25 PM
Good luck in LA of Anaheim, Jon. That's a great rotation, so there's no pressure on him. Of course, they can't score any runs but he'll be fine. I'll always appreciate how Jon took the ball no matter what.
I'm curious, but did he ever miss a start? I know Buehrle has never missed one, but I can't recall Jon missing one either.

EDIT: I forgot, but he might have missed one in July now that I think of it, someone correct me

JGarlandrules20
11-19-2007, 02:38 PM
I'll miss you, JG! Thanks for being one of the classiest guys on the team when dealing with fans. And thanks for finally putting it all together when the team needed it most in '05.

I'm glad he'll be close to home now.

UserNameBlank
11-19-2007, 02:46 PM
Thank you, Jon. I hope this move works out better for you than it likely will for us.

You know, maybe instead of talking about throwing $15mil at Hunter, the Sox could have just given you your money? Oh well. I guess offense in CF and SS - the two most important defensive positions on the field - is more important than pitching.

Good luck Jon. Thanks for everything.

PalehosePlanet
11-19-2007, 03:04 PM
Thanks Jon, 8 years is a long time Buddy. You'll be missed; thanks for being a huge part of the '05 campionship run.

Also, you were one of the best acquisitions we ever made (for Karchner, no less!)

Good luck!

Domeshot17
11-19-2007, 03:09 PM
Thank you, Jon. I hope this move works out better for you than it likely will for us.

You know, maybe instead of talking about throwing $15mil at Hunter, the Sox could have just given you your money? Oh well. I guess offense in CF and SS - the two most important defensive positions on the field - is more important than pitching.

Good luck Jon. Thanks for everything.

Is this a joke, why would you fail to mention hunter and cabrera would give us a gold glover in center and a gold glover in short as well as offensive upgrades.

But yah, lets not worry about offense or defense as long as we throw 15 mil a year at a pitcher who gives us an era over 4!!!!!!!!!!!

gogosox16
11-19-2007, 03:11 PM
Is this a joke, why would you fail to mention hunter and cabrera would give us a gold glover in center and a gold glover in short as well as offensive upgrades.

But yah, lets not worry about offense or defense as long as we throw 15 mil a year at a pitcher who gives us an era over 4!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree cause we could have Gavin do that for us next year and for 11.5 million dollars cheaper.

doublem23
11-19-2007, 03:30 PM
I agree cause we could have Gavin do that for us next year and for 11.5 million dollars cheaper.

I hope your not banking your season on that. Oh wait, right now we are.

HaroMaster87
11-19-2007, 03:32 PM
I am sorry I called you Judy when you sucked (kind of)

ME too!!! That got me whacked with teH banstick...

I wish you well, Jon! Unless you pitch against us!!!

Soxman219
11-19-2007, 03:59 PM
Thanks for the memories, Jon. I will never forget that 2005 season when you started out 8-0. When you come back to the Cell, you will get a standing O.

jongarlandlover
11-19-2007, 04:02 PM
Thanks for everything. You'll be missed.

UserNameBlank
11-19-2007, 04:32 PM
Is this a joke, why would you fail to mention hunter and cabrera would give us a gold glover in center and a gold glover in short as well as offensive upgrades.

But yah, lets not worry about offense or defense as long as we throw 15 mil a year at a pitcher who gives us an era over 4!!!!!!!!!!!
That candy-stealing, grandma-shoving, Satan-worshipping scumbag Brian Anderson can play GG defense in CF for I belive 350K per year. Actually, if we really want to he'll play for free just for the air travel, as it is well known that he loves to fly across the country with his middle finger sticking up in the window.

Juan can play pretty good D too, at least when he wants to. KW apparently thought Juan wanted to because he re-signed him.

Assuming we get Hunter, for the probably $18-20mil difference between The Evil Brian Anderson/El Dinner and Orlando Cabrera/Torii Hunter, the Sox could have theoretically extended Garland at a couple more mil per year than what he's making now (about $3mil more), brought in a veteran fifth starter on a reclamation deal ($8mil or so), and then still had around another $7-9mil left over for other areas.

For all those expecting a 2005-like offseason, get ready to be deeply disappointed. KW isn't dumping high-salaried players for the sake of filling more holes with productive non-"name" veterans. He's working the opposite way, looking to add more expensive "name" players at the expense of opening up holes elsewhere, like the starting rotation.

Huisj
11-19-2007, 05:20 PM
Thanks for the memories! Time is flying when it just seems like Garland made his debut vs. the Royals on the 4Th of July 2000.

Wow, it sure does fly. I remember driving in my car on my way to a friend's house where a bunch of folks were meeting up before going downtown to see fireworks, and I listened to the first inning of that game with great anticipation after his dominating few months at AAA. I contemplated waiting in my car to listen to it until people left to go downtown, but I decided not to be that anti-social. Then when we got back and I put it on in my car, I was glad I hadn't stayed in my car to listen.

chisox77
11-19-2007, 06:02 PM
Thank you, Jon. You became a very good pitcher for the White Sox. We appreciate the great memories from 2005, your two 18-win seasons, and your ability to be a quality 200+ inning man on a consistent basis. Good luck with the Angels. At least you will be back close to your home roots in SoCal.


:cool:

Grzegorz
11-19-2007, 07:54 PM
Jon,

Thank you for your service and your attitude. Here's wishing you the best of luck in the future.

ChiSoxLifer
11-19-2007, 08:27 PM
Great, my 2005 World Series Championship hat was signed by only two players, Brandon McCarthy and Jon Garland.

GlassSox
11-19-2007, 08:36 PM
Good luck Jon. We will miss you. Thanks

MCHSoxFan
11-19-2007, 08:44 PM
Thanks Jon. I will never forget sitting front row behind the White Sox dugout with my father and seeing you get your 18th win in 2005.
Whoops, I could I forget that WS ring?!?!:D: Thanks!

viagracat
11-19-2007, 09:27 PM
Always sad to see a solid Sox player gone, although I sure do like the idea of having Cabrera at SS.

Nice work, Jon, and good luck!

ChiSoxGirl
11-19-2007, 09:34 PM
Thanks for the amazing memories you provided Sox fans with in 2005. I'll always remember your complete game in the ALCS and that All-Star Game appearance in 2005.

And although you had nothing to do with it directly, thanks for providing unclegary & I the inside joke of referring to you as "Gardner" for the last 2 1/2 years. :wink: You'll definitely be missed.

KyWhiSoxFan
11-19-2007, 09:35 PM
Jon. Thanks for playing for the Sox and not the Cubs and winning a World Series.

HomeFish
11-19-2007, 10:25 PM
Sorry for calling you Judy back in 2003/2004. You proved me wrong.

Hitmen77
11-19-2007, 10:39 PM
Thanks for good 8 year stay with us. It seems like yesterday that I was listening on the radio as 20 yr old Garland made his White Sox debut.

Thank God the Cubs were stupid enough to trade him to us for Matt Karchner. Thank God the Angels nixed the deal in 2001 and would have sent Garland to Anaheim for Darin Erstad.

I'll always remember Garland for the 2005 season and post season run....and also I'll remember him hitting that HR in Cincinnati in '06.

Too bad Sox fans were so quick to rip on him. Seems like his calm demeanor was seen by some as "evidence" that Garland didn't care about win. That's just BS.

TomBradley72
11-19-2007, 10:58 PM
#2 in career wins (92) of all White Sox pitchers since 1980 (behind only Buehrle)
Back to back 18 win seasons 2005-2006
2-0,2.25 ERA in 2005 Post Season
2005 American League All Star
Career .176 hitter w/1 bomb @ Cincinnati :cool:Good luck Jon...

StillMissOzzie
11-19-2007, 11:23 PM
Good luck Jon. Your laid back attitude, heavy sinker and smirk will be missed.
And the laid-back attiude may be MORE welcome out there.

Thanks for a great '05 and '06 and the ring Jon.

BTW: we still fleeced the Cubs... :D:
:yup:

Good luck to you Jon! You were part of the reason for making Sox fans' dreams come true in '05 and for that we will always be thankful.
:yup:

Thanks Jon, 8 years is a long time Buddy. You'll be missed; thanks for being a huge part of the '05 campionship run.

Also, you were one of the best acquisitions we ever made (for Karchner, no less!)

Good luck!
:yup:

Thank God the Cubs were stupid enough to trade him to us for Matt Karchner.
I'll always remember Garland for the 2005 season and post season run....and also I'll remember him hitting that HR in Cincinnati in '06.


Clearly, I have littel to add. Thanks for your contribution to make the dream come true in 2005, and good luck in the future - except against the Sox!

SMO
:gulp:

Mohoney
11-20-2007, 12:46 AM
Thanks for being a vital contributor to the greatest season of White Sox baseball that any of us have ever seen or will ever see.

WhiteSoxJunkie
11-20-2007, 02:03 PM
Thanks for all of your contributions in 2005. I remember how amazed I was after pitching back to back complete game shutouts in early 05 and starting out 8-0. Good luck Johnny!

Wasn't it Garland who got a beer shower after his first Major League win despite being only 20 years old at the time and not being of legal drinking age?

white sox bill
11-20-2007, 02:28 PM
Thanks Jon for everything! Congrats on going back home to Southern California you lucky dog(my old stompin' grounds)!

I was really hoping you'd be the pitching equilevant of Sammy (without AAS use) to offset the Sosa for Bell trade, but we sure fleeced the cute and cuddlies on this one anyway! Good luck in Anaheim and put those Angels on the map!

PicktoCLick72
11-20-2007, 02:58 PM
Thanks for gving my brother a ball in Baltimore 2 years ago. He was thrilled. Good luck every day you don't pitch against us.

Blueprint1
11-20-2007, 06:48 PM
You will be missed Garland. I think this will go down as the worst trade made by Williams so far.

Chicken Dinner
11-20-2007, 09:16 PM
Sorry for calling you Judy back in 2003/2004. You proved me wrong.

Can we call him Judy now? :?:

Nellie_Fox
11-20-2007, 11:57 PM
Can we call him Judy now? :?:If you think that his changing teams changes that, you've missed the point. You will not use female names as an insult. Being female is not inferior. Got it?

RedHeadPaleHoser
11-21-2007, 06:19 AM
Complete game in the 2005 ALCS.

Always looked composed on the mound during the best season on my life.

Best of luck in CA, Jon....welcome home.

Frontman
11-21-2007, 09:01 AM
Jon was a solid lynchpin to the rotation. Oh sure, he wasn't a dominant pitcher (name one on the Sox roster) but he did his job and was better that most give him credit for.

Jon, thanks for the memories, thanks for being so solid for the Sox. Good luck down the road (save when you play the Sox. Then, if you can come down with the stomach flu or something, as to avoid having to face them, I'd appreciate it.)

And on a side note, thank you Jon for the laugh on the Sox Pride DVD:

"Can you guys even understand him?" J. Garland on Ozzie Guillen.

balke
11-21-2007, 09:05 AM
Jon was a solid lynchpin to the rotation. Oh sure, he wasn't a dominant pitcher (name one on the Sox roster) but he did his job and was better that most give him credit for.

Jon, thanks for the memories, thanks for being so solid for the Sox. Good luck down the road (save when you play the Sox. Then, if you can come down with the stomach flu or something, as to avoid having to face them, I'd appreciate it.)

And on a side note, thank you Jon for the laugh on the Sox Pride DVD:

"Can you guys even understand him?" J. Garland on Ozzie Guillen.

He was actually very dominant. A lot of his ERA (Especially last season) came from games where he was horrible for 2 innings and got pulled. He's a great quality start pitcher. He's not Santana or Peavy or Halladay, but hardly anyone in the MLB is. Jon would be the #1 on a lot of bad teams, and a #2 on a majority of MLB teams. Top tier teams he's a #3 or #4.

I wish him well, and would like to see him reach his full potential of being a durable pitcher who racks up a gigantic amount of wins in is career.

akingamongstmen
11-21-2007, 09:16 AM
I guess that time will tell, but this looks like a win-win for everybody involved. He's going to be great in L.A. with a team that I've always thought highly of. We get a guy that we really need. :cool:

Thanks for '05 and thanks for always being a gamer...even if you didn't have your best stuff. I'll never forget the complete game in the ALCS. I'll proudly continue to wear your jersey from time to time to remind me of it.

Frontman
11-21-2007, 02:19 PM
He was actually very dominant. A lot of his ERA (Especially last season) came from games where he was horrible for 2 innings and got pulled. He's a great quality start pitcher. He's not Santana or Peavy or Halladay, but hardly anyone in the MLB is. Jon would be the #1 on a lot of bad teams, and a #2 on a majority of MLB teams. Top tier teams he's a #3 or #4.

I wish him well, and would like to see him reach his full potential of being a durable pitcher who racks up a gigantic amount of wins in is career.

I'm talking CC Sabathia/Johan Santana dominant. Jon's never been feared by the other team like those guys. That being said, he's a definate MLB career pitcher who, barring injury, will be a great pitcher for some time to come.

Frater Perdurabo
11-21-2007, 08:49 PM
'Twas great relying on you, Jon, to pitch every fifth day and give the Sox a chance to win every time. He knew how to win at the Cell - induce grounders and let the infield do the work - even if his pitches didn't always cooperate. He was a battler and we'll miss him in the rotation.

the1tab
11-21-2007, 09:26 PM
Here's to you, Mr Garland. From my personal photos:

http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v105/227/104/520183404/n520183404_145448_1642.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=145449&id=520183404)

soxfanreggie
11-22-2007, 09:18 AM
Thanks for everything Jon. I hope those shoulder problems don't hurt you because you are a very good pitcher. I wish you well, except when you're pitching vs the Sox.

slavko
11-24-2007, 10:20 AM
You were: too laid back, had a funky tattoo, a high-profile girlfriend, pitched to contact, couldn't get past the 6th inning for too long a time, lots of wins but they didn't mean anything because of high ERA, inning eater but not a #1 starter, not enthusiastic enough, not a team leader, not enough strikeouts, were going to break the bank in free agency and we had to dump you before we got nothing out of you. Hell, it's amazing you lasted as long as you did before we kicked your sorry ass out of town.

Or maybe not.