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AaronRowandFan33
07-05-2007, 08:09 PM
Please know that this information pains me as much as anyone. And I'm not trying to be a pessimist, just a realist.

Well, we're halfway throught the season and the Good Guys have a record of 36-45. So that means that in order to win 95 games (and have a legitimate shot at the wild card) they'll need to go 59-22 starting tonight 7/5. That's a .728 winning percentage.

To put this into futher perspective, the '05 Sox had only 57 wins at the break in their red hot first half where they started 16-4. They only had 42 wins when they lost their 22nd game, and they had 29 losses after getting their 59th win.

Since this will not be happening, I guess its officially time to switch completely into "let's focus on '08" mode. Now if you'll excuse me, I've got a few DVD's from 2005 to watch...




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anewman35
07-05-2007, 08:14 PM
Time to get realistic? It was time to get realistic weeks ago.

JB98
07-05-2007, 08:16 PM
I don't think anyone has playoff hopes for this season. Sox fans have always been realistic. If anything, I think people are being more gloomier than ever. Some people have even posted here that we'll lose 100 games.

kittle42
07-05-2007, 08:18 PM
Time to get realistic? It was time to get realistic weeks ago.

Amen.

AaronRowandFan33
07-05-2007, 08:19 PM
okay, realistic was probably the wrong word. But I just keep reading threads like "okay we have one last run in us" "not out of it yet" etc. And I just kinda laughed it off because they've really only had like one "run" all year. But not until I just did the math in my head of what they need to do to make it to 95 wins did I have hard numbers to make me give up on the season...




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Boondock Saint
07-05-2007, 08:23 PM
:threadsucks

This hasn't been news to any of us for quite some time. Have you seen how many "what do we do now/who do we trade/who do we trade for/can we get Ichiro or ARod?" threads there have been?

Goose
07-05-2007, 08:25 PM
So that means that in order to win 95 games (and have a legitimate shot at the wild card) they'll need to go 59-22 starting tonight 7/5. That's a .728 winning percentage.

So you're saying we have a chance...

QCIASOXFAN
07-05-2007, 09:07 PM
I can see us rattling off 12-15 game and getting right back into the race. Get off the ledge people, this team will be OK.

SOXandILLINI
07-05-2007, 09:20 PM
I can see us rattling off 12-15 game and getting right back into the race. Get off the ledge people, this team will be OK.

If this isn't teal, you might wanna take a sedative.

kittle42
07-05-2007, 09:26 PM
I can see us rattling off 12-15 game and getting right back into the race. Get off the ledge people, this team will be OK.

CLR and Patrick have already beat you to this schtick. :D:

Railsplitter
07-05-2007, 09:31 PM
I'm looking for .500 this year. I believe it is achievable.

QCIASOXFAN
07-05-2007, 09:32 PM
CLR and Patrick have already beat you to this schtick. :D:
I'm not sure how much of it is schtick when it comes to Patrick.:unsure:

doublem23
07-05-2007, 10:08 PM
I'm looking for .500 this year. I believe it is achievable.

Realist goals still are to finish .500+ and in third place.

Barring Cleveland and Detroit completely falling apart, the play-offs are a pipe dream now.

At their current pace, the Tribe wins 97 games and the Tigers win 96.

Iguana775
07-05-2007, 10:23 PM
I don't think anyone here really thought the Sox still had a chance at the playoffs. If they did, they were smoking something nasty.

RowanDye
07-05-2007, 10:43 PM
Realist goals still are to finish .500+ and in third place.

Barring Cleveland and Detroit completely falling apart, the play-offs are a pipe dream now.

At their current pace, the Tribe wins 97 games and the Tigers win 96.

I remember when we were "on pace" for well over 100 wins in '05 and look where that ended up.

It's not so much that we're impossibly far behind, but that our team is mediocre and inconsistent.

We'll be lucky just to finish at .500

itsnotrequired
07-05-2007, 10:44 PM
Since this will not be happening, I guess its officially time to switch completely into "let's focus on '08" mode. Now if you'll excuse me, I've got a few DVD's from 2005 to watch...

I plan on going to 40 more games this season and am very much living in 2007.

RockJock07
07-06-2007, 12:55 AM
Yeah, "this thread sucks" guy pisses me off, if it sucks, why post?

Anyway, Yeah, this team is done. It has been done for a month now, if not more. Finishing .500 is the only goal i'm setting for this team. I also want to see Uribe, Contrares, and Dye gone off of this team.

StillMissOzzie
07-06-2007, 02:48 AM
Well, we're halfway throught the season and the Good Guys have a record of 36-45. So that means that in order to win 95 games (and have a legitimate shot at the wild card) they'll need to go 59-22 starting tonight 7/5. That's a .728 winning percentage.


One down, 58 to go!

SMO
whoopee

RedHeadPaleHoser
07-06-2007, 06:54 AM
I plan on going to 40 more games this season and am very much living in 2007.

While I won't make 40 games, I will make at least 10, and won't focus on 2008 until the 2007 season is over. I want a "winning" record for this team, so we can at least see huge positives over the course of the year from how it all started.

I am realistic insofar as the season isn't over until September 30. I focus not on October baseball for this team but enjoying July, August and September baseball as much as possible.

Dice
07-06-2007, 07:24 AM
I'm looking for .500 this year. I believe it is achievable.

.500 is very realistic. I also believe we can spoil the hopes of either Cleveland or Detroit to win the Central. If we can't win the division then let's mess things up for one of those teams.

The Immigrant
07-06-2007, 07:39 AM
So you're saying we have a chance...

That's gold, Jerry.

Frater Perdurabo
07-06-2007, 07:55 AM
I'm not saying it's realistic, but it is mathematically possible for the Sox to be a major factor in the AL Central and/or Wild Card race. In fact, with all the games they have remaining with Cleveland (12) and Detroit (14), they do "control their own destiny." Forty-six of 80 games are in the Central. Winning every remaining series (going 54-26 in the last 80 games) puts them at 91-71.

Until the Sox are mathematically eliminated, I'll hold out hope. Realistically, I think they will miss the playoffs, but their ellimination date will come much later than many of us currently predict it will. I predict they will finish seven or eight games back, and we'll look back upon all the blown leads the bullpen coughed up and the great performances by the starting pitchers that the offense wasted (recent Cubs series comes to mind), much like we looked back at 2006 and all the games lost by Mackowiak's CF defense and the Cotts/Politte implosions.

SBSoxFan
07-06-2007, 08:10 AM
.500 is very realistic. I also believe we can spoil the hopes of either Cleveland or Detroit to win the Central. If we can't win the division then let's mess things up for one of those teams.

I'm still looking for 85 wins. Shoot for 500 first. Then, look to third place. After that, if there's any season left, keep looking up.

nccwsfan
07-06-2007, 09:00 AM
A realistic goal for me would be to finish with 82 wins. Any wins above that total would be gravy.

russ99
07-06-2007, 09:23 AM
To me, this weekend will tell the tale of the rest of the season.

As of this morning, the Sox are only 5 games behind the Twins, and we play them 4 games before the All-Star break starts on Sunday night.

If the Twins win 3-4, season's over, trade everybody. If the Sox can salvage 3-4 or sweep, all bets are off, and a .500 season is a possibility.

I hope Kenny's paying attention too...

southside rocks
07-06-2007, 09:26 AM
.500 is very realistic. I also believe we can spoil the hopes of either Cleveland or Detroit to win the Central. If we can't win the division then let's mess things up for one of those teams.

That's my hope for the season too. I want to see good baseball, and I want the team to finish above .500. And I've got 6 more games on my Ozzie Plan and I'll probably buy tickets to that many more.

balke
07-06-2007, 09:37 AM
They could give themselves some kind of hope if they win 4 straight against Minnesota. If they can catch up to the Twinks, they can whack away at the Wild Card. I'd love to see 4 all around games to finish out the first half, and get closer to being 10 back of the Wild Card.

Teams have made better comebacks before. Sox have a lot of injuries to deal with though.



Usually when I say something like this the Sox end up losing the series though :(. I think I thought like this in 2003 and 2004. Its better just to realize there is no hope sometimes.

BeviBall!
07-06-2007, 09:40 AM
Time to get realistic? It was time to get realistic weeks ago.

Seriously. Going by this calendar, we have Memorial Day weekend coming up! Sweet!

mzol11
07-06-2007, 10:24 AM
I'm not saying it's realistic, but it is mathematically possible for the Sox to be a major factor in the AL Central and/or Wild Card race. In fact, with all the games they have remaining with Cleveland (12) and Detroit (14), they do "control their own destiny." Forty-six of 80 games are in the Central. Winning every remaining series (going 54-26 in the last 80 games) puts them at 91-71.

Until the Sox are mathematically eliminated, I'll hold out hope. Realistically, I think they will miss the playoffs, but their ellimination date will come much later than many of us currently predict it will. I predict they will finish seven or eight games back, and we'll look back upon all the blown leads the bullpen coughed up and the great performances by the starting pitchers that the offense wasted (recent Cubs series comes to mind), much like we looked back at 2006 and all the games lost by Mackowiak's CF defense and the Cotts/Politte implosions.

I'm with you! And next year we are going to go 162-0. Q: Who would win in a game between the Tigers vs. mini Ozzie? A: Mini Ozzie 142 Tigers -2 (Mini Ozzie would find a way).

PaleHosed
07-06-2007, 10:32 AM
It may be doubtful that they'll be able to pull it off this year but just a little reminder...

On 7/14/2006 the Minnesota Twins were 12 games back. Guess who won the division?

It's possible and its been done and that's why I keep my little seed of hope.

lostfan
07-06-2007, 10:47 AM
It may be doubtful that they'll be able to pull it off this year but just a little reminder...

On 7/14/2006 the Minnesota Twins were 12 games back. Guess who won the division?

It's possible and its been done and that's why I keep my little seed of hope.
Well, we helped their odds quite a bit by choking.

If I had to pick between the Tigers and the Indians, I'd say the Indians are more likely to put up a nice choke job.

AuroraSoxFan
07-06-2007, 10:58 AM
For me a winning record for the 2nd half would be nice. If the overall record falls below 500 I'd be disappointed since it would be the 1st sub 500 season since what 1999 or so?? But even if that occurred and they held a winning record for the 2nd half it would at least be something to build some future hope off of. In addition, I hope they can ruin some important games for MN and CLE. DET doesn't aggravate me as much as the other 2.

Lip Man 1
07-06-2007, 11:51 AM
Aurora:

The Sox haven't had a losing season since 1999. The last 'non-winning' season they had was 2002 when they went exactly 81-81.

Lip

russ99
07-06-2007, 03:09 PM
To me, this weekend will tell the tale of the rest of the season.

As of this morning, the Sox are only 5 games behind the Twins, and we play them 4 games before the All-Star break starts on Sunday night.

If the Twins win 3-4, season's over, trade everybody. If the Sox can salvage 3-4 or sweep, all bets are off, and a .500 season is a possibility.

I hope Kenny's paying attention too...

Oh well, forget that... :(: