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SluggersAway
10-07-2007, 06:58 PM
The Sox season was horrific, but it could have been worse, we could have paid $100 million for a player that ended up with a regular season record of 15-12 and a 4.40 ERA.

Not to mention his first play-off game resulting in 4 2/3 innings while giving up 7 hits and 3 runs.

Is Matsuzaka a total bust given the price paid?

CHISOXFAN13
10-07-2007, 07:10 PM
The Sox season was horrific, but it could have been worse, we could have paid $100 million for a player that ended up with a regular season record of 15-12 and a 4.40 ERA.

Not to mention his first play-off game resulting in 4 2/3 innings while giving up 7 hits and 3 runs.

Is Matsuzaka a total bust given the price paid?

I'll hold off until after the postseason. Those 15 wins helped the Red Sox win the east and now they are four games away from representing the superior league in the Series.

JermaineDye05
10-07-2007, 07:11 PM
The Sox season was horrific, but it could have been worse, we could have paid $100 million for a player that ended up with a regular season record of 15-12 and a 4.40 ERA.

Not to mention his first play-off game resulting in 4 2/3 innings while giving up 7 hits and 3 runs.

Is Matsuzaka a total bust given the price paid?


I would say so but not quite as bad as Barry Zito

11-13 4.53 ERA

for 126 mil

Fenway
10-07-2007, 07:28 PM
DiceK had terrible run support and could have easily won 19. He IS having problems with the MLB size baseball but as a 6 year investment should get better.

TDog
10-07-2007, 08:17 PM
I would say so but not quite as bad as Barry Zito

11-13 4.53 ERA

for 126 mil

I thought at first this was a reference to Barry Zito. But Zito was paid more with stats that weren't as good. And he came about as close to the postseason as Jose Contreras this year.

Dan Mega
10-07-2007, 09:14 PM
I thought at first this was a reference to Barry Zito. But Zito was paid more with stats that weren't as good. And he came about as close to the postseason as Jose Contreras this year.

And he played in the NL. Matsuzaka > Zito, even if the first is overrated as well.

soxfanreggie
10-07-2007, 10:32 PM
I'm glad we didn't get Dice K, but I would have taken his numbers and paid his salary (not the acquisition fee) instead of what we got for Contreras who made quite a bit of money himself, maybe even more considering just a comparison of the salaries.

Zito though...that's going to hurt the Giants a lot unless he starts producing.

areilly
10-07-2007, 10:58 PM
Is Matsuzaka a total bust given the price paid?

Statistically you could argue he's overpaid, but from a marketing standpoint I'd say the Red Sox easily got their money's worth.

INSox56
10-08-2007, 12:04 AM
Uh, you wanna look at wasting money on garbage, go check out Clemens' stat sheet and salary

A. Cavatica
10-08-2007, 12:58 AM
Boston paid way too much for him, but I think they're still happy they have him. 15 wins as a rookie, innings eater, filthy stuff when he has command...

On the other hand, they regret signing Drew and maybe Lugo.

itsnotrequired
10-08-2007, 01:18 AM
The guy is signed through 2012. It isn't as if the Red Sox paid $100 million for one season of work. One year of adjustment is far too early to say if he is a bust or not. This guy could win 20 games next season.

oeo
10-08-2007, 01:23 AM
I said from the beginning that he would not be very good this year. But he's still young, so I won't say he's a bust for another year or two.

schmitty9800
10-08-2007, 01:41 AM
Don't forget he also got 6-7 days rest in Japan, he had to adjust to the change here.

dickallen15
10-08-2007, 08:08 AM
Javier Vazquez didn't have numbers that good in 2006 and everyone was saying that his $12.5 million a year salary was "market price".

The Immigrant
10-08-2007, 08:21 AM
Javier Vazquez didn't have numbers that good in 2006 and everyone was saying that his $12.5 million a year salary was "market price".

Why bring Vazquez into a discussion about $100 million pitchers?