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Domeshot17
08-15-2007, 02:23 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2975386

BRIDGEPORT, Conn. -- Former major league All-Star Jose Offerman was arrested Tuesday night after charging the mound and hitting the pitcher and catcher with his bat during an independent minor league game.

Conditions of the P and C aren't known, but he cracked the C in the head.

Scottiehaswheels
08-15-2007, 06:39 AM
Wasn't Tommy John an announcer for our AAA affiliate last year or a couple years ago or something? He was competing with Singleton for the job if I remember correctly right?

soxfanatlanta
08-15-2007, 07:51 AM
Roid Rage?

JoeyCora28
08-15-2007, 10:11 AM
Good to see Mike Porzio is still employed.

SBSoxFan
08-15-2007, 12:35 PM
Offerman, Beech and John were all ejected.

So, the pitcher gets attacked by a guy wielding a bat, and the pitcher and his manager get ejected from the game. Who do these guys think they are, MLB?

Mercy!
08-15-2007, 01:57 PM
Some photos here:
http://wbztv.com/slideshows/local_slideshow_227091145/view?slide=0

Video of perp walk and audio of interview with Bridgeport, CT police official:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2975386

kjhanson
08-15-2007, 04:12 PM
You gotta give it to the catcher on that one. On Offerman's backswing, as he was loading up to kill the pitcher, he hit the catcher in the head and gave him a concussion. None-the-less, by the looks of the pictures, the catcher was still the one to eventually take Offerman down.

Frontman
08-15-2007, 05:33 PM
Not a huge fan of the title, Domeshot; (as we're talking isolated incidents of workplace rage, and now Minor League baseball has had major two incidents that has made the media in 3 seasons. Granted, a baseball player has yet to kill someone, but Offerman could of come pretty damn close, if you ask me.)

Postal workers, like any other career, has its share of risks as well as black eyes, and it isn't something Postal Carriers approve of. So, in following up with my responsibility as a United States Rural Carrier, a bit of information is included at the end of this post. (And Dome, I have zero problem with you personally, its just something that we as mail carriers try to discourage, as it isn't something that we want to remain a part of American slang. No harm, no foul.)

I think this guy (Offerman) needs to spend some quality time in a jail cell. If the pitch came close to hitting him in the head, I would excuse a lapse in judgement; but he got hit in the freakin' leg. (I'm not condoning ever charging the mound with a bat, mind you, I just am saying I can see where a player would forget himself and go coo-coo for Coca-Puffs and go a chargin'.) But he gave the catcher a concussion on the backswing. Had he connected with someone in the head at full swing? He could and probably would of killed a player.

There is zero place in our society for this level of violence in ANY workplace.

(Researchers have found that the homicide rates per 100,000 workers at postal facilities were lower than at other workplaces. In major industries, the highest rate of 2.1 homicides per 100,000 workers was in retail. The next highest rate of 1.66 was in public administration, which includes police officers. The homicide rate for postal workers was 0.26 per 100,000. The most dangerous occupation: taxi driving, with a homicide rate of 31.54 per 100,000 workers..)- Per Wikipedia.

You can also learn more at the USPS website:

http://www.usps.com/communications/news/press/2006/pr06_0131commission.htm

Thanks for reading, and GO GO WHITE SOX!!!

Sox
08-15-2007, 05:35 PM
Holy Cow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Offerman should have been arrested. Jeeze Louise. That's a new one on me. What in the wide, wide, world of sports would cause a former major leaguer to act that way. Unless he went off of his meds.:kukoo:

Domeshot17
08-15-2007, 05:40 PM
Not a huge fan of the title, Domeshot; (as we're talking isolated incidents of workplace rage, and now Minor League baseball has had major two incidents that has made the media in 3 seasons. Granted, a baseball player has yet to kill someone, but Offerman could of come pretty damn close, if you ask me.)

Postal workers, like any other career, has its share of risks as well as black eyes, and it isn't something Postal Carriers approve of. So, in following up with my responsibility as a United States Rural Carrier, a bit of information is included at the end of this post. (And Dome, I have zero problem with you personally, its just something that we as mail carriers try to discourage, as it isn't something that we want to remain a part of American slang. No harm, no foul.)

I think this guy (Offerman) needs to spend some quality time in a jail cell. If the pitch came close to hitting him in the head, I would excuse a lapse in judgement; but he got hit in the freakin' leg. (I'm not condoning ever charging the mound with a bat, mind you, I just am saying I can see where a player would forget himself and go coo-coo for Coca-Puffs and go a chargin'.) But he gave the catcher a concussion on the backswing. Had he connected with someone in the head at full swing? He could and probably would of killed a player.

There is zero place in our society for this level of violence in ANY workplace.

(Researchers have found that the homicide rates per 100,000 workers at postal facilities were lower than at other workplaces. In major industries, the highest rate of 2.1 homicides per 100,000 workers was in retail. The next highest rate of 1.66 was in public administration, which includes police officers. The homicide rate for postal workers was 0.26 per 100,000. The most dangerous occupation: taxi driving, with a homicide rate of 31.54 per 100,000 workers..)- Per Wikipedia.

You can also learn more at the USPS website:

http://www.usps.com/communications/news/press/2006/pr06_0131commission.htm

Thanks for reading, and GO GO WHITE SOX!!!

I apologize for the title. I guess growing up Ive always used the phrase and never really thought of the meaning behind it (which is odd in a way). My Uncle has been a mail carrier for 30 years for my town, so I have a lot of respect for the position. I guess because it never offended him, I never associated it.


MODS: If you could please change title around however you want, I did not mean any offense by the use of the word. I apologize for the title doing the opposite and offending someone, especially a solid poster here who's opinions I respect a lot.

Frontman
08-15-2007, 05:44 PM
I apologize for the title. I guess growing up Ive always used the phrase and never really thought of the meaning behind it (which is odd in a way). My Uncle has been a mail carrier for 30 years for my town, so I have a lot of respect for the position. I guess because it never offended him, I never associated it.


MODS: If you could please change title around however you want, I did not mean any offense by the use of the word. I apologize for the title doing the opposite and offending someone, especially a solid poster here who's opinions I respect a lot.


Who, me? (looks around, surely Dome was talking about another poster.)

:redface:

I appreciate the comment, Dome. After some comments I got at another forum non-Sox or sports related the other day, that made my week.

But you know what? MODS, if you don't mind; you could leave the title alone, as with my post included, it would go to doing a bit of the education we as postal carriers try to get out there.

Mercy!
08-15-2007, 07:25 PM
One of my favorite quotes is from the Ducks owner, Frank Boulton, who said, "We're all saddened by this because Jose has had a 15-year major league career and is a true gentleman."

Yikes! If a true gentleman could lose it like that in such a public situation, what must he be capable of in private?

Frontman
08-15-2007, 10:05 PM
One of my favorite quotes is from the Ducks owner, Frank Boulton, who said, "We're all saddened by this because Jose has had a 15-year major league career and is a true gentleman."

Yikes! If a true gentleman could lose it like that in such a public situation, what must he be capable of in private?

A true gentleman?

If that's how a gentleman conducts himself, I would be insulted to be ever called one.

Wsoxmike59
08-16-2007, 06:47 AM
I was immediately reminded of this, the famous Juan Marichal - John Roseboro incident:

http://sportsmed.starwave.com/i/magazine/new/marichal_roseboro_fight.jpg

The Marichal Incident

Roseboro will always be remembered as the player that Dominican (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominican_Republic) pitcher (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitcher) Juan Marichal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Marichal) clubbed over the head with a bat during a game between the Dodgers and San Francisco Giants (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Giants) at Candlestick Park (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candlestick_Park) on August 22 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_22), 1965 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1965_in_baseball).

Earlier in the game, Marichal had knocked down Dodgers Maury Wills (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maury_Wills) and Ron Fairly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Fairly) with brushback pitches (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brushback_pitch). When Marichal came up to bat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At_bat) against Sandy Koufax (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Koufax) in the third inning, Koufax wouldn't retaliate, but his catcher, Roseboro, apparently wanted to.

Roseboro returned Koufax's pitches dangerously close to Marichal's face. Then, the future Hall-of-Famer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball_Hall_of_Fame) hit Roseboro over the head with his bat twice, opening a two-inch gash that sent blood flowing down the catcher's face that would require 14 stitches.

The Giants and the Dodgers, who nurture a heated rivalry with each other dating back to their days together in the New York (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City) market, and who were both strong contenders for the 1965 National League (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_League) pennant, cleared their respective benches and began a 14-minute brawl on the field before Koufax, Giants captain Willie Mays (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Mays), and other peacemakers restored order.


After the incident, NL president Warren Giles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Giles) suspended Marichal for eight games, fined him with $ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_dollar)1,750, and also forbade him from traveling to Dodger Stadium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodger_Stadium) for the final, crucial two-game series of the season. The Giants won both of them in the middle of a 14-game streak, but the Dodgers got even hotter later to win the pennant, and eventually defeated the Minnesota Twins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Twins) in seven games in the World Series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1965_World_Series).


Marichal contended Roseboro returned a pitch close to his nose. Roseboro said he did nothing to provoke Marichal reaction and later sued him for $110,000 in damages. Marichal didn't face the Dodgers again until May 3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_3), 1966 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1966_in_baseball). He got the victory and Roseboro hit 1 for 4. After years of bitterness, they became close friends in the 1980s, getting together occasionally at Old-Timers games, golf tournaments and charity events.

MDF3530
08-16-2007, 05:40 PM
Good to see Mike Porzio is still employed.
http://www.prosportspictures.com/images/mlb/chicago-white-sox/2005/05-carl-everett-studio-sm.jpg
"Don't forget about me!"

esbrechtel
08-17-2007, 12:23 PM
http://www.prosportspictures.com/images/mlb/chicago-white-sox/2005/05-carl-everett-studio-sm.jpg
"Don't forget about me!"
I heard he was one of the first to restrain Offerman....

MDF3530
08-17-2007, 05:48 PM
I heard he was one of the first to restrain Offerman....He disarmed him. That was shocking to me.

If I were still a betting man, I would not have put money on him disarming the guy with the bat in a melee. I would've put money on him being the guy with the bat.

ndgt10
08-18-2007, 08:16 AM
A thought to the catcher: Keep your mask on dumbass.

soxinem1
08-18-2007, 10:18 PM
Seems like yesterday BOS gave him a boatload of $$$$ to be a 1B/DH.

He was a prick in MLB too. Once a tool, always a tool.

MDF3530
08-19-2007, 04:02 PM
Seems like yesterday BOS gave him a boatload of $$$$ to be a 1B/DH.One of former GM Dan Duquette's excellent investments.