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Fenway
07-13-2007, 02:08 PM
Tonight Philadelphia can make baseball history

10,000 losses


YOU KNOW how you can't pick your parents? It is the same way with your baseball team. You don't have a choice, not really. The team picks you, and you are really pretty powerless to do much about it.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20070713_Rich_Hofmann___Loyal_fans_the_real_story_ of_9_999-loss_Phils.html

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palehozenychicty
07-13-2007, 02:09 PM
The fightin' Phils....sheesh. They perenially disappoint unlike anyone else.

CubsfansareDRUNK
07-13-2007, 02:38 PM
Haha! Great read :redneck

Fenway
07-13-2007, 02:39 PM
The program was printed, tickets sold but....

Everything seemed to be going the Phillies’ way. Up by 6 1/2 games with just 12 left to play in the 1964 season, they appeared to have clinched their first pennant in more than a decade. Outfielder Johnny Callison narrowly missed being the National League MVP. Third baseman Richie Allen was Rookie of the Year.

But the “Fightin’ Phils” didn’t make it to the postseason—they lost 10 straight and finished a game behind the St. Louis Cardinals.



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lostfan
07-13-2007, 09:23 PM
But the “Fightin’ Phils” didn’t make it to the postseason—they lost 10 straight and finished a game behind the St. Louis Cardinals.



For a few weeks I was worried the '05 Sox were gonna pull one of those for a few weeks. Thank god they heated back up.

WhiteSoxJunkie
07-13-2007, 10:22 PM
It's a little unfair that this is getting so much attention. I mean the team has been around since 1883. Of course, they are going to lose alot of games. Look at Cy Young. Everyone knows he has the career record for wins. But he also has the career record for losses. It's because he pitched all the time. Yet the most presitigious pitching award is named after him.

downstairs
07-14-2007, 12:11 PM
It's a little unfair that this is getting so much attention. I mean the team has been around since 1883. Of course, they are going to lose alot of games. Look at Cy Young. Everyone knows he has the career record for wins. But he also has the career record for losses. It's because he pitched all the time. Yet the most presitigious pitching award is named after him.

Sort-of, but they have such an amazing history of losing. I mean decades and decades and decades of it. The 80s-90s were their *golden* years, you have to remember.

SI had a great column on the Phillies history- worth a read.

The 10,000 is a cumulative stat, sure... but its just fitting that they'd get there first.

DumpJerry
07-14-2007, 01:16 PM
Some days it feels like the White Sox have lost 10K since last year's All Star Break.:(:

CLR01
07-14-2007, 04:12 PM
It's a little unfair that this is getting so much attention. I mean the team has been around since 1883. Of course, they are going to lose alot of games. Look at Cy Young. Everyone knows he has the career record for wins. But he also has the career record for losses. It's because he pitched all the time. Yet the most presitigious pitching award is named after him.

But the Phillies don't lead the wins category, too. In fact, they are dead last among teams formed at the same time or before and the teams that formed 20 years later are already catching them and passing them.

WINS
Giants 1883 10,151
Cubs 1876 9945
Dodgers 1884 9844
Cards 1882 9805
Braves 1876 9660
Reds 1882 9637
Pirates 1882 9596
Yankees 1901 9332
Phillies 1883 8809
Red Sox 1901 8498

And if it is simply longevity then why haven't the Braves, Cubs, Pirates, Reds, Cards, Giants or Dodgers all hit 10,000 losses or at least be set to pass it like the Phillies? They all have several seasons to go before they start sniffing it.

Losses
Phillies 1883 9999
Braves 1876 9681
Cubs 1876 9425
Pirates 1882 9340
Reds 1882 9339
Cards 1882 9157
Dodgers 1884 8932
Giants 1883 8682
Orioles 1901 8629
Twins 1901 8557

The Phillies reaching the 10,000 loss mark has as much to do with longevity as it does their general ability to suck year in and year out. See the early 1900's, mid 1900's, late 1900's. 72 of their 125 seasons have featured a record under .500. Poor Phillies, sniff.

Fenway
07-14-2007, 04:18 PM
Of the original 16 teams the Phillies are by far the worse. Only one World Series win.

Yet it was the A's that left only because in the early 50's the Phillies were a decent club and even won the pennant in 1950.( the only team that wasn't from New York City to do so in 10 years )

Phillies fans are loyal, love the team ( most of the time ) and boo a lot. I enjoy games there.



But the Phillies don't lead the wins category, too. In fact, they are dead last among teams formed at the same time or before and the teams that formed 20 years later are already catching them and passing them.

WINS
Giants 1883 10,151
Cubs 1876 9945
Dodgers 1884 9844
Cards 1882 9805
Braves 1876 9660
Reds 1882 9637
Pirates 1882 9596
Yankees 1901 9332
Phillies 1883 8809
Red Sox 1901 8498

And if it is simply longevity then why haven't the Braves, Cubs, Pirates, Reds, Cards, Giants or Dodgers all hit 10,000 losses or at least be set to pass it like the Phillies? They all have several seasons to go before they start sniffing it.

Losses
Phillies 1883 9999
Braves 1876 9681
Cubs 1876 9425
Pirates 1882 9340
Reds 1882 9339
Cards 1882 9157
Dodgers 1884 8932
Giants 1883 8682
Orioles 1901 8629
Twins 1901 8557

The Phillies reaching the 10,000 loss mark has as much to do with longevity as it does their general ability to suck year in and year out. See the early 1900's, mid 1900's, late 1900's. 72 of their 125 seasons have feature a record under .500.

DoItForDanPasqua
07-15-2007, 02:56 PM
WINS
Giants 1883 10,151
Cubs 1876 9945
Dodgers 1884 9844
Cards 1882 9805
Braves 1876 9660
Reds 1882 9637
Pirates 1882 9596
Yankees 1901 9332
Phillies 1883 8809
Red Sox 1901 8498




The Cubs will likely win their 10,000th game the same year they reach 100 years since winning the World Series.

Railsplitter
07-15-2007, 07:01 PM
I'd like to see the team ranked by winning percentage.

CLR01
07-15-2007, 07:38 PM
I'd like to see the team ranked by winning percentage.

They're not so bad when you rank them that way. They're in the top 26 of currently active teams for win %...


http://whitesoxinteractive.com/chisox716/standings.jpg

UTD through 7-14-07. We can probably chalk that up to longevity, too.

PKalltheway
07-15-2007, 09:26 PM
It is official. Phils lose number 10,000.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=270715122

South Side Irish
07-15-2007, 09:36 PM
It's remarkable that the Pirates are still in the top 10 in winning percentage, considering the decade and a half fun of futility. Just shows what a truly great franchise they once were.

I didn't realize the Sox were so relatively high, at #12. There were some baaaad years - hell, bad decades - in their history.

getonbckthr
07-15-2007, 09:41 PM
Congrats Philly.:gulp:

Fenway
07-16-2007, 09:46 AM
:lol: I love this headline

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Fenway
07-16-2007, 03:20 PM
Phillies fans have good dark humor

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WhiteSoxJunkie
07-17-2007, 01:39 AM
I saw on SportsCenter that the Blackhawks have more losses than any other NHL team. The Cardinals have the most among NFL teams, and I think it was the Warriors with the most in the NBA.