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Walker29
08-27-2007, 03:50 PM
Myself and 4 others will be in the bleachers Friday and Saturday night. Staying at the Marriott Downtown Key Center and going to the Football HOF on Saturday during the day. Looking forward to a fun weekend, hoping the Sox play as well as they did last time they were in Cleveland. Going to hit the Blind Pig, Winking Lizard, any good places for Steak, BBQ? Probably won't have time for the Rock n Roll HOF. Any good hints for the ballpark, good food, good beer? Do they have Great Lakes beer at the Jake? I'll be in the LF bleachers with my black Walker #29 jersey.

jenn2080
08-27-2007, 04:06 PM
Myself and 4 others will be in the bleachers Friday and Saturday night. Staying at the Marriott Downtown Key Center and going to the Football HOF on Saturday during the day. Looking forward to a fun weekend, hoping the Sox play as well as they did last time they were in Cleveland. Going to hit the Blind Pig, Winking Lizard, any good places for Steak, BBQ? Probably won't have time for the Rock n Roll HOF. Any good hints for the ballpark, good food, good beer? Do they have Great Lakes beer at the Jake? I'll be in the LF bleachers with my black Walker #29 jersey.


Be prepared to be heckled like no other

Walker29
08-27-2007, 04:13 PM
I'll be prepared...maybe I will just go with a subtle hat on Friday and see how that goes before putting the jersey on Saturday. However, I've been to more than a few parks including Yankee Stadium and Fenway and not experienced anything too bad.

Scottiehaswheels
08-27-2007, 04:32 PM
I'll be prepared...maybe I will just go with a subtle hat on Friday and see how that goes before putting the jersey on Saturday. However, I've been to more than a few parks including Yankee Stadium and Fenway and not experienced anything too bad.You haven't been to Jacob's.....

jenn2080
08-27-2007, 04:43 PM
I'll be prepared...maybe I will just go with a subtle hat on Friday and see how that goes before putting the jersey on Saturday. However, I've been to more than a few parks including Yankee Stadium and Fenway and not experienced anything too bad.


Don't speak to soon. Cleveland is a whole different breed. And since we ABSOLUTELY SUCK, they will be in rare form.

mrfourni
08-27-2007, 04:46 PM
I'll be prepared...maybe I will just go with a subtle hat on Friday and see how that goes before putting the jersey on Saturday. However, I've been to more than a few parks including Yankee Stadium and Fenway and not experienced anything too bad.

I was there last year at the end of the season wearing a sox jersey and hat. As long as you mind your own business and try not to instigate too much, you'll be fine.

Chez
08-27-2007, 05:05 PM
I was there last year at the end of the season wearing a sox jersey and hat. As long as you mind your own business and try not to instigate too much, you'll be fine.

Words to live by. Plus, for reasons I don't understand, Indians fans aren't exactly flocking to the Jake. Anyone know why their attendance numbers aren't better?

C-Dawg
08-27-2007, 05:11 PM
Plus, for reasons I don't understand, Indians fans aren't exactly flocking to the Jake?

I noticed that too; tickets were still available as of yesterday on indians.com. I bought tickets for Saturdays and Sundays games but I'm currently undecided if I'm going since other things have since come up.

I've only been there once, and I was harassed and sworn at several times. Maybe I looked like a likely target for harassment wearing my highly visible Winning Ugly jersey.

:o:

DumpJerry
08-27-2007, 05:35 PM
I'll be at Saturday night's game. I'll be removed in a body bag since I will be wearing my brand-new Thome Sox logo shirt........

ilsox7
08-27-2007, 05:54 PM
I was there last year at the end of the season wearing a sox jersey and hat. As long as you mind your own business and try not to instigate too much, you'll be fine.

Yep. When I lived in Cleveland I had no problems. Generally, the way people have problems at visiting parks is when they are obnoxious.

Walker29
08-27-2007, 06:13 PM
By no means do I ever or plan on acting like a jackass in our or anybody else's park, so I'm not too worried. That being said I'll keep my eye out for any bodybags being escorted out of the "Jake" and be sure to buy it a beer.

BainesHOF
08-28-2007, 02:11 AM
Myself and 4 others will be in the bleachers Friday and Saturday night. Staying at the Marriott Downtown Key Center and going to the Football HOF on Saturday during the day. Looking forward to a fun weekend, hoping the Sox play as well as they did last time they were in Cleveland. Going to hit the Blind Pig, Winking Lizard, any good places for Steak, BBQ? Probably won't have time for the Rock n Roll HOF. Any good hints for the ballpark, good food, good beer? Do they have Great Lakes beer at the Jake? I'll be in the LF bleachers with my black Walker #29 jersey.

I'd figure out a way to hit the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. It's the best thing in Cleveland.

DumpJerry
08-28-2007, 08:24 AM
I'd figure out a way to hit the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. It's the only thing in Cleveland.
Fixed it for ya. We're talking about Cleveland, after all. This is not London, Paris, Rome, New York, Omaha, etc......

Standing Ovation
08-28-2007, 08:56 AM
Don't forget...


http://www.achristmasstoryhouse.com/

Fenway
08-28-2007, 09:12 AM
Words to live by. Plus, for reasons I don't understand, Indians fans aren't exactly flocking to the Jake. Anyone know why their attendance numbers aren't better?

I asked Sheldon Ocker of the Akron paper that question when we were out there. What he said..


The 1999 playoff collapse to Boston hurt badly
Then NOT going all out to resign Manny and then others.
The return of the Browns. Many who had invested in season tickets to the Tribe reinvested the money when the Browns came backPlus he added Cleveland is a poor city and most are just getting by. They still go to games but not as many as before

Chez
08-28-2007, 09:19 AM
I asked Sheldon Ocker of the Akron paper that question when we were out there. What he said..


The 1999 playoff collapse to Boston hurt badly
Then NOT going all out to resign Manny and then others.
The return of the Browns. Many who had invested in season tickets to the Tribe reinvested the money when the Browns came backPlus he added Cleveland is a poor city and most are just getting by. They still go to games but not as many as before

Thanks, Fen. Beautiful ballpark, exciting/winning team -- With a decent walk-up, I still can't figure why at least 30,000 aren't there every night.

The Immigrant
08-28-2007, 09:25 AM
I asked Sheldon Ocker of the Akron paper that question when we were out there. What he said..

The 1999 playoff collapse to Boston hurt badly
Then NOT going all out to resign Manny and then others.
The return of the Browns. Many who had invested in season tickets to the Tribe reinvested the money when the Browns came backPlus he added Cleveland is a poor city and most are just getting by. They still go to games but not as many as before

I would also to this list add the resurgence of the Cavaliers with LeBron James and the fans' disillusionment with the new ownership group.

Fenway
08-28-2007, 09:27 AM
I would also to this list add the resurgence of the Cavaliers with LeBron James and the fans' disillusionment with the new ownership group.

The Cavs kllled the AHL hockey team completly and they moved to Worcester last year.

Still I agree, how do you go from 455 straight sellouts to apathy

Trav
08-28-2007, 10:44 AM
I have been to a few games in Cleveland against the Sox this year and the most I had happen to me was a couple of peanuts thrown at me after cheering a great catch by Dye. It was good natured and not a big deal at all. Saturdays game will packed since they are giving away blankets. Yesterday we tried to get bleacher seats but they were sold out so we had to get upper deck seats. I'll be going to all three games most likely. Jacobs Field is my favorite park by far.

soxwon
08-28-2007, 05:17 PM
I was there last year at the end of the season wearing a sox jersey and hat. As long as you mind your own business and try not to instigate too much, you'll be fine.

find a cheap indians cap and wear it.
just root for the sox in your head and heart.
no one will bother you.

chisoxfanatic
08-28-2007, 05:40 PM
find a cheap indians cap and wear it.
just root for the sox in your head and heart.
no one will bother you.
If you're REALLY nervous about being mistreated at another ballpark, you can always go without wearing a single article of sports clothing. But, from my own thoughts, if you mind your own business, things aren't likely to happen to you.

jdm2662
08-28-2007, 05:54 PM
I asked Sheldon Ocker of the Akron paper that question when we were out there. What he said..


The 1999 playoff collapse to Boston hurt badly
Then NOT going all out to resign Manny and then others.
The return of the Browns. Many who had invested in season tickets to the Tribe reinvested the money when the Browns came backPlus he added Cleveland is a poor city and most are just getting by. They still go to games but not as many as before

That right there. Cleveland is a football town. Always has, and always is.

skobabe8
08-28-2007, 06:31 PM
find a cheap indians cap and wear it.
just root for the sox in your head and heart.
no one will bother you.

:?:

Trav
08-28-2007, 09:34 PM
With respect to the "Cleveland fans will beat you up" theme in this thread, I have to wonder how many of those who claim that you can't normally root for the Sox at Jacobs Field have actually been victim to violence there. My guess is that just like on the Southside, nothing bad will happen to you if you don't act like an ass, but through people who have "heard stories" there is a bad reputation.

I went to Opening Day with and Jndians fan this year and he was shocked that people were nice to him because he thought he was going to get jumped as soon as he got out of the car with his clown hat and jacket on. I mean, Jndians hat and jacket on. I asked him why he thought that and he didn't know, just things he heard. We Sox fans always hate when we get talked bad about for the area Sox park is in, the least we could do is show the same respect for other parks that we don't have personal experience with.

MICROblue
08-28-2007, 09:57 PM
I relocated to Cleveland in Sept 2006 for my job. I have been to every game the Sox have played here since, always wearing my Konerko WS road jersey. Never once did I experience anything but good natured ribbing. Generally, the local fans are friendly. Ozzie and Thome will get heckled much more than any fan in the stands. Near the dugout they still give the choke sign to Ozzie and waive money at Thome. I'll be at all 3 games wearing my jersey.

TIP: While the Jake is a great park, the food does not compare to the Cell. I don't suggest buying dogs from the vendors. There is only one stand in the whole park to get grilled dogs/sausage with onions. It is down the right field line on the main concourse before the corner, about 15 feet behind the last row of seats. This is the place to eat.

ilsox7
08-28-2007, 10:03 PM
I relocated to Cleveland in Sept 2006 for my job. I have been to every game the Sox have played here since, always wearing my Konerko WS road jersey. Never once did I experience anything but good natured ribbing. Generally, the local fans are friendly. Ozzie and Thome will get heckled much more than any fan in the stands. Near the dugout they still give the choke sign to Ozzie and waive money at Thome. I'll be at all 3 games wearing my jersey.

TIP: While the Jake is a great park, the food does not compare to the Cell. I don't suggest buying dogs from the vendors. There is only one stand in the whole park to get grilled dogs/sausage with onions. It is down the right field line on the main concourse before the corner, about 15 feet behind the last row of seats. This is the place to eat.

The fresh lemonade on the Home Run Porch is also quite good. I used to get a $5 ticket, a lemonade, and stand on the Porch. Good times.

Stormin' Norm
08-29-2007, 03:46 PM
I've lived in the Cleveland Area for almost two years and have been to almost a dozen Tribe v. Sox games. I typically wear some type of Sox clothing and have only once been heckled, and it was nothing major.

Now Browns Stadium is a completely different story. I went the regular season Browns v. Bears game in 05' with my wife. We both had Bears gear on, and it got quite hostile with the name calling and object throwing. At one point the entire section we were sitting in took part in a cheer using a derogatory term towards her. Needless to say, there is not a whole lot you can do but leave.

Fenway
08-29-2007, 04:11 PM
.

Now Browns Stadium is a completely different story. .

It maybe worse than Liverpool......


http://bengals.enquirer.com/img/photos/2001/12/121801bottlefan_zoom.jpghttp://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/060907/060907_browns_vmed_2p.widec.jpg

Walker29
08-29-2007, 06:01 PM
Browns fans are rediculous. I was at the Bears vs. Browns game in 2001 at Soldier Field. The "Miracle on the Midway" game with the James Allen Hail Mary catch and Mike Brown interception return TD in OT. It was all Browns until the end of the game and their were some Dog-faced goofballs that were relentless with their taunting even at Soldier Field. Looking forward to Cleveland looks like we'll be throwing Buehrle and Javy on Friday and Saturday nights.

DumpJerry
08-29-2007, 06:30 PM
I guess my brother told the locals what I will be wearing Saturday at the game.


The Cuyahoga County Coronor called to see what size body bag I need....

DumpJerry
09-01-2007, 11:58 PM
Well, I was at the game tonight. No body bag was needed for me. However, I almost put a Tribe fan in one. This group of teenaged boys were sitting behind me. One was a real Einstein when it came to math. Kept telling me the score. In my ear. I ignored him all game long. Then the game ended and he broke the cardinal rule of trash talking. He made body contact with me. He put his hand on my shoulder and left it there, trying to get my attention. I ignored it. He held my shoulder a little tighter. I wheeled around and he said "7-0." I said he was real good with numbers. Must be a math whiz in school. He knew I was pissed about him touching me and backed off.

Got back to the car. My friend had one of those fake baseballs/broken window sickers on the back of her car with a Sox logo on it. Some low-life Tribe fan broke off the baseball and threw it down on the ground. :angry: My friend's 8 and 11 year old kids started to bawl over the crude act of vandalism. They swore they would never return to Cleveland, the people are too mean.

chisoxfanatic
09-02-2007, 12:14 AM
Well, I was at the game tonight. No body bag was needed for me. However, I almost put a Tribe fan in one. This group of teenaged boys were sitting behind me. One was a real Einstein when it came to math. Kept telling me the score. In my ear. I ignored him all game long. Then the game ended and he broke the cardinal rule of trash talking. He made body contact with me. He put his hand on my shoulder and left it there, trying to get my attention. I ignored it. He held my shoulder a little tighter. I wheeled around and he said "7-0." I said he was real good with numbers. Must be a math whiz in school. He knew I was pissed about him touching me and backed off.

Got back to the car. My friend had one of those fake baseballs/broken window sickers on the back of her car with a Sox logo on it. Some low-life Tribe fan broke off the baseball and threw it down on the ground. :angry: My friend's 8 and 11 year old kids started to bawl over the crude act of vandalism. They swore they would never return to Cleveland, the people are too mean.
Did you ask the class Valedictorian what the Atlanta Braves and Florida Marlins have in common, as well as when the last time they won a championship in ANY sport?

Trav
09-02-2007, 01:45 AM
I don't mean to sound mean or anything, but an 11 year old was bawling about a sticker?

DumpJerry
09-02-2007, 08:41 AM
Did you ask the class Valedictorian what the Atlanta Braves and Florida Marlins have in common, as well as when the last time they won a championship in ANY sport?

What do the Braves and Marlins have to do with the Indians?

I don't mean to sound mean or anything, but an 11 year old was bawling about a sticker?

It was her property. It was violated.

chisoxfanatic
09-02-2007, 12:05 PM
What do the Braves and Marlins have to do with the Indians?
They both beat the Indians in the World Series (1995 and 1997).

TDog
09-02-2007, 12:27 PM
They both beat the Indians in the World Series (1995 and 1997).

And it's my feelings for teams like Cleveland, and the Yankees and the Tigers and the Red Sox etc. that usually have me cheering for the National League team int he World Series. This year the only AL teams currently in the playoff hunt that I could support in the Series are the Angels and Mariners. As long as I don't hate the National League team more, I would always root against the Indians in the World Series.

chisoxfanatic
09-02-2007, 12:45 PM
And it's my feelings for teams like Cleveland, and the Yankees and the Tigers and the Red Sox etc. that usually have me cheering for the National League team int he World Series. This year the only AL teams currently in the playoff hunt that I could support in the Series are the Angels and Mariners. As long as I don't hate the National League team more, I would always root against the Indians in the World Series.
I hear you on that. The team who's I'm pulling HARD for come the playoffs is the Angels.

TDog
09-02-2007, 01:57 PM
I hear you on that. The team who's I'm pulling HARD for come the playoffs is the Angels.

The funny thing is, when I was living in Southwestern Arizona and the only Sox games I saw were the ones I drove to Anaheim to see (and the Angels games in Chicago that were broadcast on KTLA, which was on cable), I hated the Angels. But their fans weren't jerks.

I pretty much dislike every American League team aside from the White Sox, but the Angels are one of the few AL teams I wouldn't mind see win.

Fenway
09-02-2007, 02:06 PM
The funny thing is, when I was living in Southwestern Arizona and the only Sox games I saw were the ones I drove to Anaheim to see (and the Angels games in Chicago that were broadcast on KTLA, which was on cable), I hated the Angels. But their fans weren't jerks.

I pretty much dislike every American League team aside from the White Sox, but the Angels are one of the few AL teams I wouldn't mind see win.

Do we really want thundersticks and rally monkeys again?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bga4vLTOJ4U

TDog
09-02-2007, 11:02 PM
Do we really want thundersticks and rally monkeys again?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bga4vLTOJ4U

If I don't watch the games, and I don't, I only have to deal with obnoxious fans all winter. On that score, my dislike scale finds the Yankees worse than the Red Sox, AL Central will make it to the postseason.

chisoxfanatic
09-02-2007, 11:09 PM
Do we really want thundersticks and rally monkeys again?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bga4vLTOJ4U

Yes, yes, and yes! I don't care about rally monkeys! I just don't want the heads of Red Sox Nation to be any bigger than they already are, and Yankee fans to experience *another* title. Go Angels!

Walker29
09-03-2007, 11:29 AM
Got back Sunday from Cleveland just in time to see the Sox close out the 8-0 victory. I guess I brought the curse with me, but I'm glad Contreras is regaining his lost form. Friday's game was disappointing to say the least, but no problems from Cleveland fans. I found the ones in my section to be respectful (except for the Thome boo-ing which is a lot louder in person) Saturday's game could have got a lot uglier. There was a group of Sox fans a section over from me who started a "Let's Go White Sox" chant that didn't go over well with the Cleveland faithful...after the Jerry Owens caught stealing I thought they were going to get lynched. All in all had a great time in Cleveland, thought the Jake was a great facility with cheap and big beers, the bars around the park were fun, food was pretty good (outside the ballpark), and the Football HOF is a must see if you are ever in the area!

DumpJerry
09-03-2007, 08:56 PM
One other follow up from Saturday's game. During BP, you can send a text message to the Indians and then they show it on the scoreboard. Well, I figured I'd have to keep it clean to have a chance of getting past the screeners deep in bowls of The Jake. I sent the following text "The White Sox won the World Series in 2005. When was the last time the Tribe won?"

I got an automatic response thanking me for texting ended with "Go Tribe!"

Then they stopped showing the messages on scoreboard for a pregame promo of a local labor union that had its members walking around the field. Oh well.

One of my friends asked the Tribe fan sitting next to her why he booed Thome. His response was "well I have to." implying that he would get beat up by the other Tribe fans in attendance.

The only cool thing about the game was afterwards, they showed the movie "The Natural" on the jumbotron. You can sit in any open seat in the ballpark for the show or pay $10 to sit on the outfield and get popcorn and pop. It was pretty cool, maybe the Sox could do it if Roger does not have a stroke...

soxwon
09-03-2007, 10:12 PM
I for one are glad, the injuns are going to win this division.
They play like a real team.l
I hate detroit n minnesota.

jenn2080
09-04-2007, 11:42 AM
One other follow up from Saturday's game. During BP, you can send a text message to the Indians and then they show it on the scoreboard. Well, I figured I'd have to keep it clean to have a chance of getting past the screeners deep in bowls of The Jake. I sent the following text "The White Sox won the World Series in 2005. When was the last time the Tribe won?"

I got an automatic response thanking me for texting ended with "Go Tribe!"

Then they stopped showing the messages on scoreboard for a pregame promo of a local labor union that had its members walking around the field. Oh well.

One of my friends asked the Tribe fan sitting next to her why he booed Thome. His response was "well I have to." implying that he would get beat up by the other Tribe fans in attendance.

The only cool thing about the game was afterwards, they showed the movie "The Natural" on the jumbotron. You can sit in any open seat in the ballpark for the show or pay $10 to sit on the outfield and get popcorn and pop. It was pretty cool, maybe the Sox could do it if Roger does not have a stroke...

That is classy!

Trav
09-05-2007, 12:46 AM
One other follow up from Saturday's game. During BP, you can send a text message to the Indians and then they show it on the scoreboard. Well, I figured I'd have to keep it clean to have a chance of getting past the screeners deep in bowls of The Jake. I sent the following text "The White Sox won the World Series in 2005. When was the last time the Tribe won?"

I got an automatic response thanking me for texting ended with "Go Tribe!"

Then they stopped showing the messages on scoreboard for a pregame promo of a local labor union that had its members walking around the field. Oh well.

One of my friends asked the Tribe fan sitting next to her why he booed Thome. His response was "well I have to." implying that he would get beat up by the other Tribe fans in attendance.

The only cool thing about the game was afterwards, they showed the movie "The Natural" on the jumbotron. You can sit in any open seat in the ballpark for the show or pay $10 to sit on the outfield and get popcorn and pop. It was pretty cool, maybe the Sox could do it if Roger does not have a stroke...


You are ridiculous. They send "go tribe" to every text that they receive. They don't show texts that are not Cleveland friendly for obvious reasons. This is not a hard concept. As for your new Jndian friend being afraid to not boo Thome, Did you get beat up for not booing him? You are trying to hard to find fault with the Cleveland faithful, which is a shame because Clevelanders are from Cleveland so it isn't that hard to find fault with them.

DumpJerry
09-05-2007, 07:44 AM
You are ridiculous. They send "go tribe" to every text that they receive. They don't show texts that are not Cleveland friendly for obvious reasons. This is not a hard concept. As for your new Jndian friend being afraid to not boo Thome, Did you get beat up for not booing him? You are trying to hard to find fault with the Cleveland faithful, which is a shame because Clevelanders are from Cleveland so it isn't that hard to find fault with them.
:?: I'm not sure what you're problem is, but I said that the response I got from the text was an automatic response. Right after I got the response, they stopped showing the text messages, I'm sure it had nothing to do with the fact that I send a less than friendly text to them.

I'm not the one who talked with the Tribe fan who said he felt he had to boo Thome. I did not talk with any of the Tribe faithful sitting around me, just a Sox fan who was two seats over from me.

Re-read my post, I think you missed some of the words in it.

C-Dawg
09-05-2007, 08:17 AM
Anybody else get caught in the traffic that surrounds Jacob's Field after any of the games this past weekend? I waited about 45 minutes after the game ended before getting up to start the walk down to the exits, figuring that would be enough elapsed time to allow the parking garage to empty out (I remember being unable to back my car out for nearly an hour when I was there previously). Unfortunately the garage was still in a state of gridlock, and upon exiting to the streets there were officers directing everyone right into the thick of the traffic jam. A full 90 minutes after the game ended I was still within sight of the Gund Arena (sorry, the "Quicken Loans Arena").

MarySwiss
09-05-2007, 09:17 AM
Do we really want thundersticks and rally monkeys again?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bga4vLTOJ4U

Yes, yes, and yes! I don't care about rally monkeys! I just don't want the heads of Red Sox Nation to be any bigger than they already are, and Yankee fans to experience *another* title. Go Angels!

Absolutely Go Angels!

Fens, I'm not sure you realize just how sick a lot of us are of the Red Sox fans. The only way I'd root for the Red Sox to win the ALCS is if they were facing the Twins.

soxstarter
09-05-2007, 10:55 PM
I don't mean to sound mean or anything, but an 11 year old was bawling about a sticker?

Yeap, that would have been my daughter and she was upset because it was a gift from a friend (in addition to the obvious White Sox significance).

You are ridiculous. They send "go tribe" to every text that they receive. They don't show texts that are not Cleveland friendly for obvious reasons. This is not a hard concept. As for your new Jndian friend being afraid to not boo Thome, Did you get beat up for not booing him? You are trying to hard to find fault with the Cleveland faithful, which is a shame because Clevelanders are from Cleveland so it isn't that hard to find fault with them.

Dump had a great text which would have looked great on the board, of course both he and I knew it would not be shown.

My Cleveland neighbor and I had a friendly banter as he booed and I cheered Thome. As far as Dump getting beat up, I think they took pity on us all when the team took the beating it got. At least we recovered the next day.

Walker29
09-07-2007, 01:55 PM
Bill Simmons the Sports Guy wrote a funny piece on the Red Sox Nation in the last ESPN the Magazine. Kind of explains what many feel about the Red Sox fanbase.