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captainclutch24
10-17-2007, 02:01 AM
For the third straight season if the Indians hold on and win 1 more the AL central will represent the American League in the World Series

TDog
10-17-2007, 02:54 AM
For the third straight season if the Indians hold on and win 1 more the AL central will represent the American League in the World Series

For three straight years, including last year, the NL Central was represented in the World Series. Nobody believe that qualified the division to be the best, or second best as it went 1-2, in baseball. Whether the AL Central goes 2-1 or 1-2 in three straight World Series overlapping the NL Central streak, it won't mean anything.

In fact, the AL Central was the second weakest division in baseball this year. Overall, the division had a losing record.

The strongest division is the NL West. The weakest is the NL Central.

Grzegorz
10-17-2007, 04:31 AM
In fact, the AL Central was the second weakest division in baseball this year. Overall, the division had a losing record.

The strongest division is the NL West. The weakest is the NL Central.

Spot on; an excellent post!

Railsplitter
10-17-2007, 07:47 AM
Our Sox are in it, that's why.

sox1970
10-17-2007, 07:54 AM
It's still impressive--4 different teams making the playoffs in a three year period, and three different AL Champions in a row (if the Indians make it).

Lip Man 1
10-17-2007, 09:36 AM
I disagree.

Consider these numbers:

Past three seasons:

2005 - White Sox win 99 games. Go 11-1 in the post season and win World Series. Division had 2 clubs with 90 or more wins.

2006 - Three division members had 90 or more wins. Tigers go on to represent the league in the World Series.

2007 - Indians tie for most wins in baseball. Assuming they win one more game will represent the league in the World Series.

So in three years the Central has had 6 teams with 90 or more wins (White Sox-2, Indians-2, Tigers and Twins) three straight league representatives in the World Series (assuming Cleveland wins out) and their record in post season series (again assuming Cleveland wins the LCS and as of this date) is: 7-2!

Meanwhile the Eastern Sports Programming Network's favorite division is a paltry: 1-5!!! LOL

Lip

ode to veeck
10-17-2007, 10:41 AM
sure, but the White Sox still sucked last year plain and simple, tough division or not

Foulke You
10-17-2007, 11:46 AM
The strongest division is the NL West. The weakest is the NL Central.
Well, I agree that the NL Central is the worst but I disagree about the NL West being the toughest. I think the best starting pitching in baseball is in the AL Central and the best lineups are in the AL East. It would be a tossup between those two divisions as the best in baseball.

TDog
10-17-2007, 12:25 PM
I disagree.

Consider these numbers:

Past three seasons:

2005 - White Sox win 99 games. Go 11-1 in the post season and win World Series. Division had 2 clubs with 90 or more wins.

2006 - Three division members had 90 or more wins. Tigers go on to represent the league in the World Series.

2007 - Indians tie for most wins in baseball. Assuming they win one more game will represent the league in the World Series.

So in three years the Central has had 6 teams with 90 or more wins (White Sox-2, Indians-2, Tigers and Twins) three straight league representatives in the World Series (assuming Cleveland wins out) and their record in post season series (again assuming Cleveland wins the LCS and as of this date) is: 7-2!

Meanwhile the Eastern Sports Programming Network's favorite division is a paltry: 1-5!!! LOL

Lip

Last year, the AL Central was the strongest division in baseball, despite one team experiencing what would have been considered a collapse of historic proportions, but the wild card safety net, only to go to the World Series and lose to a team from the weakest division in baseball.

In 2005, the White Sox had 99 wins but won their last five against AL Central teams to distinguish themselves against the East, where two teams had 95 wins. There also was a 95-win team in the West. The Sox beat the wild card from the East and the winner from the West. I don't believe the Central was clearly the strongest division. At best in 2005, the Central was only marginally better than the East.

This year, it is laughable to consider the AL Central the toughest division. Three of the five teams played under .500. The division lost more games than it won, despite having a .500 record for the majority of its unbalanced intradivision schedule.

In 2005, the NL West was the weakest division in baseball. The Padres won the division by winning 82 games. This year it is the strongest, most competitive division in baseball. Four of its five teams had winning records, amazing considering they beat up on each other in an unbalanced schedule. The two teams that finished the regular season schedule tied for second in the division were tied for the second-best record in the league.

It would be ridiculous to say the division is weak because two years ago it was a weak division. It also is ridiculous to say the AL Central is the strongest division in baseball this year because it had three 90-win teams last year.

palehozenychicty
10-17-2007, 02:31 PM
Last year, the AL Central was the strongest division in baseball, despite one team experiencing what would have been considered a collapse of historic proportions, but the wild card safety net, only to go to the World Series and lose to a team from the weakest division in baseball.

In 2005, the White Sox had 99 wins but won their last five against AL Central teams to distinguish themselves against the East, where two teams had 95 wins. There also was a 95-win team in the West. The Sox beat the wild card from the East and the winner from the West. I don't believe the Central was clearly the strongest division. At best in 2005, the Central was only marginally better than the East.

This year, it is laughable to consider the AL Central the toughest division. Three of the five teams played under .500. The division lost more games than it won, despite having a .500 record for the majority of its unbalanced intradivision schedule.

In 2005, the NL West was the weakest division in baseball. The Padres won the division by winning 82 games. This year it is the strongest, most competitive division in baseball. Four of its five teams had winning records, amazing considering they beat up on each other in an unbalanced schedule. The two teams that finished the regular season schedule tied for second in the division were tied for the second-best record in the league.

It would be ridiculous to say the division is weak because two years ago it was a weak division. It also is ridiculous to say the AL Central is the strongest division in baseball this year because it had three 90-win teams last year.

Exactly. People claiming that the Central is the best division are being naive and hypocritical, as the Eastern Seabord Network does the same thing with the Yanks and Carmines. The NL West, top to bottom, is set up to be a premier division for awhile. All those teams have some quality young talent. The Giants have the least of it, but they have some strong young starters.

WhiteSoxJunkie
10-18-2007, 11:11 PM
It's still impressive--4 different teams making the playoffs in a three year period, and three different AL Champions in a row (if the Indians make it).

Even more impressive is that the NL West has had 4 different playoff teams in the past 2 seasons.

drewcifer
10-18-2007, 11:30 PM
Even more impressive is that the NL West has had 4 different playoff teams in the past 2 seasons.

That's not impressive.

The AL East features the same two year in and year out.

In the AL Central, you've had:

Tigers, Twins, White Sox. 2 different teams in 2 straight years won the pennant - from the same division.

How many NL West teams won a pennant in the last 2 years? 3? 4? 5?

chaerulez
10-18-2007, 11:52 PM
For three straight years, including last year, the NL Central was represented in the World Series. Nobody believe that qualified the division to be the best, or second best as it went 1-2, in baseball. Whether the AL Central goes 2-1 or 1-2 in three straight World Series overlapping the NL Central streak, it won't mean anything.

In fact, the AL Central was the second weakest division in baseball this year. Overall, the division had a losing record.

The strongest division is the NL West. The weakest is the NL Central.

The 2004 Cardinals were actually a good team though.

The 2005 Astros, not as much, but they at least deserved to be in the playoffs.

But yeah, the 2006 Cards were a joke and a fluke team.

mjmcend
10-19-2007, 10:35 AM
EThe NL West, top to bottom, is set up to be a premier division for awhile. All those teams have some quality young talent. The Giants have the least of it, but they have some strong young starters.

While I agree the NL West is #1 this year, people said the same things about the AL Central dominating for a long time just two years ago. Fortunes change quickly in baseball.

TDog
10-19-2007, 11:30 AM
While I agree the NL West is #1 this year, people said the same things about the AL Central dominating for a long time just two years ago. Fortunes change quickly in baseball.

Of course they do. That is why looking at last year doesn't tell you how strong a division is this year. The teams have a lot of good young talent. People see that talent playing at this level and even getting better over the next few years. It doesn't always work out that way. The 1983 White Sox had two Rookie of the Year candidates and some very good pitching. But things would be bleak before the Sox would finish on top again. After Game 5 in the 1984 NLCS, Leon Durham, who let an important ground ball go through his legs, shrugged and said, "We'll be back next year." Sports Illustrated had the Cubs as the dominant NL team going into the 2004 season. I think people were calling them "armed and dangerous."

Building a winner has proved tough. Maintaining a winner has proved tougher.

ondafarm
10-19-2007, 03:42 PM
And oddly, the White Sox were one of only two teams in the ALCD to post a winning record against the ALCD at 39-33. The Indians were 48-24, the Tigers 36-36, the Twins 28-44 and the Royals 29-43. The White Sox troubles came against everybody else posting losing records against the ALED: 17-23, the ALWD: 12-20 and the NL 4-14. That interleague mark brought up the rear of the league, the Orioles at 6-12 were next worst. On the good side, the White Sox vastly exceeded their expected record of 67-95, if you call that good.

PKalltheway
10-19-2007, 08:38 PM
Building a winner has proved tough. Maintaining a winner has proved tougher.
Exactly. That's why baseball is one of the toughest sports to repeat in.

PaleHoseGeorge
10-20-2007, 10:43 AM
You know what the real ***** is surrounding all this new talk about the "A.L. Central is best"?

It's waiting for Phil Rogers to write his retraction from 3 weeks ago when he anointed the N.L. West the new can't be beat division. Of course at least half of his rationale was based on the Diamondbacks at the time...

Forever stupid...