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C-Dawg
07-18-2007, 12:44 PM
Or maybe that word should be stadia?

Anyway, my "Doomed Ballpark Tour" this year took me to New York so I could experience both of their ballparks for the first time. The pictures are posted in the WSI Photo Gallery section, under "Other Parks". Feel free to check them out, and my other pics as well.

A few comments. Both parks are old and showing their age. Shea Stadium is the same age I am, so it'll be a little humbling to see it go (of course, other departed parks such as Busch and Riverfront were even younger). Yankee Stadium is much older, and as most of you know it was rebuilt in 1975 (I believe) and architectually is a mishmash of old and new designs. The modernistic escalator towers and upper deck framing make it look modern from the outside but the interior corridors are very traditional, dark and narrow, a little like Old Comiskey.

We didn't get a chance to get into Monument Park, but I understand the gist of it.... the Yankees had a lot of great players and won a bunch of World Series'... blaa blaa. I was too busy walking around to wait in line for it.

Fans at both parks were friendly. In three New York games, I saw the home team win each time, so I guess that keeps them happy. I suppose if Toronto had beaten the Yankees badly, I might have gotten a little flack for cheering for Frank Thomas. Actually, at the Mets games, I was prepared to root for the Mets, but then when we picked the dates and the opponent happened to be the Reds, I knew I'd be secretely rooting for them instead (Cincy was my birthplace and probably is my favorite NL team).

By the way, New York is crazy big and busy. Their subway system makes ours look small and quaint. Laguardia Airport reminds me of Midway circa about 1990; busy, but before the 90's-era modernization. Tons of really neat architecture everywhere, including some really cool Art Deco buildings at the airport, and lots of fantastic bridges and viaducts everywhere. The Number 7 subway, made famous by John Rocker's rant a few years ago, flies over various Queens neighborhoods on enormous concrete viaducts that are about 3 stories tall.

I never did get a chance to see if our CTA transit cards work in NY; maybe next time I see the Sox I'll try my New York Metrocard in the turnstyle here and see if it works.

Fenway
07-18-2007, 02:00 PM
CTA cards worked for about a month until the NY Post wrote that CTA cards actually increased in value when swiped in NYC. Cubic fixed it :tongue:


Shea started going downhill in the late 80's as the NYC Parks Department just had massive budget cuts. The area around the stadium is pretty ugly with junkyards and tire dumps. One mile away you would think you took the 7 train to Korea.


http://z.about.com/d/queens/1/0/h/3/streetsigns.jpg

Yankee Stadium for all its warts is still the most exciting venue to watch a game, it is electric ( especially when Boston is there )

Was 96 year old Bob Sheppard working that night? ( he has missed a few games this year )

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/blog/sheppard-thumb.jpg
VOICE OF GOD

palehozenychicty
07-18-2007, 02:20 PM
shea is a certifiable dump. as fens noted, head to flushing proper after a met game and you can get the most amazing korean and chinese food anywhere short of seoul or shanghai.

yankee stadium is a fun place to watch baseball. their food and beer choices are generic and lame, though. i love it when the sox come up, as i attend yearly. and it's a short bus ride from my building. :D:

HotelWhiteSox
07-18-2007, 02:30 PM
CTA cards worked for about a month until the NY Post wrote that CTA cards actually increased in value when swiped in NYC. Cubic fixed it :tongue:


Shea started going downhill in the late 80's as the NYC Parks Department just had massive budget cuts. The area around the stadium is pretty ugly with junkyards and tire dumps. One mile away you would think you took the 7 train to Korea.


http://z.about.com/d/queens/1/0/h/3/streetsigns.jpg


Haha, I went to Shea during the whole SARS outbreak, I was a little worried

C-Dawg
07-18-2007, 03:01 PM
Shea started going downhill in the late 80's as the NYC Parks Department just had massive budget cuts. The area around the stadium is pretty ugly with junkyards and tire dumps.

Yeah, I noticed the junkyards just east of the park. I overheard a lot of comments about how the new place will actually be closer to them than before. And, yes, the place shows its age. I went to Busch during its final year, and the whole place was spotless. I wouldn't describe Shea as filthy, but it could sure use a good cleaning. Plenty of seats in the upper deck looked like the lower portion was drooping; I can't imagine how uncomfortable they must have been.

Was 96 year old Bob Sheppard working that night? ( he has missed a few games this year )

That must have been him. He sure didn't sound like a youngster.

Fenway
07-18-2007, 03:16 PM
That must have been him. He sure didn't sound like a youngster.
he didn't sound young in 1975 either :tongue:

I will be very happy when Shea is blown up. I saw the Patriots blow a chance to go to Super Bowl I when Joe Namath upset them the last week of the season.

Needing only a victory in their final game against the New York Jets on December 17 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_17) to reach the AFL title contest, the Patriots instead saw their 1966 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1966) season end with an 38-28 upset loss. The defeat was softened somewhat when Holovak again won the league's Coach of the Year accolade.

That Patriots team was the FIRST AFL team ever on the SI cover (1966)
the Jets game was the next game after it came out....

http://i.cnn.net/si/si_online/covers/images/1966/1212_large.jpg

1986 nuf ced

Did see the Red Sox sweep the Yankees there in 1975

C-Dawg
07-18-2007, 03:32 PM
From a distance, the famed Mets Apple looked like it was covered in pigeon droppings; I guess looking closer its just faded.

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4428/applehk0.jpg

Paulwny
07-18-2007, 03:45 PM
Needing only a victory in their final game against the New York Jets on December 17 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_17) to reach the AFL title contest, the Patriots instead saw their 1966 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1966) season end with an 38-28 upset loss. The defeat was softened somewhat when Holovak again won the league's Coach of the Year accolade.

That Patriots team was the FIRST AFL team ever on the SI cover (1966)
the Jets game was the next game after it came out....

http://i.cnn.net/si/si_online/covers/images/1966/1212_large.jpg



Fens, maybe the Bills were the first team on the cover of SI, quite a few Bills in the picture and they did win the division that year. :tongue:

South Side Irish
07-18-2007, 10:21 PM
Good info, man... thanks! I'm headed there next summer, should tickets be attainable, and this post just gets me jacked up to be there!

HotelWhiteSox
07-18-2007, 11:34 PM
Nice pics, I am definately spoiled by our concourse

MUsoxfan
07-19-2007, 12:00 AM
I made a 3 stadium trip two weeks ago that was very cool. I was gonna give the full summary, but the Reader's Digest version will do just the same:

- Shea Stadium is awful. It's merely a semi-circle with seats that has no character at all. There are some seats with an impossible view. Tickets are expensive as well

- Yankee Stadium was cool ****. I recommend it to everyone. Love or hate the Yankees (I hate them), there was something special about walking into that building and admiring the field. Don't drink there. Beers are about $10. But it was pretty cool


There are other reviews on Citizens Bank Park from a few weeks ago that I don't really disagree on. It's a cool place that I'd go to again.