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Fenway
08-06-2007, 08:32 AM
With some 50 games ago suddenly nothing seems certain in the AL playoff race except proably Boston. Boston's schedule is just too easy in September for them to blow it. ( 12 with the Fighting Seaweed in their last 51 and NYY has but 6 plus Boston only has 10 on the road in September.

3 weeks ago the Yankees were as far out of the Wild Card as they were the division.....but now they are ONE HALF game out.

The Tigers and Indians have imploded and suddenly the Twins are alive. Sadly I can't see the White Sox getting back in this as they need to catch THREE teams and to have any chance they would have to go something like 38-13. But I think .500 is possible.

So you have Seattle, Cleveland, Detroit, Minnesota and the Yankees fighting it out. NYY plays them all so they are in control of their destiny.

One thing seems certain, the 3 doormats Texas, Kansas City and Tampa Bay will play a major role in this.

lostfan
08-06-2007, 08:36 AM
Yanks are in a cupcake part of their schedule, before I'm ready to say they'll make the playoffs I want to see if they'll stay this hot against actual contenders. I mean hell, we saw how the Sox lit Clemens the hell up. Then again they always do.

Fenway
08-06-2007, 08:41 AM
Yanks are in a cupcake part of their schedule, before I'm ready to say they'll make the playoffs I want to see if they'll stay this hot against actual contenders. I mean hell, we saw how the Sox lit Clemens the hell up. Then again they always do.

True...but they play Detroit, Cleveland and Seattle so they don't need help anymore.

I just can't believe the Twins are suddenly back in this as well :?:

MarySwiss
08-06-2007, 08:48 AM
True...but they play Detroit, Cleveland and Seattle so they don't need help anymore.

I just can't believe the Twins are suddenly back in this as well :?:

I can. It never fails. They make me sick.

Fenway
08-06-2007, 08:53 AM
I can. It never fails. They make me sick.

The interleague record is really coming back to hurt the White Sox right now....:(:

I just don't want NYY in there at the end.......the last thing I ( or the rest of the country) needs is another Boston-NYY ALCS

PatK
08-06-2007, 09:06 AM
Interleague play absolutley killed the Sox's chances this year.

Not because of it, but I HATE interleague play with a passion. Time to give it a rest.

California Sox
08-06-2007, 09:15 AM
It's coincidental that the Sox happened to be playing NL squads when Pods, Thome, Crede, Dye were hurt, their bullpen imploded, and the entire lineup was lifeless. During that stretch they would have struggle in interleague matchup with the PONY League.

Fenway
08-06-2007, 09:26 AM
The NL is a total crapshoot now. Funny thing is the NL Central is now at the same level as the east and west leaders.

The Mets can't seem to put Atlanta or Philly away, the Brewers don't want the Central and the west is wide open.

viagracat
08-06-2007, 09:29 AM
The AL Central was supposed to be a killer division this year. Instead, it's August and the division collectively is barely over .500.

Damn, if only the Sox hadn't gotten into that long funk. :(:

Foulke You
08-06-2007, 09:30 AM
It's coincidental that the Sox happened to be playing NL squads when Pods, Thome, Crede, Dye were hurt, their bullpen imploded, and the entire lineup was lifeless. During that stretch they would have struggle in interleague matchup with the PONY League.
You hit the nail on the head. If we were to play the interleague part of the schedule now, we'd probably go 14W-4L rather than 4W-14L like we did. We were a terrible ballclub in June. The Chattanooga Lookouts and the Winstem Salem Warthogs could have taken out the White Sox in June.

What hurts is that if we would have just had a mediocre June instead of a horrible season ending June, we'd be within sniffing distance of the division lead right now. Woulda coulda shoulda...

Foulke You
08-06-2007, 09:31 AM
Yanks are in a cupcake part of their schedule, before I'm ready to say they'll make the playoffs I want to see if they'll stay this hot against actual contenders. I mean hell, we saw how the Sox lit Clemens the hell up. Then again they always do.
In addition to being in the cupcake part of their schedule, the Yankee bats are red hot right now. They are slugging their way through this winning stretch, not pitching their way through it. Those bats are going to cool off again at some point and when it does, the '07 Yankees don't have enough pitching to hold off the other AL wild card contenders.

soxinem1
08-06-2007, 02:42 PM
You hit the nail on the head. If we were to play the interleague part of the schedule now, we'd probably go 14W-4L rather than 4W-14L like we did. We were a terrible ballclub in June. The Chattanooga Lookouts and the Winstem Salem Warthogs could have taken out the White Sox in June.

What hurts is that if we would have just had a mediocre June instead of a horrible season ending June, we'd be within sniffing distance of the division lead right now. Woulda coulda shoulda...

Ah, the big 'IF' has struck again!!!:tongue:

chisoxmike
08-06-2007, 02:47 PM
I just can't believe the Twins are suddenly back in this as well :?:

I can. I hate the ****ing Twins. :angry:

palehozenychicty
08-06-2007, 02:56 PM
I can. I hate the ****ing Twins. :angry:

Me too!! :angry:

They'll win the division at 5 pm on the last day of the season. You watch.

TwinKess
08-06-2007, 03:01 PM
We haven't had the injuries you've had but we're still barely better than a .500 ballclub. We are two or three bats away from having a formidible lineup, and our starters still haven't grown more than peach fuzz. I'd love to see the Twins in the playoffs (once there its anybodies to win - see: '06 Cards or the '87 Twins), but I don't give us more than a 1 in 10 shot to make it.

chisoxmike
08-06-2007, 03:10 PM
We haven't had the injuries you've had but we're still barely better than a .500 ballclub. We are two or three bats away from having a formidible lineup, and our starters still haven't grown more than peach fuzz. I'd love to see the Twins in the playoffs (once there its anybodies to win - see: '06 Cards or the '87 Twins), but I don't give us more than a 1 in 10 shot to make it.


HA! You guys have made the playoffs with hacks like Nick Punto, Jayson Tyner, Lew Ford, and others. I'm shocked when the Twins don't make the playoffs.

It was just like the Twins to win the division on the final day of the season last year when not spending one freaking day in 1st place the entire season.

Hopefully this season ends the Twins reign of terror, but I would never count them out of anything. Sox fans are blowing their loads over the fact that we're 10 games out with two months to go (:rolleyes:) but have said nothing to the fact that the Twins have also made up 5 games and are now 4.5 out of first. I'll hand it to the Twins, they got heart...they're going to make it interesting.

WSox4life
08-06-2007, 03:19 PM
I would probably love the Twins if they were in another division or league

chisoxmike
08-06-2007, 03:20 PM
I would probably love the Twins if they were in another division or league

Or just out of baseball in general.

Wasn't there some rumor or story going around pre-2002 that MLB was going to take them out of the league along with the Expos? Or am I imagining things? :dunno:

Fenway
08-06-2007, 03:28 PM
Or just out of baseball in general.

Wasn't there some rumor or story going around pre-2002 that MLB was going to take them out of the league along with the Expos? Or am I imagining things? :dunno:

It was fact

What stopped it more than anything was Loria in Montreal was going to sue and the players association was against it.

To appease Loria he was given the Marlins when John Henry decided to own Boston instead

Fenway
08-06-2007, 03:35 PM
and the Yankees this afternoon are now tied for the Wild Card lead :whiner:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?date=20070806&type=wild&br=5&year=2007&order=false&st=2

palehozenychicty
08-06-2007, 03:55 PM
and the Yankees this afternoon are now tied for the Wild Card lead :whiner:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?date=20070806&type=wild&br=5&year=2007&order=false&st=2


Meh. When they stop hitting against the better teams, they'll fall behind again. They took advantage of their cakewalk in July, so let's see what happens during this month against CLE, DET, SEA, etc.

thomas35forever
08-06-2007, 04:03 PM
Me too!! :angry:

They'll win the division at 5 pm on the last day of the season. You watch.
Very, very possible. But my dad's not giving up on the Sox just yet. It would be a wonderous miracle of miracles if we clinched a spot in the postseason.

balke
08-07-2007, 09:42 AM
Red Sox
Angels
Tigers
Yankees

That's the AL playoffs. I think Cleveland just isn't as good as the Yankees. It'll be a good race though.

soxfan13
08-07-2007, 10:16 AM
Meh. When they stop hitting against the better teams, they'll fall behind again. They took advantage of their cakewalk in July, so let's see what happens during this month against CLE, DET, SEA, etc.

Just wondering, why any team other then the White Sox are criticized for doing what they are suppose to do , in beating bad teams?:dunno:

Fenway
08-07-2007, 10:44 AM
Meh. When they stop hitting against the better teams, they'll fall behind again. They took advantage of their cakewalk in July, so let's see what happens during this month against CLE, DET, SEA, etc.

The Boston Globe agrees







Since the break, the Yankees have faced one team with a better than .500 record. Before the month is out though, they face the four best teams in the game in Detroit, Los Angeles, Cleveland, and Boston. Call it the “welcome to reality” stretch.

Meanwhile, the Red Sox, after this week’s series in Anaheim, have to deal with the Angels four more times next weekend at Fenway. Beyond that, before they meet the Yankees at the end of August, they get to play around with the Orioles three times, the Devil Rays six times, and the White Sox four times. Call it the “welcome to retribution” stretch.

Some names the Yankees have beaten the past few days: Gil Meche, Scott Downs, John Danks, and Odalis Perez.

Some names the Yankees will face in upcoming days: Roy Halladay, Fausto Carmona, and Paul Byrd.

http://www.boston.com/sports/nesn/wilbur/sports_blog/blog/2007/08/07/too_little_too_late/index.html

TDog
08-07-2007, 11:15 AM
It was fact

What stopped it more than anything was Loria in Montreal was going to sue and the players association was against it.

To appease Loria he was given the Marlins when John Henry decided to own Boston instead

At the time, the Twins were a doormat team in the division. They didn't start winning until after the serious contraction talk.

I was at a Twins game in Old Comiskey in the mid 1970s talking to a friend about the evils of expansion, which was coming up again. I said what they need to do is contract a couple of teams, the Twins for example. It was insensitive of me because sitting in front of me were a man and a boy wearing Twins caps. The man didn't turn around, but with his arm around the boy's seat, he casually gave me an obscene gesture.

Every team has fans. It would devastate me if the Sox left Chicago, and I haven't lived in the Chicago area for close to 30 years. As much as I hate the Twins, I can't imagine what it would be like for the kids who would suffer the Twins' disenfranchisement.

Such pain should only be inflicted on Cubs fans.

jenn2080
08-07-2007, 12:22 PM
I can. I hate the ****ing Twins. :angry:


Me too. More than any other team in our division or the AL for that fact.

SBSoxFan
08-07-2007, 12:44 PM
The Boston Globe agrees







http://www.boston.com/sports/nesn/wilbur/sports_blog/blog/2007/08/07/too_little_too_late/index.html

Fenway,

Who would you rather NOT be playing right now, the Orioles, the Devil Rays, or the White Sox?

Fenway
08-07-2007, 01:29 PM
Fenway,

Who would you rather NOT be playing right now, the Orioles, the Devil Rays, or the White Sox?

The White Sox :D:

SBSoxFan
08-07-2007, 01:37 PM
The White Sox :D:

:thumbsup:

oeo
08-07-2007, 01:39 PM
Meh. When they stop hitting against the better teams, they'll fall behind again. They took advantage of their cakewalk in July, so let's see what happens during this month against CLE, DET, SEA, etc.

I don't know about that. Their offense is kicking serious ass right now. I don't think it would matter if they were against Johan, they would light him up. They've done it before with a less-than-stellar starting rotation, I see no reason they won't do it again.

And all those teams you listed are not better than the Yankees...and 2 of the 3 are really struggling; they're going to get their asses handed to them.

TwinKess
08-08-2007, 09:03 AM
But their offense is kicking ass against a bunch of no-names. Lets see what happens when they face real teams.

soxfan13
08-08-2007, 10:12 AM
But their offense is kicking ass against a bunch of no-names. Lets see what happens when they face real teams.

Again they are doing what they are suppose to be doing. Beating up on lesser teams and hope to play .500 or slightly better ball against the better teams.