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MCHSoxFan
08-05-2007, 02:57 PM
SWEEP...YEEEEESSSS!!!!

OUTSTANDING game. Gavin, perfect. Defense, superb. Offense, clutch. Well, except for all those DP's with with runners in scoring position.

Once again...YEEEEESSS!!!

Now Let's Get Those Indians!!! :D:

CubsfansareDRUNK
08-05-2007, 02:58 PM
Gavin! :bandance:

Frater Perdurabo
08-05-2007, 02:58 PM
Nice outing by Floyd. Put a few more of these together, and he might just earn a spot in next year's rotation.

BeefyD
08-05-2007, 02:59 PM
YESSS!!!!! Just the shot in the arm that we need!!! Now, without Contreras, we may still have a slim shot at something!!!!

ilsox7
08-05-2007, 02:59 PM
Enjoy the day off, boys. Come out ready to play against Cleveland this week and win another series!

oeo
08-05-2007, 02:59 PM
Gavin... :o:

I guess Jose isn't getting his job back anytime soon. :bandance:

palehozenychicty
08-05-2007, 03:00 PM
YESSS!!!!! Just the shot in the arm that we need!!! Now, without Contreras, we may still have a slim shot at a good draft pick.

A slight adjustment. Three cheers for Floyd, and hopefully he can keep it up.

Frater Perdurabo
08-05-2007, 03:00 PM
YESSS!!!!! Just the shot in the arm that we need!!! Now, without Contreras, we may still have a slim shot at something!!!!

And the arm we need out of the fifth starter spot, too! At least today, anyway.

The Dude
08-05-2007, 03:00 PM
Nice start by Floyd and the pen did well.

Amazing stat of the day, Bobby has retired the last 32 batters he has faced!:o::o::o::gulp::gulp::gulp:

Brian26
08-05-2007, 03:01 PM
If the Twins hold on, we'll be 10.0 out.

It's gonna happen.

The Immigrant
08-05-2007, 03:01 PM
Impressive. I don't care how badly the Tigers are struggling, that was an impressive sweep.

MCHSoxFan
08-05-2007, 03:01 PM
Oh, I forgot yesterday. I have got to update my signature... :D:

oeo
08-05-2007, 03:03 PM
This road trip looked like it was going to be awful after those first two games. We ended up going 4-2 in the end, though. :D:

Fenway
08-05-2007, 03:03 PM
Cleveland and Detroit have opened the door wide open for the Yankees ......:(:

pagansoxfan
08-05-2007, 03:03 PM
inb honor of gavin, i'm gonna drink a beer from three floyds!!!:D:

Brian26
08-05-2007, 03:04 PM
Cleveland and Detroit have opened the door wide open for the Yankees ......:(:

And for the White Sox! :bandance:

The Racehorse
08-05-2007, 03:04 PM
The more double plays the Sox hit into, the more they win... must be a Detroit thing. :D:

TheOldRoman
08-05-2007, 03:05 PM
Gavin... :o:

I guess Jose isn't getting his job back anytime soon. :bandance:I hope Gavin is lights out the rest of the year, but the Sox need to get Jose back into the rotation this year. If he sits out the rest of the year, his value actually goes down.:o: They need him to come back and show that he can at least be mediocre the rest of the year. That way they will be able to deal him in the offseason.

Great game by Floyd, Richar looked very good again, and Bobby was solid after pitching for the 4th time in 5 days. There were a few baserunning errors, and the offense should have done a lot more, but you can't complain about a win like this.

soxwon
08-05-2007, 03:05 PM
I really am begining to think- we are gonna win this!!!
That would be a miracle, if clev loses we are 10 out.
gained 6-1/2 games in 14 days- thats amazing.

eastchicagosoxfan
08-05-2007, 03:06 PM
Is this the first sweep of the season? Way to go!!! Just take it one game at a time.

jabrch
08-05-2007, 03:07 PM
I really am begining to think- we are gonna win this!!!
That would be a miracle, if clev loses we are 10 out.
gained 6-1/2 games in 14 days- thats amazing.

At this rate, we will win the division by 6 or 7 games!

California Sox
08-05-2007, 03:08 PM
Cleveland and Detroit have opened the door wide open for the Yankees ......:(:

FOX's TV deal may break even after all.

C'mon, admit it. You want a Red Sox/Yankees ALCS. It's the rest of us who are being punished by the Baseball Deity.

oeo
08-05-2007, 03:08 PM
I hope Gavin is lights out the rest of the year, but the Sox need to get Jose back into the rotation this year. If he sits out the rest of the year, his value actually goes down.:o: They need him to come back and show that he can at least be mediocre the rest of the year. That way they will be able to deal him in the offseason.

Bill Melton mentioned before the game, that they might do a 6-man rotation. I'm assuming that means Contreras and Floyd will pitch on and off.

I don't think Contreras will get a start a couple more times through the rotation, though. He needs the break...whether he needs to clear his mind, whatever. And if Floyd is giving us the better chance to win, I really don't see Ozzie throwing him out there every 5th day anymore.

knocko94
08-05-2007, 03:09 PM
It's good to see Bukvich throw his fastball with a little cut on it. It's an adjustment he needs to make to stick in the bigs. He throws pretty hard, so a little wrinkle will do him well.

Also, it was funny to see Hawk make the one handed catch on the foul ball then fire it down into the crowd.

GlassSox
08-05-2007, 03:09 PM
Outstanding! Gavin looked great. :D:

Law11
08-05-2007, 03:09 PM
So this is what a mini winning steak feels like..
Nice Job Gavin.

TDog
08-05-2007, 03:10 PM
Impressive. I don't care how badly the Tigers are struggling, that was an impressive sweep.

If the White Sox and Twins beating the Tigers and Indians is partly about the Tigers and Indians struggling, that could mean as much to the White Sox and Twins chances in the divisional race as if they were far behind and red hot.

When Jenks had two outs in the ninth, I thought of a previous Sunday this season when Aardsma seemed untouchable. I believe that was the only Sox loss in Detroit this year.

UserNameBlank
08-05-2007, 03:10 PM
Gavin owned today. One start at a time, baby.

WSox597
08-05-2007, 03:14 PM
Well done, Sox! Nice to sweep the Tiggers in Detroit. Again.

Very good game by Gavin Floyd, good to see. MacDougal is still a little spooky, but Mags is having a career year.

Richar continues to impress. All in all, a good game, and fun to watch.

Tragg
08-05-2007, 03:16 PM
Great sweep. I'm happy for floyd and for the Sox with Floyd.

Just when Fields is settling in, move him out. No matter what, if he's playing, gotta have low obp/low power Erstad in that 2 hole. Ozzie loves his hackers. Hopefully, Kenny will deprive him next year.

As for as Contreras, yes, he's got to show something for someone to bite. But the best chance, imo, is in-season; and that will also require the Sox to pick up a lot of salary no matter when he's traded. Do you think the Sox are willing to do that?
But Floyd is promising and I hate to see him deprived of PT. I guess the pen's okay for him.

goon
08-05-2007, 03:17 PM
Bobby Jenks is ridiculous.

whitesoxfan1986
08-05-2007, 03:19 PM
Wow, what a great game from Gavin. After his first 3 outings, I thought I was an idiot for thinking that a change of scenery would do wonders for him. I know that this is only 1 start, but I hope my first instinct about him is more correct than my second guess.

jabrch
08-05-2007, 03:21 PM
Bobby Jenks is ridiculous.

Accardo, Weathers and Gregg

KyWhiSoxFan
08-05-2007, 03:23 PM
Nice game all around. It was reminiscent of 2005 when the pitching was good, bullpen did its job, the fielding crisp, and scored enough runs to win.

Floyd took a nice step forward today. It is only one step, however, and he needs to string together a whole bunch of those this year before he can even begin thinking he has some kind of spot on next year's team. Hopefully he is at the stage of his career when he knows he has to put it all together.

The Racehorse
08-05-2007, 03:24 PM
It was interesting to see Contreras warming in the BP during the 8th... I wonder how effective he'll be when he does come in to relieve someone?

sullythered
08-05-2007, 03:24 PM
I'll admit, I didn't think Floyd had it in him. He looked awesome today. And hey, was that a bunch of team speed I saw out there today?

Also, Bobby Jenks is awesome. Where are all the Bobby haters now?

soxwon
08-05-2007, 03:25 PM
All aboard the Believe Train-a !!!!
The Believe train left the station on 7-23
7-23 16-1/2 gb
7-24 14-1/2 gb
7-27 13-1/2 gb
7-28 12-1/2
8-3 12 gb
8-4 11 gb
8-5 possibly 10 gb

You got's to believea.
You gots to have FAITH !!!!
If you believe Da sox believe!!!

Come on out tuesday, and shout with Joy
Give the Boys a standing-O.
We are rollin down da tracks
with Engineer Reverand at the wheel.

If we can get to 7 out by end of next sunday.
WE will do it- Have faith !!!!
Keep on Believing !!!!

ilsox7
08-05-2007, 03:26 PM
Bill Melton mentioned before the game, that they might do a 6-man rotation. I'm assuming that means Contreras and Floyd will pitch on and off.



Everything I've read said it would be a 6 man rotation, not an on/off type thing.

jabrch
08-05-2007, 03:31 PM
Where are all the Bobby haters now?

They are sitting with the Floyd haters today - waiting for a bad outing so they can bragg about being right.

Frater Perdurabo
08-05-2007, 03:32 PM
Only 7 games under .500 now. I think they can go 16-7 over their next 23 games, which puts them at 68-66 going into Cleveland on August 31. Then, 25 of their final 28 games are within the division:

3 @ CLE, 3 @ DET, 3 v MIN, 3 v CLE, 3 v LAA, 4 @ KC, 3 @ MIN, 3 v KC, 3 v DET

It's a two-edged sword, but in essence every division game counts double. If (and it's a big IF) those teams continue struggling, the opportunity is there for the Sox to strike. I'm not saying it will happen - it would take an epic effort - but it COULD happen.

palehozenychicty
08-05-2007, 03:34 PM
Only 7 games under .500 now. I think they can go 16-7 over their next 23 games, which puts them at 68-66 going into Cleveland on August 31. Then, 25 of their final 28 games are within the division:

3 @ CLE, 3 @ DET, 3 v MIN, 3 v CLE, 3 v LAA, 4 @ KC, 3 @ MIN, 3 v KC, 3 v DET

It's a two-edged sword, but in essence every division game counts double. If (and it's a big IF) those teams continue struggling, the opportunity is there for the Sox to strike. I'm not saying it will happen - it would take an epic effort - but it COULD happen.

As bad as the Sox have looked this year, ANYTHING can happen. Houston almost came back and stole the division last year before the Cards held on.

SoxSpeed22
08-05-2007, 03:36 PM
The young guys won this game. Floyd kept them off balance with moving fastballs and his hook. Good Juan and bad Juan showed up in the same inning. The bullpen did pretty well despite the Ordonez homer. Overall, good win and better sweep! :bandance:

Palehose Pete
08-05-2007, 03:38 PM
Woo hoo! That's a White Sox Winner! Woo hoo!

Patrick134
08-05-2007, 03:39 PM
Bobby Jenks is ridiculous.


If Rivera had a 32 batter streak going, Selig would be at every game.

soxwon
08-05-2007, 03:41 PM
Only 7 games under .500 now. I think they can go 16-7 over their next 23 games, which puts them at 68-66 going into Cleveland on August 31. Then, 25 of their final 28 games are within the division:

3 @ CLE, 3 @ DET, 3 v MIN, 3 v CLE, 3 v LAA, 4 @ KC, 3 @ MIN, 3 v KC, 3 v DET

It's a two-edged sword, but in essence every division game counts double. If (and it's a big IF) those teams continue struggling, the opportunity is there for the Sox to strike. I'm not saying it will happen - it would take an epic effort - but it COULD happen.

allright- a believer !!!!

oeo
08-05-2007, 03:44 PM
Just when Fields is settling in, move him out. No matter what, if he's playing, gotta have low obp/low power Erstad in that 2 hole. Ozzie loves his hackers. Hopefully, Kenny will deprive him next year.

Just settling in? He's better suited lower in the order. Ozzie gave JD a day off, and Erstad is better suited for the two hole.

People didn't like when he was moved to the two hole, now they don't like that he's moved out. You just can't win with Sox fans.

soxwon
08-05-2007, 03:46 PM
10 out-Official !!!!!
believe my friends believe!!!

cheezheadsoxfan
08-05-2007, 03:48 PM
Man, it's been a long time since we could get the brooms out.:bandance:

I'm not quite at the "we can make a run" stage, but it sure is nice to see them playing good ball.

Tragg
08-05-2007, 03:48 PM
Just settling in? He's better suited lower in the order. Ozzie gave JD a day off, and Erstad is better suited for the two hole.

People didn't like when he was moved to the two hole, now they don't like that he's moved out. You just can't win with Sox fans.
He was settling in. And Erstad isn't suited for the 2 hole at all. "Handling the bat" is of little use hitting in front of Thome. Erstad's numbers suggest he's best suited for the 8 or 9 hole. Probably Richar should be 2 and, without Dye, Fields should be 5 or so.
The point is that whenever Erstad plays, Ozzie will shuffle everyone around to ensure that he gets the 2 hole.

Tragg
08-05-2007, 03:49 PM
Sorry; thought the first didn't take.

eastchicagosoxfan
08-05-2007, 03:51 PM
Whispering: Maybe....just maybe...if....and....if....just win on Tuesday.

soxwon
08-05-2007, 03:53 PM
Whispering: Maybe....just maybe...if....and....if....just win on Tuesday.

Allright- Another Believer !!!!

TomBradley72
08-05-2007, 03:54 PM
Man, it's been a long time since we could get the brooms out.:bandance:

I'm not quite at the "we can make a run" stage, but it sure is nice to see them playing good ball.

If we can get to .500 within the next 2 weeks....I think we have a shot. As long as we're below .500 I can't get too pumped.

southside rocks
08-05-2007, 03:57 PM
Wow, Gavin Floyd! I was very pleasantly surprised by that performance! :D:

ThomesHomie
08-05-2007, 04:01 PM
I believe, very little part of me does but its getting nice to watch these games.

LITTLE NELL
08-05-2007, 04:02 PM
I predict we will be .500 by Aug19, 2 weeks from today, maybe sooner with a great home stand. If we are at .500 we will be at least contenders for the wild card. Never give up, Go Go Sox!!!

hose
08-05-2007, 04:05 PM
Gavin was lights out!!!!!

Whoa didn't see that coming....woohoo:bandance::bandance::bandance:

spawn
08-05-2007, 04:08 PM
If we can get to .500 within the next 2 weeks....I think we have a shot. As long as we're below .500 I can't get too pumped.
Exactly. I want to believe...I really do. This was a great series...I just don't know if this team can make the kind of run the A's did, or the one the Twins made last year. And we still have 3 teams to leapfrog in this division. The Twins are now only 4 1/2 back after taking 2 of 3 from the Indians. A LOT has to go right for the Sox to get baack into contention.

eastchicagosoxfan
08-05-2007, 04:11 PM
Allright- Another Believer !!!!
I never stopped believing. I really thought the team could have been .500 after July. After the break, the Sox won the first game against the O's, and promptly lost the next three. They were shut out 2-0, and lost in ten, 7-6. After the first victory, the team was seven under. They're still not back there yet. Get to .500 first. Then we can stop whispering about the greatest comeback in MLB history. It will be a dream to some, a nightmare to others!!!!

soxwon
08-05-2007, 04:13 PM
I believe, very little part of me does but its getting nice to watch these games.


see you do believe-even a little bit-makes you a believer.

Noneck
08-05-2007, 04:14 PM
I predict we will be .500 by Aug19, 2 weeks from today, maybe sooner with a great home stand. If we are at .500 we will be at least contenders for the wild card. Never give up, Go Go Sox!!!

You do realize that the Sox would have to go 10-2 to get to .500 by 8/19? So they will NEED a great home stand regardless.

Thome_Fan
08-05-2007, 04:25 PM
Well, I fell asleep around the 6th-7th because I'm sick and got almost no sleep last night. Very pleasantly surprised by Floyd's performance, though. Could someone please inform me as to Bobby's out streak? Did he run it up to 42? Please?

Great sweep! :bandance::bandance::bandance:

LITTLE NELL
08-05-2007, 04:39 PM
You do realize that the Sox would have to go 10-2 to get to .500 by 8/19? So they will NEED a great home stand regardless.
Could happen, 61 White Sox won 19 out of 20, seen it with my own eyes.

Lip Man 1
08-05-2007, 04:49 PM
Hell maybe 82 wins is still possible?

Nice to see Floyd for once pitch fairly well. Maybe.....maybe.

Mike MacDougal says he's over his arm issues but he still seems to be getting beat around.

Looking forward to hearing Stone on the broadcast Tuesday.

Lip

ilsox7
08-05-2007, 04:54 PM
Hell maybe 82 wins is still possible?

Nice to see Floyd for once pitch fairly well. Maybe.....maybe.

Mike MacDougal says he's over his arm issues but he still seems to be getting beat around.

Looking forward to hearing Stone on the broadcast Tuesday.

Lip

Mac made a bad pitch to a get hitter and it got hammered. Other than that, he threw strikes and got guys out. That's just fine by me.

Lip Man 1
08-05-2007, 04:57 PM
Il:

Didn't he give up two runs Friday night?

Lip

ilsox7
08-05-2007, 05:00 PM
Il:

Didn't he give up two runs Friday night?

Lip

Yea. I hadn't seen that part of the game. So I was just commenting about today. Apparently he was bad yesterday, but I thought he made progress today.

Noneck
08-05-2007, 05:03 PM
Could happen, 61 White Sox won 19 out of 20, seen it with my own eyes.

It could happen , but regardless a GREAT homestand is needed. And as Lip reminded me I am looking forward to Stone with Harrelson. Wonder if Harrelson will try to hang out Stone to dry like he does to Jackson during his rest breaks. I hope so, cause Stone won't be as meek as Jackson. Should be fun.

BadBobbyJenks
08-05-2007, 05:09 PM
Accardo, Weathers and Gregg


Hahahahaha just what I was thinking where are all the Jenks haters these days?


Gavin with that curveball working looks filthy, the kid is still just 24 I hope KW is right about him. Loved what I saw from him today. Im loving Richar as well, when is the last time we called someone up who looked this comfortable at the plate right out of the gate?

And how different is this lineup with Owens, Pods and Richar all in it? That speed with the 3 beasts in the middle we could be scary...





And this was the best I have heard Hawk and Dj all year amazing what a decent little run can do for them.

JB98
08-05-2007, 05:17 PM
Very pleasantly surprised by Floyd's outing. That's the first time I've EVER seen him pitch well, his time with the Phillies and spring training included. I really liked the way he handled Ordonez. Not a lot of hard-hit balls against him today.

My only criticism of this weekend's performance is the excessive number of DPs we hit into. We should have beaten the Tigers worse than we did, but beggars can't be choosers. We pitched well, played good 'D', and hit enough to win.

Keep rolling, Jenks! 32 in a row!

One of the best weekends of the year in what has been a very, very long season.

rowand33
08-05-2007, 05:22 PM
9.5 games out of the wild card. Lot of ball left to play.

This homestand is critical. The Mariners are tied with the tigers for the wild card right now and cleveland sits atop the division. If we win both of those series, we actually might have playoff dreams.

Patrick134
08-05-2007, 05:29 PM
Hell maybe 82 wins is still possible?

Nice to see Floyd for once pitch fairly well. Maybe.....maybe.

Mike MacDougal says he's over his arm issues but he still seems to be getting beat around.

Looking forward to hearing Stone on the broadcast Tuesday.

Lip


Give Maggs some credit on that one. It wasn't a bad pitch. Solo homers in that situations beat walks anyday as well.

HawkDJ
08-05-2007, 05:29 PM
This was Mr. Floyd's first quality start in the majors since May 5, 2006. I can't imagine what a relief this outing was for him, not to mention a confidence booster.

MCHSoxFan
08-05-2007, 05:32 PM
All aboard the Believe Train-a !!!!
The Believe train left the station on 7-23
7-23 16-1/2 gb
7-24 14-1/2 gb
7-27 13-1/2 gb
7-28 12-1/2
8-3 12 gb
8-4 11 gb
8-5 possibly 10 gb

You got's to believea.
You gots to have FAITH !!!!
If you believe Da sox believe!!!

Come on out tuesday, and shout with Joy
Give the Boys a standing-O.
We are rollin down da tracks
with Engineer Reverand at the wheel.

If we can get to 7 out by end of next sunday.
WE will do it- Have faith !!!!
Keep on Believing !!!!

HECK YES!!!!! NOW THAT IS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. DOOOOOON'T STOOOOPPP BELIEVIIIIIING!!! I'M GONNA LISTENTO THE SONG RIGHT NOW!!! YEEEEEEESSSS!!!!! INDIANS/TIGERS/TWINS BETTA SUCK AND WE THE SOX BETTA TAKE CONTROL!!! I'M GONNA RUN AROUND THE USCF PARKING LOTS RIGHT NOW BLASTING THAT SONG!!!! YEEEEESSSS!!!!

JB98
08-05-2007, 05:33 PM
Give Maggs some credit on that one. It wasn't a bad pitch. Solo homers in that situations beat walks anyday as well.

Yeah, MacDougal was trying to throw first-ball, fastball strike with nobody on base and a three-run lead. I don't have a problem with that.

Mac has angered me all season with his walks. Walks, not solo HRs, are what fuel big innings. More often than not, the opposition can't hit enough solo HRs to beat you. It's the extra-base hits you give up after walks that beat you almost every time. Mac (and others) have done too much of that this year.

I didn't have a problem with MacDougal's performance today. He got the ball to Jenks with a lead, and that's what counts.

WhiteSox5187
08-05-2007, 05:40 PM
Well, great job by Floyd, I'd like to see more outtings like that from him...and I like what I see from Richar. Any talk of playoffs though is silly.

spawn
08-05-2007, 05:49 PM
Aside from that disaster in New York, who is steamrolling everyone lately, this team is playing some damn good baseball. The bullpen seems to have turned the corner a bit. I hope they can keep up the intensity and continue their winning ways.

NoNeckEra
08-05-2007, 06:00 PM
I hope they can keep up the intensity and continue their winning ways.
.......and maybe finish at .500

soxfanreggie
08-05-2007, 06:06 PM
I am someone who believes in small victories building into bigger victories. This team sweeping the Tigers was a small victory. If we can move back to .500 and finish the season at .500 or above, that would be an even bigger victory. We may not get a 'huge' victory of a division title this year, but it can help us build towards one next year.

MCHSoxFan
08-05-2007, 06:11 PM
10 Games Back In A.l. Central

9.5 Back In A.l. Wild Card

TomParrish79
08-05-2007, 06:21 PM
nice game by Floyd, I was impressed I hope he can build on this and take this confidence into his next start

soxwon
08-05-2007, 07:26 PM
.......and maybe finish at .500

Or maybe win the division!!!

Hitmen77
08-05-2007, 08:11 PM
I really am begining to think- we are gonna win this!!!
That would be a miracle, if clev loses we are 10 out.
gained 6-1/2 games in 14 days- thats amazing.

If we can repeat that feat and gain another 6.5 games in the next 14 days - then I'll get excited.

Nonetheless, I'm very pleased with how they've been playing of late. Even if the playoffs - short of a miracle - are out of reach, the Sox can make huge strides towards competing again in '08 if they play well from here on out and players like Fields, Richar, Floyd, and Wasserman show us that they can succeed in the majors.

soxinem1
08-05-2007, 08:24 PM
Impressive. I don't care how badly the Tigers are struggling, that was an impressive sweep.

I heard a few rumbles about DET injuries, Sheffield not playing. Blah, blah, blah. No one in the AL has had the key injuries like us, and we are not blaming anyone but the team's performance.

One thing I do know is that Floyd did something today I never saw him do.

He stayed composed when early in the game a lot of good curves were called balls.

Most importantly, he had confidence in his fastball and put it where he wanted it. Then when the DET looked for it, in came the deuce. Very key. He used his curve to set up his fastball, when previously, and in ST, he did this in reverse.

The gun had him from 87-93 MPH in the fastball, so if you have it, you should use it.

Another couple things of note. Hawk and DJ aside, I agree with one thing they said. Jerry OWens is starting to look like a legit MLB player. He's having good AB's against good pitching. His routs in CF look better, and his baserunning is really making an impact.

The only thing I don't like about him is a resemblence of Royce Clayton....

Now they key will be how Floyd does from here, and how he compensates when he does not have the location and/or stuff he had today.

Plus, he has now tied Freddy Garcia's total for wins for 2007!!!

Foulke You
08-05-2007, 08:39 PM
If we can repeat that feat and gain another 6.5 games in the next 14 days - then I'll get excited.

Nonetheless, I'm very pleased with how they've been playing of late. Even if the playoffs - short of a miracle - are out of reach, the Sox can make huge strides towards competing again in '08 if they play well from here on out and players like Fields, Richar, Floyd, and Wasserman show us that they can succeed in the majors.
I pretty much agree with that synopsis. Sweeping Detroit is nice but I'm not going to get excited until we can get within sniffing distance of the division leaders i.e. 5 games back or less.

I definitely like what I see from some of the young players too. I'm sold on the offensive ability of Fields, but I would like to see his glove improve. Owens has flashes of being a force at the top of the order but he still grounds out way too much for my liking. Haven't seen enough of Richar yet but he doesn't seem overmatched at the plate when he is on offense.

A 4 game win streak though. How about that! Let's keep it rolling.

Railsplitter
08-05-2007, 08:52 PM
:sweep:

Four in a row, and I finally get to do this:
:bandance::bandance:
:bandance::bandance:

DickAllen72
08-05-2007, 08:52 PM
Or maybe win the division!!!
It's going to happen.

thomas35forever
08-05-2007, 09:23 PM
It's going to happen.
How sweet that would be.:D:

Jurr
08-05-2007, 09:29 PM
How sweet that would be.:D:
What would really be something is if the Sox can come out firing and sweep Cleveland. Then I'm going to start to rub my eyes, scratch my head, and get some weird thoughts rolling through my head.

Could you imagine if this team comes out of this next week down 7 games? What the hell? People would begin to riot.

I for one am just enjoying the fact that the Sox aren't lying down from any part of the organization. Kenny didn't white flag this team. He signed Buehrle to an extension and kept Dye. The hitters have battled through their slumps and are now performing. The bullpen is getting better. It's all starting to work, and I'm so glad that our boys didn't hang their heads in the fashion of the Royals or Pirates. They knew they were better than the crap they spewed on the field for a handful of months. Kudos to all of 'em. :supernana:

LongLiveFisk
08-05-2007, 09:37 PM
I say any sweep is nothing but a positive, regardless of how the opposition may be struggling. I doubt when the Sox were playing so poorly and were swept that the opposition was saying, "well it was only the White Sox." Hell no, they were licking their chops that they swept the Sox--you better believe it. Nothing is ever a "gimme" in baseball (see the 2003 Tigers vs the White Sox that season...blech!!)

HotelWhiteSox
08-05-2007, 10:37 PM
Wow, completely different Gavin Floyd. One of those days I guess, Buckvich striking guys out! I called the Maggs HR though, still not sure about Mac.


Meanwhile Richar is really impressing me

stevemcstud
08-05-2007, 10:46 PM
I've been a reader of this board for over a year and have never felt compelled to register and actually post, but today i do. if, and that is a big IF we sweep the indians we are right in back in this in a big way.

LongLiveFisk
08-05-2007, 10:54 PM
I've been a reader of this board for over a year and have never felt compelled to register and actually post, but today i do. if, and that is a big IF we sweep the indians we are right in back in this in a big way.

Welcome aboard! :gulp:

GlassSox
08-05-2007, 11:11 PM
I've been a reader of this board for over a year and have never felt compelled to register and actually post, but today i do. if, and that is a big IF we sweep the indians we are right in back in this in a big way.

Glad to hear from you, welcome aboard. :thumbsup:

voodoochile
08-06-2007, 07:36 AM
Didn't get to watch any games this weekend, friend in from Chicago (maybe I should stop watching), but man that was impressive.

Sweeping Detroit in Detroit... fan****ingtastic...:supernana:

Tragg
08-06-2007, 09:33 AM
We should have 2 sweeps in Detroit this year. I'm glad we closed the deal against them this time.

Real happy about Floyd....plenty of really good pitchers (and hitters) have taken a couple of years to figure out the major leagues.

MCHSoxFan
08-06-2007, 09:35 AM
I've been a reader of this board for over a year and have never felt compelled to register and actually post, but today i do. if, and that is a big IF we sweep the indians we are right in back in this in a big way.

Hello. Welcome!!! I would love for a sweep of the Indians. In my opinion, the Sox will take 2 of 3. They will lose the middle/second game. AND NO, I DO NOT WANT TO BE ON THIS!!! :D:

soxinem1
08-06-2007, 10:32 AM
While I appreciate the confidence, I think finishing at or over .500 will be a more realistic goal. They are only .500 after the break, and would need to go on a run like CLE did in 2005 to even come close. And even they finished six behind when all was said and done.

Not enough time, and too many grains have slipped through the hourglass.

But if by some miracle they do come back, I'll be the first to stand up and say I was wrong.

oeo
08-06-2007, 12:03 PM
While I appreciate the confidence, I think finishing at or over .500 will be a more realistic goal. They are only .500 after the break, and would need to go on a run like CLE did in 2005 to even come close. And even they finished six behind when all was said and done.

Not enough time, and too many grains have slipped through the hourglass.

But if by some miracle they do come back, I'll be the first to stand up and say I was wrong.

The way the division looks right now, 'at or over .500' may win it.

upperdeckusc
08-06-2007, 12:11 PM
i think one of the big things is that with this start, floyd showed us that he can have success in places other than AAA. confidence is a key thing to have in the majors. hopefully he can remember and repeat everything he did last night as far as location goes. if he can keep the ball down, he can HOPEFULLY become a serviceable 5th starter or better down the road. if he can keep this up, looking at him, gio, egbert, DLS, we can have some amazing pitching looking down the road as long as we dont do anymore 1 yr rental trades where these guys are included. with this said, i think its imperative that we trade contreras and include salary to that team (3-5 mil?). give us another a shortstop anywhere in the minors that has shown upside (AAA thru A, i dont care). now lets take 2 out of 3 or hopefully another sweep from cleveland to let them know we aint layin down on '07....

stl_sox_fan
08-06-2007, 12:15 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned already, anyone know why Mag's HR is the top play of the day on whitesox.com? Try to ignore the mini ad you have to sit through...

soxinem1
08-06-2007, 12:32 PM
The way the division looks right now, 'at or over .500' may win it.

I don't care how good or bad a team is, they will have slumps, and they will have stretches when they play well.

The AL Central winner will not be a few games over .500. Not this year. This is not quite 1984-1997 again.

oeo
08-06-2007, 12:53 PM
I don't care how good or bad a team is, they will have slumps, and they will have stretches when they play well.

The AL Central winner will not be a few games over .500. Not this year. This is not quite 1984-1997 again.

I've said since day one that this division is overrated. I also said the Indians and Tigers would struggle mightily in the second half. So far, both are looking to be true.

chisoxmike
08-06-2007, 12:56 PM
I've said since day one that this division is overrated. I also said the Indians and Tigers would struggle mightily in the second half. So far, both are looking to be true.


:worship: oeo

HotelWhiteSox
08-06-2007, 01:44 PM
In the offseason I didn't think the division would be as good as last year (predicted Yankees for the WC), Cle has surprised me the most. I think Det is the real deal, but do not fear them head to head. It's weird, I think Cleveland is better than us and would fear them head to head, but don't think they'll get to the postseason. Maybe we're just in Det's head. They're in a tough stretch right now too

If we were competitive or this did turn into a race, my biggest head to head fear would be Minnesota, I hate those bastards

oeo
08-06-2007, 01:48 PM
:worship: oeo

:redneck

I wasn't trying to be like that. I'm just saying, the division is overrated, so it's not out of the question that you might not even need 90 wins to take the division, especially with the Tigers and Indians taking a big fall.

And I was trying to prove that these are not new feelings of mine after the Indians and Tigers started to 'slump,' but I've instead felt that the division and those two teams are overrated since day one.

Marqhead
08-06-2007, 01:52 PM
In the offseason I didn't think the division would be as good as last year (predicted Yankees for the WC), Cle has surprised me the most. I think Det is the real deal, but do not fear them head to head. It's weird, I think Cleveland is better than us and would fear them head to head, but don't think they'll get to the postseason. Maybe we're just in Det's head. They're in a tough stretch right now too

If we were competitive or this did turn into a race, my biggest head to head fear would be Minnesota, I hate those bastards

The thing about the top central teams is that they all have one glaring weakness (as do most other teams in the mlb) which makes you and I not fear them so much.

Indians - Aside from Sabathia I'm not afraid of their starting pitchers, in addition having Borowski at the end of the game is always a liability. In general their staff is just plain weak.

Tigers - The bullpen without Zumaya is atrocious, having guys like Grilli coming in for middle relief always gives the opposing team a shot to get back in it. Todd Jones, sure he has 30+ saves but that goes along with a 4/5+ ERA.

Twins - Their offense is come and go I am fear Hunter and Morneau, but at times they look real weak at the plate and have trouble scoring in bunches. In addition, their defense is quite awful.

It seems like we match up well with all these teams, and we should be able to get right back in it next year. A few things have to change, players need to step up (especially rookies) and we need to keep away those nagging injuries and we should be able to compete with any team in this division.

Chez
08-06-2007, 01:52 PM
I've been a reader of this board for over a year and have never felt compelled to register and actually post, but today i do. if, and that is a big IF we sweep the indians we are right in back in this in a big way.

Welcome. As others have posted, finishing the year at .500 is a realistic goal. It would take a collapse of near epic proportion by TWO teams (and there's the rub) for the Sox to get close to the top -- and then you still have the Twins to consider. It ain't going to happen.

chisoxmike
08-06-2007, 02:34 PM
:redneck

I wasn't trying to be like that.

I know, I was just screwing around. :bandance:

KyWhiSoxFan
08-06-2007, 04:24 PM
my biggest head to head fear would be Minnesota, I hate those bastards

Amen.

Nellie_Fox
08-07-2007, 12:30 AM
:worship: oeoHey, throw enough crap against the wall, some of it is bound to stick.:tongue: