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Rockabilly
08-17-2007, 03:36 PM
If the Sox were playing the 7th game of the world series which pitcher in their prime would you want on the mound...

My vote would go for Buehrle

DrewSox56
08-17-2007, 03:54 PM
Buehrle hands down.

Black Jack (post season):


Year Round Tm Opp WLser G GS ERA W L SV CG IP H ER BB SO
+------+-----+---+---+-----+---+---+------+--+--+--+--+-----+---+---+---+---+
1993 ALCS (http://www.baseball-reference.com/postseason/1993_ALCS.shtml) CHW (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CHW/1993.shtml) TOR (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/TOR/1993.shtml) L 2 2 10.00 0 2 0 0 9 18 10 5 5
1995 ALDS (http://www.baseball-reference.com/postseason/1995_ALDS2.shtml) NYY (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYY/1995.shtml) SEA (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/SEA/1995.shtml) L 2 1 9.00 0 2 0 0 7 8 7 4 6
1996 ALDS (http://www.baseball-reference.com/postseason/1996_ALDS1.shtml) CLE (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CLE/1996.shtml) BAL (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/BAL/1996.shtml) L 1 1 6.35 0 0 0 0 5.2 6 4 1 5
+------+-----+---+---+-----+---+---+------+--+--+--+--+-----+---+---+---+---+
2 Lg Div Series 0-2 3 2 7.82 0 2 0 0 12.2 14 11 5 11
3 Postseason Ser 0-3 5 4 8.72 0 4 0 0 21.2 32 21 10 16
+------------------+-----+---+---+------+--+--+--+--+-----+---+---+---+---+


Burls (post season):


Year Round Tm Opp WLser G GS ERA W L SV CG IP H ER BB SO
+------+-----+---+---+-----+---+---+------+--+--+--+--+-----+---+---+---+---+
2000 ALDS (http://www.baseball-reference.com/postseason/2000_ALDS2.shtml) CHW (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CHW/2000.shtml) SEA (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/SEA/2000.shtml) L 1 0 0.00 0 0 0 0 0.1 2 0 0 1
2005 ALDS (http://www.baseball-reference.com/postseason/2005_ALDS1.shtml) CHW (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CHW/2005.shtml) BOS (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/BOS/2005.shtml) W 1 1 5.14 1 0 0 0 7 8 4 1 2
ALCS (http://www.baseball-reference.com/postseason/2005_ALCS.shtml) CHW (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CHW/2005.shtml) LAA (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/LAA/2005.shtml) W 1 1 1.00 1 0 0 1 9 5 1 0 4
WS (http://www.baseball-reference.com/postseason/2005_WS.shtml) CHW (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CHW/2005.shtml) HOU (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/HOU/2005.shtml) W 2 1 4.91 0 0 1 0 7.1 7 4 0 6
+------+-----+---+---+-----+---+---+------+--+--+--+--+-----+---+---+---+---+
2 Lg Div Series 1-1 2 1 4.91 1 0 0 0 7.1 10 4 1 3
4 Postseason Ser 3-1 5 3 3.42 2 0 1 1 23.2 22 9 1 13
+------------------+-----+---+---+------+--+--+--+--+-----+---+---+---+---+

JohnTucker0814
08-17-2007, 03:59 PM
Who's to say Buehrle is even in his prime yet. This year seems to be shaping up better than any other year, era wise.

Steelrod
08-17-2007, 04:18 PM
Buehrle, McDowell is too old!

HomeFish
08-17-2007, 04:39 PM
Jack McDowell has never recorded a save. Unlike Buehrle.

eriqjaffe
08-17-2007, 04:42 PM
Man, I had forgotten that Black Jack spent a year in the Bronx.

Oh, and look, we got Keith Heberling andLyle Mouton for him!

Lip Man 1
08-17-2007, 04:43 PM
In fairness to Jack (and Alex Fernandez) a few years after the 93 ALCS, Cito Gaston admitted that both Sox pitchers were tipping their pitches and that in addition the Jays were stealing the Sox signs.

Lip

thomas35forever
08-17-2007, 04:46 PM
Buehrle, duh!:redneck

DumpJerry
08-17-2007, 05:18 PM
Buehrle, McDowell is too old!

The poster said "in his prime."

Jack McDowell has never recorded a save. Unlike Buehrle.
:tealpolice:


Using Homefish's reasoning, I would start Jack and close with Mark.

hose
08-17-2007, 05:31 PM
I got Burles starting and then relieving himself.

soxfanreggie
08-17-2007, 06:47 PM
Hopefully he relieves himself in private...wouldn't want our pitcher arrested for public indecency. :tongue:

ode to veeck
08-17-2007, 07:24 PM
1963's Rookie of the Year, Gary Peters for 8 innings with Goose Gossage in his prime to close (preferably right after a clubhouse fight to warm him up!)

PKalltheway
08-17-2007, 10:05 PM
Buehrle, hands down.

Brian26
08-17-2007, 10:33 PM
Buehrle

areilly
08-17-2007, 11:33 PM
I'll buck the trend and rash of recent MB man-love by taking the 1990-1994 edition of McDowell. That's not a knock against Mark by any means, but I think there are two things people are overlooking:
- the aforementioned pitch-tipping and Toronto sign-stealing
- MB's 2000 ALDS appearance was only against three batters. Once. And we forget he gave up two hits before recording an out.

Blackjack to start; MB as first line of relief. I like those odds.

Daver
08-17-2007, 11:45 PM
Billy Pierce.

TornLabrum
08-18-2007, 12:52 AM
Billy Pierce.

Dammit Daver! I was just about to post that before I turned the page and saw this!

FoulTerritory
08-18-2007, 10:32 AM
well, it could be argued that blackjack never pitched a postseason game in his prime. Blackjack's prime seemed to end about when August ended in 1993, as he was never a stud pitcher after that point. If I remember correctly, his september 1993 was awful, followed by an awful postseason and a lot of mediocrity in the years to come.

soxinem1
08-18-2007, 10:47 AM
I'll buck the trend and rash of recent MB man-love by taking the 1990-1994 edition of McDowell. That's not a knock against Mark by any means, but I think there are two things people are overlooking:
- the aforementioned pitch-tipping and Toronto sign-stealing
- MB's 2000 ALDS appearance was only against three batters. Once. And we forget he gave up two hits before recording an out.

Blackjack to start; MB as first line of relief. I like those odds.

I watched Jack pitch in person twice during the 1993 playoffs, and excuses of sign stealing (didn't the Sox have the master of sign stealing, Joe Nossek, on the bench then??) and other stuff do not hold water, IMHO. He did not have the mound presence he displayed during the regular season.

Buehrle has the results, and a save on short rest to boot. He was about to pitch the tenth inning in the ALCS before AJ's and Crede's exploits ended the game.

I take into consideration that TOR was a better offensive team than anyone the White Sox faced in the 2005 post season, but Buehrle would have put a damper on the Jays running game, whereas Jack was easier to run on (except for runners in third!).

Actual results and intangibles included, I say Buehrle by a landslide.

whitesoxlass
08-18-2007, 11:29 AM
Buehrle


"Put a star on it Ed Farmer":cool: