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IlliniSox4Life
09-04-2007, 04:10 AM
I was listening to the Score earlier, and a lot of people called in and commented on how they are Sox fans, but have been following the Cubs as much or more lately just because they are playing more interesting baseball. Nobody said they were switching allegiances or anything, just that the Cubs have a more interesting plot going on. I imagine it to be something like watching last season of 24 verses last season of (something else that was on TV). My heart still lies with Jack Bauer and 24, but last season just kind of sucked so I found it harder to be dedicated to every episode. Anyway, might be a ****ty analogy, but anyway, here goes the poll.

Options:
1) None, don't watch or read about the Cubs.
2) I keep myself updated on the race and games, but don't watch the games.
3) I have caught a few games, but still watch more Sox games.
4) I watch about as many Cubs games as Sox games lately.
5) I watch more Cubs games than Sox games lately.
6) I jumped ships. Cubbies all the way!

Grzegorz
09-04-2007, 05:52 AM
If the medium at the particular location I happen to be at has the Cubs game on then I'll take it in as filler.

Otherwise, I do not read, watch, or listen to the Cubs when I have the choice.

WSox597
09-04-2007, 06:36 AM
I'll listen to the news, and hear about their games. It's impossible to avoid since it's All Cubs, All the Time right now.

I won't watch their games, though. To me, it's like watching an out of town team. I must admit to a little bit of wanting them to choke, since so many of their "Greatest Fans in the World" wanted the Sox to choke in '05. This was in between bouts of throwing garbage on their own field.

Go Brewers. Go Cards. Go anybody but the Cubs. If they manage to win, we'll be exposed to whole new levels of arrogance. Look at how arrogant they are now, and they haven't won anything since Teddy Roosevelt was president.

johnr1note
09-04-2007, 07:39 AM
I find myself listening to more Cubs games now -- but I listen to them often enough, as the home games are on during the day (usually) and I will casually listen to baseball whenever I can, regardless of the team. (I have XM, and will listen in the background while I work). I live by the axiom that I root for the White Sox and whoever plays the Cubs. It has always been that way. I'm not a jerk about it -- I have been very good natured about the Cubs success with my Cubs fans co-workers. I'm not "in your face" about the rivalry. I just hope the Cubs never win another game.

I find myself listening to less of the White Sox, from the standpoint of disgusted disappointment, but probably more with the concept that I can't stand to listen to Farmio's droning. If the team was winning, I might tolerate Farmer. When the games have gotten bad (and there have been a lot of them lately), I find myself flipping to another game. I sadistically enjoy Cubs radio broadcasts -- Ron Santo openly suffering on the air during Cubs losses is pretty darn entertaining.

By the way, I don't watch television. I exclusively follow the Sox and other MLB teams via the radio.

DumpJerry
09-04-2007, 07:46 AM
Lately I've become a huge Cards and Brewers' fan.

LITTLE NELL
09-04-2007, 07:49 AM
The only way I pull for these guys is if the unthinkable happens and they make it to the WS and play the Red Sox. I never thought I could despise a team as much as the Cubs until I moved to SW Florida and met way too many obnoxious Red Sox fans. Go Brewers, Cards and Yankees.

robertks61
09-04-2007, 07:56 AM
I keep up on the race more than the Scrubs. I do listen to the Cards & Brew Crew on XM.

DumpJerry
09-04-2007, 08:00 AM
I've been cheering on Zambozo lately.:tongue:

IlliniSox4Life
09-04-2007, 08:01 AM
To go more into my own habits, I don't actually cheer for the Cubs, but I follow them more now than I did at the beginning of the year or the past few years. I don't go out of my way to watch them at all, and at most usually only watch an inning or two here or there if nothing else is on. I also find myself watching less and less Sox because it is so brutal.

I guess I'm more indifferent to the Cubs than cheering them one way or the other. It's sort of like when you don't care about any of the teams in the Super Bowl, but watch it or follow it anyway just because it's all anybody talks about.

Viva Medias B's
09-04-2007, 08:18 AM
Lately I've become a huge Cards and Brewers' fan.

That's funny. So have I. Then again, the Cardinals have been my favorite NL team for at least a decade.

oeo
09-04-2007, 08:28 AM
I never watch the Cubs. I've found myself watching whoever they're playing lately, though.

Bucky F. Dent
09-04-2007, 08:29 AM
Lately I've become a huge Cards and Brewers' fan.


Amen!

rdwj
09-04-2007, 08:33 AM
I never watch the Cubs. I've found myself watching whoever they're playing lately, though.

Same here!! It's amazing how many teams I want to watch that are playing the Cubs these days.

Steelrod
09-04-2007, 08:49 AM
The only way I pull for these guys is if the unthinkable happens and they make it to the WS and play the Red Sox. I never thought I could despise a team as much as the Cubs until I moved to SW Florida and met way too many obnoxious Red Sox fans. Go Brewers, Cards and Yankees.
I couldn't root for the Cubs, no matter who they were playing.

itsnotrequired
09-04-2007, 09:28 AM
I watched the Cubs-Brewers games (as I grew up a Brewer fan in Wisconsin) but other than that, I'll only watch some of the games if no other baseball is on and if there are other games on (non-Sox), I'll flip back and forth. In other words, I'm not going out of my way to catch a Cub game.

If the Brewers weren't still in it, I probably wouldn't be watching any of the Cub games.

LITTLE NELL
09-04-2007, 09:31 AM
I couldn't root for the Cubs, no matter who they were playing.
Have you met any Red Sox fans?

viagracat
09-04-2007, 10:15 AM
I'm on the road a lot and used to tolerate Farmer/Singleton back when the Sox were still mathematically in the race (well, technically they still are, but...). Now I rarely listen to baseball on the radio. Unless, of course, I hear on another station that the Cubs are losing. Then I will go to WGN if for no other reason, to enjoy Santo's groans and such.

Unfortunately, that backfired last Saturday when I switched to WGN just in time to hear Derrek Lee's ultimately game-winning home run against Houston. Santo got so excited I thought he was going to fall out of the booth.

Back to XRT after that....

Steelrod
09-04-2007, 10:17 AM
Have you met any Red Sox fans?
Sure, but have you spent any time this year with Cub fans?

viagracat
09-04-2007, 10:21 AM
Have you met any Red Sox fans?

Yes I have; they're very similar to Cub fans. I visited Boston once. They are extremely provincial, loud and are obsessed with the Evil Empire to the point of ridiculousness.

But it's the Yankees I can't root for under any circumstances. I always hold my nose and pull for the Red Sox when those two teams hook up.

My nightmare scenario would be a Cubs-Yankees WS, which although unlikely is not totally out of the question. I would have a lot of difficulty deciding who to root for. It would be truly the October week from hell. :o:

My liver would never be the same after a week like that. :redneck

soltrain21
09-04-2007, 10:52 AM
I've watched both the Sox and the Cubs my whole life. Nothing has changed. I like baseball more than I like the White Sox.

roylestillman
09-04-2007, 11:02 AM
Let me put it this way. While watching golf yesterday, I'd switch over to the game during the commercial breaks.

TDog
09-04-2007, 11:59 AM
I couldn't root for the Cubs, no matter who they were playing.

A couple of years ago, I saw a couple of friends standing outside a bar in January refusing to watch the Bears playoff game inside, making it clear they were Chicago Cardinals fans. I don't have a problem with that because it sounds like what you are saying. I know I could never see myself rooting for the Cubs under any circumstances.

As close as the Cubs came without going to the World Series in 1984 and 2003 before losing, frankly it's fun to cheer against them and watch the reaction of people who denigrate me for being a White Sox fan.

ws05champs
09-04-2007, 12:00 PM
Over the last 20-30 years I have come to despise the Cubs and root against them all the time. I am now attempting to attain enlightenment and can no longer be so hateful and negative. Yet I do find it impossible to actually root for the Cubs. So I have decided to take a morally higher approach and root for certain teams depending on the situation. Last weekend I was rooting for Houston. Tonight I have chosen to root for the Dodgers.

LITTLE NELL
09-04-2007, 12:10 PM
Sure, but have you spent any time this year with Cub fans?
Have a few in my community down here but they are old and have been around long enough to know better than to go nuts this year or any other year. Lets face it the 07 Cubs are not the 27 Yankees.

Steelrod
09-04-2007, 12:20 PM
Have you met any Red Sox fans?
Actually, I met several of them in October 2005, after we beat them in Boston. They wished us luck and said anyone but the Yankees.
What do you think a Cubs fan would say if we knocked them out?

The Critic
09-04-2007, 12:57 PM
Actually, I met several of them in October 2005, after we beat them in Boston. They wished us luck and said anyone but the Yankees.
What do you think a Cubs fan would say if we knocked them out?

Wait 'Til Next Year?
:D:

My wife likes the Cubs, so I watch a fair amount of games, even going to Wrigley a few times each year.
I am a Cardinals fan (my favorite NL team) and I like the Brewers, but I don't mind the Cubs. I like watching baseball, so I won't pass on a Cubs game, especially if the alternative is football (my least favorite of the "major sports").

Smokey Burg
09-04-2007, 02:24 PM
I might turn their game on providing nothing else worthwhile is on, and it is usually only as background noise. I find it hard to really pay close attention to the Cubs. As a youngster, I paid attention to both teams. It didn't matter who was playing, the important thing was there was a baseball game on TV. It wasn't until my late teens that I realized the intense dislike some fans have for the other franchise. However, as time has gone on I have developed a dislike for the Cubs, mainly because I spent too much time paying attention to dismal teams that were hyped up by the local and national news media. I don't hate the Cubs or Cub fans because that would mean that I actually pay attention to them. Right now I look at them like I would at steers being herded into the slaughter house, no sense in heckling them, they know whats going to happen. Besides, its Bear season now. This Cub season will be over and forgotten by the first weekend in October.

cheezheadsoxfan
09-04-2007, 02:36 PM
I only check the game to see if they are (hopefully) losing.

Go Brewers, Go Cards!

McCuddy
09-04-2007, 04:14 PM
As a rule, I follow all of the races until the Series ends. It's only worked out well once in my lifetime, but I still do it.

TornLabrum
09-04-2007, 06:46 PM
The only time I know what the Cubs are doing is if I happen to catch the sports on the radio news. This is only slightly less than how closely I've been following the Sox lately.

WhiteSox5187
09-04-2007, 07:40 PM
I've been paying more attention to the Cubs than I would care to admit to. I don't set aside a chunk of my schedule to watch 'em (like I do with the Sox, though not so much anymore) but if they're on and the game is close, I watch 'em and root against them PASSIONATELY. Somebody brought up the phrase shadefraude (forgive the spelling) that is my feeling towards the Cubs and their fans.

Brian26
09-04-2007, 09:21 PM
Prayer candles are lit, just as they were in 2003.

kevin57
09-04-2007, 09:37 PM
After the '05 season I declared in my delirium that I now couldn't care less if the Cubs won a championship. I was mistaken. Am I less intense in my distaste for their winning ways. Yeah, a bit.

I do follow the scores and highlights, but I can't watch a whole game, especially when they're at the Urinal. It's just an awful experience for me.

And, I'll raise you those candles with some special intercessory prayers. :wink:

The Immigrant
09-04-2007, 10:33 PM
Prayer candles are lit, just as they were in 2003.

Awesome. I watch almost every Cubs game these days and I root for the other team with passion.

ChiSoxGirl
09-04-2007, 10:39 PM
Lately I've become a huge Cards and Brewers' fan.

You said it!:cheers: :bandance:

Domeshot17
09-04-2007, 10:55 PM
Ive been watching a lot lately because its something to cheer for. By cheer for I dont mean for the cubs, but Im having fun rooting against them. Almost more fun then watching the Sox lose 4 out of every 6 nights

FielderJones
09-04-2007, 11:10 PM
And both the Cards and the Brew Crew pick up a game tonight!

:supernana:

Tragg
09-04-2007, 11:23 PM
To follow the Cubs means to follow the Brewers and I don't have the stomach for that.
I'm just going to trust in baseball equity that a mediocre team with lousy pitching like the Cubs simply cannot make the playoffs. I'll peak at the standings once in a while, but that's about it.

Mercy!
09-04-2007, 11:59 PM
I've been cheering on Zambozo lately.:tongue:Any time I hear his name I get the urge to point to the sky.

In response to the poll, where was the "when pigs fly" option?

Soxfanspcu11
09-05-2007, 12:35 AM
Prior to 10/26/05, I used to watch the cubs games with some regularity. Particuarly if the Sox had been all but eliminated and the cubs were still in it. 2003 and 2004 come to mind respectively.

I watched and just hoped that they would find a way to blow it. I wouldn't be able to stand it if the cubs had won a World Series before the Sox. And of course, the cubs would be the cubs, and everything was right with the world.

But something happened to me on 10/26/05. Something BIG. My beloved Sox won it all and won the Chicago baseball war. It just doesn't really interest me anymore what the cubs do.

I'm sure that cubs fans will be totally thrilled to "just make it to the playoffs", but that doesn't excite me anymore. I'm spoiled now. If the Sox, "just made it to the playoffs" and did not win the whole thing, I would consider it a failed season.

I'll watch the cubs if they make it to the World Series and become a threat to unseat the Sox as the city's only World Series Champion in a century, but for some reason, I don't think that will happen.:D:

The White Sox will win 2 or 3 more World Series before the cubs even get to one. You can book that Good Sir.

Foulke You
09-05-2007, 01:27 AM
To follow the Cubs means to follow the Brewers and I don't have the stomach for that.
I'm just going to trust in baseball equity that a mediocre team with lousy pitching like the Cubs simply cannot make the playoffs. I'll peak at the standings once in a while, but that's about it.
The only problem with that theory is the equal ineptitude of the other two NL Central contenders. Thankfully, they both won tonight. Here's hoping this is a trend.

russ99
09-05-2007, 02:09 PM
I only watch when they're playing my fave NL team, Houston.

Here's hoping the Astros can knock them out of first next week!

JimEdmonds15
09-05-2007, 02:43 PM
As a Cardinals fan.. every day.. every game.. but they are still the Cubs and for some reason I'm not worried about them either..

CLR01
09-05-2007, 02:50 PM
Why the hell would I follow the Cubs? :puking:

C-Dawg
09-05-2007, 04:58 PM
I'm sure that cubs fans will be totally thrilled to "just make it to the playoffs", but that doesn't excite me anymore. I'm spoiled now. If the Sox, "just made it to the playoffs" and did not win the whole thing, I would consider it a failed season.



Most of the Cub fans I know, well, the intellegent ones that is, realize that anything short of Bud Selig handing the World Series trophy to Jim Hendry in October will represent a failure. As one said - "Stupid Sox!! They won it all and raised the bar! :angry: ".

veeter
09-05-2007, 05:22 PM
I've been watching and analyzing the cubs a lot. I'm always trying to figure out if they could ever put together a champion, which would be my worst nightmare. The facts of this years NL central entry, are that they just aren't a very good team. It's never been more apparent than when a very good, 3rd place Dodger team has completely out classed then in every way so far. I still like the Brewers, but if the cubs ended up the tallest midget in the division, they would promptly be removed from the playoffs.

chisoxfanatic
09-05-2007, 07:32 PM
I keep updated with what's going on in that race, in hopes the Brewers or Cardinals (preferrably) eke out the division.

Soxfanspcu11
09-05-2007, 08:01 PM
Most of the Cub fans I know, well, the intellegent ones that is, realize that anything short of Bud Selig handing the World Series trophy to Jim Hendry in October will represent a failure. As one said - "Stupid Sox!! They won it all and raised the bar! :angry: ".

I dunno, we must know different cubs fans.

The ones that I know keep talking about how "just making the playoffs" would be a huge accomplishment.:?:

Now I know, with the way things have been going for them the past few years, making the playoffs would be a step in the right direction. But just barely making the playoffs in the worst division in baseball would not get me excited if the situations were reversed (Sox in worst division and made playoffs).

Let's just say, if the cubs do go on to win the NL Comedy Central, I would hope that cubs fans would not be stupid enough to purchase a "2007 NL Central Division Champs" t-shirt. But, chances are, they would not be able to keep those things on the shelves.:rolleyes:

vegyrex
09-05-2007, 08:44 PM
Ive been paying more attention to the Brewers and Cardinals lately. :redface:

rookie
09-05-2007, 11:32 PM
It's not my fault. In the last year I've aquired a boyfriend who is unfortunately a Cub fan (ironically my sister has had this happen to her as well). We have seen far more Cub games than ever before, which is way more than I care for anyways. (I secretly cheer againist them in my head, but aloud I'm a good girlfriend say good things about his team...Don't tell!)

Soxfanspcu11
09-06-2007, 03:35 AM
It's not my fault. In the last year I've aquired a boyfriend who is unfortunately a Cub fan (ironically my sister has had this happen to her as well). We have seen far more Cub games than ever before, which is way more than I care for anyways. (I secretly cheer againist them in my head, but aloud I'm a good girlfriend say good things about his team...Don't tell!)

:o:

NO NO NO!!!

If you really were a GOOD girlfriend, you would be doing EVERYTHING and ANYTHING in your power to try and convert him to being a Sox fan!!!

What kind of girlfriend are you?!?!?!?!? Your totally insane!!!

Obviously, I'm jokin around with you, but not entirely. You REALLY should be trying to convert him. Your sister as well!!! I'm sure that if you kept dropping hints and casual facts about why it is MUCH MUCH better to be a Sox fan, you could convert him eventually.

If he is a diehard cubs fan, it might be difficult, but not impossible! KEEP TRYING!!! In my experience, many cub "fans" have absolutely NO idea as to why they are cub fans. They are fans because their friends are, their boyfriend/girlfriend are (and they couldn't care less), they have bought into the hype about the urinal, etc., etc.

As I said, if he is a "true" cub fan, it might be hard, but not impossible. But if he is one of those fratboy types that just likes the cubs because he thinks it's "cool" to like the cubs, then you can most certainly convert him!!!

If he is intelligent and rational, you can just bring up the NUMEROUS facts and information that so many smart baseball fans have brought up here on WSI. If you hit him with all that, I can't see him still being a cub fan. It is your duty!!!:cool:

LITTLE NELL
09-08-2007, 01:11 PM
What scares me, even though the Cubs are at best an average team, they still could win this worst division and then get hot in the post season like the Cards last year. Anything can happen in a short series. Go Brewers and Cardinals!!!

MarySwiss
09-08-2007, 02:26 PM
I'm actually enjoying this. I look at it as a win-win situation.

The Cubs are almost certainly not going very deep in the playoffs, but the deeper they go, the worse it'll be for their fans when they lose.

And if they by some fluke do win the whole thing, well:

1) The war ended in 2005 when the Sox dropped the big one. We won.
2) They will not have gone wire-to-wire and almost certainly not 11-1 in the postseason.
3) All that "lovable losers" crap will have to stop. (BIG plus there!)
4) I'll pick up $300 from the twenty I bet in Laughlin last December for MrMarySwiss. (He never paid me back the twenty, so I see no reason why I should give him the $300.) :tongue:

Lke I said, win-win. :D:

pierzynski07
09-09-2007, 12:33 AM
It was a war? That's not a good attitude going forward. It's like saying "I don't care if we never win again."

Nellie_Fox
09-09-2007, 02:14 AM
...The war ended in 2005 when the Sox dropped the big one. We won.Not even remotely. If the Cubs win a Series, they will absolutely own Chicago, and the Sox will be the kids with their nose pressed to the window, wishing they could come out and play. Absolutely no one will care that the Sox did it first or with a better record. No one.

It's Time
09-09-2007, 02:51 AM
1) The war ended in 2005 when the Sox dropped the big one. We won.


:?:Come to Chicago and see if you say that. The war will never end with the Cubs, never. Even if they don't win the WS, they are, and always will be, the White Sox arch rival( Not so much on the field) in that the city is shared with them.

If they ever win a title, they'll say who has won it more recentley as a dig.

The Packers have more world tiltes then the Bears do, does that mean the Packers no longer consider the Bears their arch rival and the war is over with them?

Sorry, it's a never ending war. The bragging rights just happen to reside on the South side at the moment. If you lived here you'd understand it.

Grzegorz
09-09-2007, 06:20 AM
Not even remotely. If the Cubs win a Series, they will absolutely own Chicago, and the Sox will be the kids with their nose pressed to the window, wishing they could come out and play. Absolutely no one will care that the Sox did it first or with a better record. No one.

You're so wrong, where do I start??? :D:

We, the WSI community, will always care for the Chicago White Sox. After to 2005 season the Chicago Cubs fail to exist in my world.

As to your point of the Cubbies 'owning' this city, so they own the hearts of the diehard fans and borrow the hearts of the ‘hipsters’ that find it cool to be at Wrigley.

Do we really care what people like these think? Recently, I saw a fan at Wrigley holding up a sign that basically said that her husband would approve of an affair between her and Ryan Theriot. If the Cubbies want folks like this in their tent then let them have them.

How much of the Chicago White Sox base flips and starts heading north? I’d bet not many at all. At to all those that do: good riddance.

The Chicago White Sox will draw and we'll still follow.

I will say this though; there is no margin for error. Are you listening misters Reinsdorf, Williams, & Guillen?

MCHSoxFan
09-09-2007, 10:42 PM
I'm actually enjoying this. I look at it as a win-win situation.

The Cubs are almost certainly not going very deep in the playoffs, but the deeper they go, the worse it'll be for their fans when they lose.

And if they by some fluke do win the whole thing, well:

1) The war ended in 2005 when the Sox dropped the big one. We won.
2) They will not have gone wire-to-wire and almost certainly not 11-1 in the postseason.
3) All that "lovable losers" crap will have to stop. (BIG plus there!)
4) I'll pick up $300 from the twenty I bet in Laughlin last December for MrMarySwiss. (He never paid me back the twenty, so I see no reason why I should give him the $300.) :tongue:

Lke I said, win-win. :D:

EXACTLY!!! I want the C**s to be up 3-0 in the Wolrd Seires and LOSE the Wold Seires. Sorry, that is just how much I cannot stand the fans and the hype.

chisoxmike
09-09-2007, 10:49 PM
EXACTLY!!! I want the C**s to be up 3-0 in the Wolrd Seires and LOSE the Wold Seires. Sorry, that is just how much I cannot stand the fans and the hype.

I don't want them anywhere near the World Series, or playoffs for the matter. For the people that want them to blow the series; even if the Cubs lose in the WS, the Sox will fail to exist in this town. It's hard enough to get the Sox on TV (when they are playing well) in a bar/restaurant, if the Cubs got in, forget it. The Cubs would OWN this town even more and it will never let up.

Thats why 2006 was so important for the Sox. They needed to at least get back to the playoffs. They blew it.

russ99
09-10-2007, 10:44 AM
Welcome to second place, Cubbies, stay awhile... :D:

This week will tell us if the Cubs have a shot at the division or if they're folding, as they appear to be. It's absolutely brutal:

Home makeup game vs. Stl today,
3 games in Houston (where they were swept last time) Tue-Thurs,
then 4 in St. Louis including a Sat. split-double header Fri-Sun.

If the Cubs are good enough to grab back first after this week, they probably deserve it. We'll see...

PatK
09-10-2007, 11:02 AM
I don't mind the Cubs, it's the fans and media I can't stand.

Fenway
09-10-2007, 12:43 PM
Watching these teams stumble to the finish is great comedy

itsnotrequired
09-10-2007, 12:54 PM
Watching these teams stumble to the finish is great comedy

The Cubs don't even control their own destiny anymore (St. Louis still does though).

JimEdmonds15
09-10-2007, 01:09 PM
The Cubs don't even control their own destiny anymore (St. Louis still does though).

How? In all 3 games in Arizona they blew every game and got swept.. it's a bad year getting worse.. Chris Duncan is out for the year.. the positive to that is he hit like .100 since Mid July..

itsnotrequired
09-10-2007, 01:16 PM
How? In all 3 games in Arizona they blew every game and got swept.. it's a bad year getting worse.. Chris Duncan is out for the year.. the positive to that is he hit like .100 since Mid July..

The Cubs could win every game for the rest of the season and not be a lock for taking the division. If St. Louis wins the rest of their games, they clinch the division.

Neither of these scenarios are likely but there they are.

rookie
09-11-2007, 10:30 PM
:o:

NO NO NO!!!

If you really were a GOOD girlfriend, you would be doing EVERYTHING and ANYTHING in your power to try and convert him to being a Sox fan!!!

What kind of girlfriend are you?!?!?!?!? Your totally insane!!!

Obviously, I'm jokin around with you, but not entirely. You REALLY should be trying to convert him. Your sister as well!!! I'm sure that if you kept dropping hints and casual facts about why it is MUCH MUCH better to be a Sox fan, you could convert him eventually.

If he is a diehard cubs fan, it might be difficult, but not impossible! KEEP TRYING!!! In my experience, many cub "fans" have absolutely NO idea as to why they are cub fans. They are fans because their friends are, their boyfriend/girlfriend are (and they couldn't care less), they have bought into the hype about the urinal, etc., etc.

As I said, if he is a "true" cub fan, it might be hard, but not impossible. But if he is one of those fratboy types that just likes the cubs because he thinks it's "cool" to like the cubs, then you can most certainly convert him!!!

If he is intelligent and rational, you can just bring up the NUMEROUS facts and information that so many smart baseball fans have brought up here on WSI. If you hit him with all that, I can't see him still being a cub fan. It is your duty!!!:cool:

He is that frat boy type (opposites attract I guess), and I might have been able to convert him - if the Sox weren't tanking this season and the Cubs weren't in a race to be the tallest midget.

I actually know more about baseball than he does. His first Sox game ever with me (and 2nd overall) was Buerhle's no hitter. Didn't really understand the magnitude of what was going on. (My sister's guy did though. One of those Cub fans who actually know baseball. Even though he loves to throw the attendance trophy in my face over and over again - like I care).

Actually me being a die-hard Sox fan, has turned him on to baseball this year more than he watched before. Which unfortunately has turned him into more a Cub fan. Murphy's Law I guess. But we know that the Cubs will return back to the normal ways eventually and the Sox will rise again, and then the conversion will happen. Have faith my brother!

JB98
09-12-2007, 01:39 AM
I have neighbors who shout in ecstasy every time the Cubs score a run. Every once in awhile, I'll turn the Cubs game on as background noise, and then I'll fake an orgasm when the other team scores a run.

I hope my neighbors enjoyed my celebration of Luke Scott's game-winning double tonight. :D:

Go Brewers! Go Astros!

tick53
09-12-2007, 06:25 PM
I'll turn them on to see if they are losing and if they are, I'll keep them on for a minute or two. If they're winning, I can't grab my remote fast enough. To quote Doc Holliday in Tombstone: "How I really hate 'em".


Go Phillies!!!!!!!!

HomeFish
09-12-2007, 08:44 PM
It's really frustrating to watch the Brewers and Cardinals do everything they can to avoid winning what is an eminently winnable division for them.

At least I won't be in Chicago when the north side ballclub goes to the playoffs, as it seems they'll do.

MarySwiss
09-12-2007, 09:41 PM
It's really frustrating to watch the Brewers and Cardinals do everything they can to avoid winning what is an eminently winnable division for them.

At least I won't be in Chicago when the north side ballclub goes to the playoffs, as it seems they'll do.

Well, HomeFish; when you're right, you're right.

But keep your chin up. There is every reason to believe that even if they do make the playoffs, they'll crash and burn as they usually do.

kittle42
09-12-2007, 11:02 PM
The Brewers' bullpen has singlehandedly kept this a race.

JB98
09-13-2007, 02:06 AM
The Brewers' bullpen has singlehandedly kept this a race.

Derrick Turnbow is the Cubs' MVP this season.

veeter
09-13-2007, 07:11 AM
Why, Houston, why? You are so bad. Never let Dempster off the hook.

The Critic
09-13-2007, 08:37 AM
I've been comparing this "pennant race" to a drag race in reverse.
Whoever goes backwards the slowest "wins".

ondafarm
09-13-2007, 09:45 AM
There are a couple of players on the Cubs whom I think are good guys who I would root for if they played for any team (except the Yankee$ or Twins.) Derrick Lee because his uncle was a teammate for example. I also like Theriot's style of play. And honestly, I've always been a bit of a fan of Lou Pinnela. I like how he manages. But I rarely watch their games at all.

SBSoxFan
09-13-2007, 10:30 AM
win one, lose one, win one, lose two ...

It seems like the winner of the NL Central is going to have 83 wins again, except it's going to take 163 games to get there. :rolleyes:

russ99
09-13-2007, 10:31 AM
Why, Houston, why? You are so bad. Never let Dempster off the hook.

Eric Munson. I can think of three guys on that roster who should have been pinch-hitting in his place and could have beaten out that throw. Not sure what Cooper was thinking.

Anyway, no need crying over spilt milk. I'm sure the Cubs will find a way to blow today's game. :tongue:

Foulke You
09-13-2007, 12:18 PM
win one, lose one, win one, lose two ...

It seems like the winner of the NL Central is going to have 83 wins again, except it's going to take 163 games to get there. :rolleyes:
It's looking more and more like we may see the "Tallest Midget" game #163 this year between the Flubs and Brewers. The only downside is that the Cubs won the coin toss for that game. It will be at the Urinal if they play it. Considering how much better Milwaukee plays at Miller Park, that was a big coin toss they lost.

PatK
09-13-2007, 12:23 PM
I'm getting sick of people that just automatically assume because I'm in Chicago that I'm a Cubs fan.

I just got off the phone with a vendor, who when I picked up the call asked me "Are you looking forward to the Cubs winning some games?"

I said "No".

He asked if I was a Sox fan, and I said I was, but I really only have a problem with the Cubs when it comes to idiot Cubs fans trash talking. Other than that, I really don't care for them.

There is nothing funnier that having a conversation about baseball with a typical Cubs fan who gets their baseball insight by looking up stats in a paper.

What's funnier is that there are legions of fans who think they are a lock for the World Series because of what the Cards did last year.

kittle42
09-13-2007, 01:06 PM
It's looking more and more like we may see the "Tallest Midget" game #163 this year between the Flubs and Brewers. The only downside is that the Cubs won the coin toss for that game. It will be at the Urinal if they play it. Considering how much better Milwaukee plays at Miller Park, that was a big coin toss they lost.

They won the coin toss? I'm surpised I haven't seen any "2007 Tiebreaker Coin Toss Champions" hats in my neighborhood yet. What are they waiting for?

jenn2080
09-13-2007, 01:11 PM
They won the coin toss? I'm surpised I haven't seen any "2007 Tiebreaker Coin Toss Champions" hats in my neighborhood yet. What are they waiting for?


:rolling:

TommyJohn
09-13-2007, 01:53 PM
What's funnier is that there are legions of fans who think they are a lock for the World Series because of what the Cards did last year.

What is pathetic is that dopey media types are saying the same thing!
AAAGH!

itsnotrequired
09-13-2007, 01:59 PM
What is pathetic is that dopey media types are saying the same thing!
AAAGH!

Who is saying things like that?

ondafarm
09-13-2007, 02:12 PM
I'm getting sick of people that just automatically assume because I'm in Chicago that I'm a Cubs fan.

I just got off the phone with a vendor, who when I picked up the call asked me "Are you looking forward to the Cubs winning some games?"

I said "No".

He asked if I was a Sox fan, and I said I was, but I really only have a problem with the Cubs when it comes to idiot Cubs fans trash talking. Other than that, I really don't care for them.

There is nothing funnier that having a conversation about baseball with a typical Cubs fan who gets their baseball insight by looking up stats in a paper.

What's funnier is that there are legions of fans who think they are a lock for the World Series because of what the Cards did last year.

It was worse until 2005 when I lived in other parts of the country. A typical conversation in an NC bar, I am wearing a black cap with SOX on it.

NC local: "You a baseball fan, Chicago?"
Me: "Did my cap-wearing give that away?"
NC local: "How about them Cubs this year?"
Me: "Wouldn't know, not my team."
NC local: "Really!? Who then?"
Me: "The other team in Chicago."
NC local: "Whos dat?"
Me: "The Sox."
NC local: "A Big Papi and Manny."
Me: "No, the other Sox."
NC local: "There's another?"

soxfan13
09-13-2007, 02:31 PM
Who is saying things like that?


You know , all the media is saying it.:gulp:

TommyJohn
09-13-2007, 03:11 PM
Who is saying things like that?
Paul Sullivan has written it, for one. The Saturday morning Score guys
Abbatacola and Zaban (sp?) have also bleated it.

SBSoxFan
09-13-2007, 03:24 PM
Who is saying things like that?

I've heard some soundbite on 670AM along those lines.

SBSoxFan
09-13-2007, 03:25 PM
It's looking more and more like we may see the "Tallest Midget" game #163 this year between the Flubs and Brewers. The only downside is that the Cubs won the coin toss for that game. It will be at the Urinal if they play it. Considering how much better Milwaukee plays at Miller Park, that was a big coin toss they lost.

I didn't know about the coin toss. I agree; the home team wins in that situation.

Foulke You
09-13-2007, 05:34 PM
I didn't know about the coin toss. I agree; the home team wins in that situation.
The way the Sun Times said it, the Cubs lost a coin toss with St Louis should they be tied, and won the coin toss against Milwaukee should they be tied. If there is a 3 way tie for 1st, the team with the best combined head to head record against the other two teams would automatically get a spot in the "play-in" game. The other two teams would then play a playoff game to see who plays the team who had the best head to head record requiring them to play in 164 games to get in the playoffs. Confused yet?:D:

itsnotrequired
09-13-2007, 06:32 PM
Paul Sullivan has written it, for one. The Saturday morning Score guys
Abbatacola and Zaban (sp?) have also bleated it.

Linkage, please. And comments along the lines of "if the Cubs get in, it doesn't matter what their regular season record was because look what happened to the Cardinals last year", then they don't mean anything. It is a true statement.

If they say "the Cubs will win it all because the Cardinals did it last year", then they are indeed idiots...but I have a feeling no one has said anything like that.

SOXPHILE
09-14-2007, 10:55 AM
They won the coin toss? I'm surpised I haven't seen any "2007 Tiebreaker Coin Toss Champions" hats in my neighborhood yet. What are they waiting for?


Don't give them any ideas.


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SBSoxFan
09-14-2007, 11:19 AM
The way the Sun Times said it, the Cubs lost a coin toss with St Louis should they be tied, and won the coin toss against Milwaukee should they be tied. If there is a 3 way tie for 1st, the team with the best combined head to head record against the other two teams would automatically get a spot in the "play-in" game. The other two teams would then play a playoff game to see who plays the team who had the best head to head record requiring them to play in 164 games to get in the playoffs. Confused yet?:D:

Surprisingly no. This wrap-around weekend will tell if anyone needs to worry about St. Louis.

Would 2 extra regular season games push back the start of the divisional series?

Zisk77
09-14-2007, 03:13 PM
Who? There is baseball in Chicago besides the Sox. Never heard of it.:D:

soxwon
09-14-2007, 10:43 PM
THe N.L. announced if the Cubs/Brewers make the playoffs, the teams are so bad, the first game has been forfeited by the winner of the N.L. Central.
This way its 2 and done for them.

veeter
09-14-2007, 10:54 PM
THe N.L. announced if the Cubs/Brewers make the playoffs, the teams are so bad, the first game has been forfeited by the winner of the N.L. Central.
This way its 2 and done for them.Originally, Selig wasn't going to allow an NL central team in, period. But he wants to have Dempster there for entertainment purposes. So your NL announcement stands.

veeter
09-17-2007, 02:56 PM
Dempster, I'm sorry. (removing all bad carma)

October26
09-17-2007, 03:09 PM
Who? There is baseball in Chicago besides the Sox. Never heard of it.:D:

:rolling:

WizardsofOzzie
09-17-2007, 04:08 PM
They won the coin toss? I'm surpised I haven't seen any "2007 Tiebreaker Coin Toss Champions" hats in my neighborhood yet. What are they waiting for?

I can see the 2007 Coin Toss winner t-shirts flying off shelves now

WhiteSoxFan84
09-17-2007, 04:33 PM
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Go Cubbies! Woooooo!
Let's Go Cubbies! Clap, Clap! Clap, Clap, Clap!Let's Go Cubbies!

Foulke You
09-17-2007, 05:18 PM
Did anyone notice they started the "Cubs Magic Number" countdown in the Sun Times over the weekend? They're doing this with the Cubs holding only a 1 game lead! What are they going to do if the Brewers pass them this week? I guess this shouldn't surprise me since they did it in '04 as well when they had the Wild Card magic number countdown with the Cubs only 2 games up. It was really entertaining to see the countdown stay the same for days and then disappear when the Cubs ended up blowing it in the last week of the season. Hopefully, we get treated to the same entertainment this year.:cool:

Sad
09-19-2007, 01:57 PM
I don't mind the Cubs, it's the fans and media I can't stand.


yep, that's how I feel too...

I follow a lot of baseball with the extra innings package... every season...
a couple of these divisions are gonna go to the wire this year