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balke
08-19-2007, 02:04 PM
Its super long shot atm, but he's set himself up pretty nicely to attack 20. Its worth keeping an eye on.

After seeing what happened to Kerry Wood's career, does this record mean much?

And, If Johan could snag 20 or even 21 in a game Is it time to look at him as someone who will match or better the career achievements of Roger Clemens? Or perhaps better put, is he as dominant as Clemens was when he was this young?

pierzynski07
08-19-2007, 02:20 PM
11K after 5

PKalltheway
08-19-2007, 02:23 PM
I remember in Randy Johnson's 20 strikeout game, he had 12 strikeouts through 5 innings. If Santana can strikeout the side in the 5th inning, he'll be in really good shape.

Edit: I didn't see the post above. He's in good shape now!

pierzynski07
08-19-2007, 02:25 PM
He has to go 9/12 to tie.

balke
08-19-2007, 02:26 PM
I remember in Randy Johnson's 20 strikeout game, he had 12 strikeouts through 5 innings. If Santana can strikeout the side in the 5th inning, he'll be in really good shape.

Clemens had 12 through 5 as well. 11 isn't so bad though, I'm pulling for him at this point to keep going strong.

PKalltheway
08-19-2007, 02:30 PM
After seeing what happened to Kerry Wood's career, does this record mean much?

Hell yes. 20 strikeouts in a game is still a huge feat. There have been more players who have hit 4 homers in a game than players who have struck out 20 in a game. Think of it this way, if the game goes 9 innings, or the pitcher in question throws 9 innings and strikes out 20, 20 of the 27 outs recorded were by strikeout.:o:

I'm with you though, I'm pulling for Santana as well. He's the only Twins player I really care for.

balke
08-19-2007, 02:35 PM
No K's in the 6th, pretty much won't happen now. I think he'll tie the record in his career at least though.

pierzynski07
08-19-2007, 02:39 PM
Jinxer.

JermaineDye05
08-19-2007, 02:45 PM
Baseball sure is a crazy game. To think pitchers like Santana and Clemens (in his prime) with such over powering stuff who can just shut an offense down do not have a no hitter, and our very own Mark Buehrle who relies on the offense to put the ball in play and let his defenders take over already has one.

JermaineDye05
08-19-2007, 02:53 PM
14 k's through 7 and he hasn't even reached 100 pitches yet, amazing.

JermaineDye05
08-19-2007, 02:55 PM
Anyone else notice a lot of huge pitching performances coming against the Rangers. Buehrle's no-no, Phil Hughes almost no-no, and now Santana's 14 k's. Another special note some big performances by pitchers out of the AL Central, 2 no hitters, and this 14 k game, just a funny coincidence but something that shows how dominating the pitching in the Central really is.

Sockinchisox
08-19-2007, 03:10 PM
Jesus, 17 Ks through 8.

JermaineDye05
08-19-2007, 03:11 PM
17 k's all he needs to do now is strike out the side in the 9th. 83 pitches for strikes of his 112.....wow.

balke
08-19-2007, 03:12 PM
112 pitches, what do you do here? Protect the arm and the lead, or chase history?

JermaineDye05
08-19-2007, 03:13 PM
112 pitches, what do you do here? Protect the arm and the lead, or chase history?

I say let him chase history, if he doesn't strike out the first guy then bring in Nathan. I think they just want to see him get to 20.

JermaineDye05
08-19-2007, 03:20 PM
I say let him chase history, if he doesn't strike out the first guy then bring in Nathan. I think they just want to see him get to 20.

So much for that, Nathan in.

Hats off to Santana, what a game.

balke
08-19-2007, 03:20 PM
Nevermind he's out. Tough call, but you don't want to mess up this guys arm. Still makes you wonder if it was going to happen though. I don't think anyone wants to be Dusty Baker anymore though.

DSpivack
08-19-2007, 10:16 PM
Anyone else notice a lot of huge pitching performances coming against the Rangers. Buehrle's no-no, Phil Hughes almost no-no, and now Santana's 14 k's. Another special note some big performances by pitchers out of the AL Central, 2 no hitters, and this 14 k game, just a funny coincidence but something that shows how dominating the pitching in the Central really is.

And how bad the Rangers are.

Dan Mega
08-19-2007, 10:44 PM
Is it too early to throw his name in as potentially being one of the all-time greats when all is said and done?

soxfanreggie
08-19-2007, 10:55 PM
I don't think it's too early to throw his name out, but it will have to be kicked around for a lot more years to make a final decision.

I do hate when he pitches against the Sox, but no matter what team he's on, it was an absolutely solid pitching performance.

Patrick134
08-20-2007, 04:01 PM
Is it too early to throw his name in as potentially being one of the all-time greats when all is said and done?

Yes. he's had an amazing few seasons, but it takes more longevity to join the elite.

TDog
08-20-2007, 04:20 PM
Anyone else notice a lot of huge pitching performances coming against the Rangers. Buehrle's no-no, Phil Hughes almost no-no, and now Santana's 14 k's. ...

Maybe they should fire their hitting coach.

mealfred13
08-22-2007, 09:04 PM
Maybe they should fire their hitting coach.

He might be getting a bonus after today's game :tongue: