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LITTLE NELL
07-04-2007, 03:59 PM
Im curious what everyone thinks the Sox should do with Tadahito. Do we resign him or trade him. I dont think we have anyone in the minors to replace him. Id like to keep him a couple more years even though hes having an off year.

DumpJerry
07-04-2007, 04:00 PM
I like him. Sign him.

Teach him how to bunt, by the way.

getonbckthr
07-04-2007, 04:00 PM
Trade him. He has digressed since 05. Richar looks to be the real deal and we should give him a shot.

LITTLE NELL
07-04-2007, 04:09 PM
Trade him. He has digressed since 05. Richar looks to be the real deal and we should give him a shot.
How did we aqquire Richar. I checked his stats for this year, not bad.

viagracat
07-04-2007, 04:10 PM
Trade him. He has digressed since 05. Richar looks to be the real deal and we should give him a shot.

I agree. He seems to have more than his share of concentration problems out on the field as well. It hurts me to say that because he's one of my favorite members on the Sox. But it's not happening the way it used to. I think if the Sox do back up the truck Gooch will be one of the first ones to go. :(:

Jurr
07-04-2007, 04:28 PM
Call me crazy, but I think Andy Gonzalez has potential at that spot. Yeah, I'm probably crazy. :rolleyes:

CWSpalehoseCWS
07-04-2007, 04:50 PM
I don't think they should trade him. Wait the rest of the year out, and see how Richar looks when the September callups come around. If he looks good, then let Iguchi walk, if not, then sign him.

MISoxfan
07-04-2007, 04:54 PM
I didn't have extra innings last season, but was he really that bad in the field last year? All I ever hear is how about how he has been worse every year since '05. He swung the bat better last year than he did in 2005.

TheCommander
07-04-2007, 05:02 PM
I like him. Sign him.

Teach him how to bunt, by the way.

But what kind of NTC do we offer him?

y2j2785
07-04-2007, 05:13 PM
How did we aqquire Richar. I checked his stats for this year, not bad.

Got him a few weeks ago from the Diamondbacks in exchange for OF Aaron Cunningham.

Lip Man 1
07-04-2007, 05:38 PM
I think if the Sox have their druthers he'll be elsewhere next season.

They probably weren't happy with his (paraphrasing) 'I want to play in a warmer location and on the West Coast' comments.

Also my own opinion is that I think he has regressed since 2005. His defense is down, and for some bizarre reason he can no longer execute the simplist fundamentials (i.e. bunting) which should be second nature to a Japanese player.

If I had to place money on it I think he's in another uniform next season.

Lip

JB98
07-04-2007, 06:00 PM
Trade him and give Richar a shot.

Iguchi's production is way, way down this year. Too many DPs not turned this year as well. He and Uribe share the blame for that.

goon
07-04-2007, 06:05 PM
Trade him and give Richar a shot.

Iguchi's production is way, way down this year. Too many DPs not turned this year as well. He and Uribe share the blame for that.

I wonder if his production is down because he is constantly batting with no one on base and one out and/or Guillen keeps throwing him around in the lineup. Either way, he's got decent power, some speed and he's pretty good with the glove. If Richar reacts well to playing SS in the minors, I say re-sign Iguchi and trade Juan. However, if the Sox can get some decent prospects for Iguchi, it might be smart to trade him.

103 screwball
07-04-2007, 06:08 PM
Richar should prove he can play adequate defense first. What about Ozzie's old buddy Castillo?

NoNeckEra
07-04-2007, 06:28 PM
Also my own opinion is that I think he has regressed since 2005. His defense is down, and for some bizarre reason he can no longer execute the simplist fundamentials (i.e. bunting) which should be second nature to a Japanese player.

Lip
I agree here. Sorry, but my second baseman(and shortstop, for that matter) needs to be very solid defensively, and be able to do the little things offensively.

He's a good fit on teams that may need pop from that position but not the Sox, who need "grinders".

fusillirob1983
07-04-2007, 07:08 PM
What about Ozzie's old buddy Castillo?


Exactly what I did with my fantasy team - dropped Iguchi and picked up Castillo (my team sucks). Seriously though, obviously his offensive numbers are down from last year, RBI probably due to less baserunners as a team. It's hard to tell if it's just a fluke thing like JD, Konerko, and the rest of the team. I wouldn't mind him being on the team next year though and a down year should make him more affordable.

Brian26
07-04-2007, 07:15 PM
Trade him and give Richar a shot.

Iguchi's production is way, way down this year. Too many DPs not turned this year as well. He and Uribe share the blame for that.

Iguchi's always had a problem with the 6-4-3 DP's. He's never learned to sidestep or hop out of the way. The guy takes a lot of abuse down there because he's constantly getting hammered, but I think it all stems from his time in Japan. From what I've read, runners don't take hard slides over there as a matter of courtesy, and Iguchi never needed to teach himseld to get out of the way.

JB98
07-04-2007, 08:56 PM
I wonder if his production is down because he is constantly batting with no one on base and one out and/or Guillen keeps throwing him around in the lineup. Either way, he's got decent power, some speed and he's pretty good with the glove. If Richar reacts well to playing SS in the minors, I say re-sign Iguchi and trade Juan. However, if the Sox can get some decent prospects for Iguchi, it might be smart to trade him.

I think his production is down because he's been miserable in clutch situations. He's not alone in that area, of course. Tonight marks the halfway point, and he has 4 HRs and 20 RBIs. That's much, much lower than what we saw from Iguchi his first two years.

By way of comparison, Josh Fields has 4 HRs and 15 RBIs in about 175 fewer plate appearances.

Tragg
07-04-2007, 10:18 PM
Tonight he had the indignity of being pinch hit for by ozzie's #1 pinch hitter:----->Cintron.

NSSoxFan
07-04-2007, 10:23 PM
When I look at this 2007 team, Tadahito's name isn't the first to come to my mind as to why we're bad. As for the future, I think he can be a good 2B. If KW is serious about not going through a total re-building process. then I would think they would sign him to a good contract.

CWSpalehoseCWS
07-04-2007, 10:26 PM
Richar should prove he can play adequate defense first. What about Ozzie's old buddy Castillo?

Every report on Richar I've read says he's a butcher in the field, but has a gun.

Nellie_Fox
07-05-2007, 12:26 AM
Every report on Richar I've read says he's a butcher in the field, but has a gun.That's not encouraging. You can live with a weak arm at second, but not a bad glove.

KenBerryGrab
07-05-2007, 09:20 AM
Keep him. He's having a down period, but he's better than anyone we had there for a while. Or do you forget the daze of D'Angelo Jimenez and the shell of Roberto Alomar?

Frater Perdurabo
07-05-2007, 11:28 AM
It really depends on what KW can get in return for him, and if losing Iguchi as a FA would result in a compensatory 1st round draft choice.

If there is a team looking to upgrade 2B and is willing to give up a nice prospect, then trade Iguchi to that team.

GlassSox
07-05-2007, 12:21 PM
If we are changing the infield we need to do it in this order: a) someone on 3rd who can take the ball out of his glove without fumbling it and then actually throw it to another Sox player, b) a new short stop for more reasons than I have time to type, and then c) a better 2nd baseman than Iguchi.

The prospects we have dealt for already haven't shown the performance so maybe we should deal for someone who is already a proven MLB player, oh yea we might not be able to spend that much money or give them a no trade clause or whatever the latest excuse is.

Oh hell, fire Kenny, Ozzie, and the entire staff. Dump all the players and keep the Cell vendors. :angry:

oeo
07-05-2007, 12:26 PM
If we are changing the infield we need to do it in this order: a) someone on 3rd who can take the ball out of his glove without fumbling it and then actually throw it to another Sox player, b) a new short stop for more reasons than I have time to type, and then c) a better 2nd baseman than Iguchi.

Yeah, let's abandon Fields who has a bright future when his defensive problems are small things (like the exchange) which can be easily fixed with experience. We can go get Aaron Boone...there's a good idea!

The prospects we have dealt for already haven't shown the performance so maybe we should deal for someone who is already a proven MLB player, oh yea we might not be able to spend that much money or give them a no trade clause or whatever the latest excuse is.What prospects? Danks? Doing more than I expected. Gio? Doing great in Birmingham. Floyd (if he's considered that anymore, I don't think he is)? Great in Charlotte. Who the **** else? Not one guy has looked like complete ****.

esbrechtel
07-05-2007, 12:41 PM
I think lawerence holmes said on the Score today that Iguchi said that he wanted to stay in chicago...

voodoochile
07-05-2007, 12:45 PM
I think Gooch should go back to batting second. He proved the most capable of anyone the Sox have put there in a long time.

I would like to keep him, but I won't be surprised to see him traded though.

RowanDye
07-05-2007, 02:34 PM
Sign Iguchi, as long as we don't have to pay too much. He's an average 2nd baseman, and we just have too many other below-average holes to fill.

I've also wondered if keeping him would improve our chances of signing Kosuke Fukudome.

GlassSox
07-05-2007, 03:07 PM
I think Gooch should go back to batting second. He proved the most capable of anyone the Sox have put there in a long time.

I would like to keep him, but I won't be surprised to see him traded though.

I'm not sure where he should bat in the line up but he looks uncomfortable this year. Maybe all of the moving around in the lineup is not good for him. I don't know but he seems puzzled or something but so do a lot of the other guys. :?:

oeo
07-05-2007, 03:19 PM
Every report on Richar I've read says he's a butcher in the field, but has a gun.

I've read that about him playing SS, but since he's now playing 2B it could be different. He apparently threw the ball flat-footed at short far too often, but he can do that at second, mostly.

Another streaky hitter, though. :o:

Railsplitter
07-05-2007, 09:58 PM
I don't know why, but I only noticed this threat AFTER Icuchi missed out on the cycle.

Good show:gulp::gulp:

GlassSox
07-06-2007, 09:39 AM
Gooch looked pretty good last night and it was great being there and hearing the fan support. Let's hope he can get on a roll. :D: