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Paulwny
08-01-2001, 08:07 AM
Which do you feel the most, a sense of relief that none of the core players were traded or frustration that there weren't any moves of the marginal players and the JB trade was a joke?

delben91
08-01-2001, 11:03 AM
Relief, most definately relief

DuckSnort
08-01-2001, 11:06 AM
Little of both... but overall, I'm happy we still have our guys!

Tragg
08-01-2001, 11:14 AM
Frustration that nothing was done to improve our weaknesses.

But, looking at the trades, perhaps this wasn't the right time. No one was giving prospects. For all the hem and haw over astocio, they didn't get a whole lot, e.g.

After the season with more time to evaluate, we might be able to work something out to get some young positional talent in here. Still, making room for them via dumping clayton and alomar will be near impossible because of their contracts.

PaleHoseGeorge
08-01-2001, 11:39 AM
I didn't think there was much danger that the Sox would begin trading away key players. I think the J.B. trade would have been the right move if KW has bothered to understand precisely which players L.A. was offering.

As for acquiring players, I don't see where much was available that anybody would have traded to the Sox. I would rather see a series of deals and free agent signings during the off-season. That's when real progress is made.

Jerry_Manuel
08-01-2001, 11:46 AM
Well there is no point in trading guys like Perry,Singleton and Alomar just for the sake of getting them off the roster.

KingXerxes
08-01-2001, 11:46 AM
Frustration.

I would have loved to seen the WHITE SOX get a guy like Michael Tucker - and dump Singleton, keep Baldwin, and then inquire as to exactly what it would have taken to get Jason Schmidt - all these guys went way too cheap. They didn't need to mess with the future, all they needed (and still need) is a tweak or two to "jump start" them.

As hard as it is to admit, McPhail did not really empty out his farm system to acquire Tucker, DeShields, McGriff and Weathers. I think they're still hanging onto all of the guys that the national media has been fawning over. I don't think we have to really mortgage the future either in order to try and win this division.

Jerry_Manuel
08-01-2001, 11:51 AM
I would have loved to seen the WHITE SOX get a guy like Michael Tucker - and dump Singleton, keep Baldwin, and then inquire as to exactly what it would have taken to get Jason Schmidt - all these guys went way too cheap. They didn't need to mess with the future, all they needed (and still need) is a tweak or two to "jump start" them. As hard as it is to admit, McPhail did not really empty out his farm system to acquire Tucker, DeShields, McGriff and Weathers. I think they're still hanging onto all of the guys that the national media has been fawning over. I don't think we have to really mortgage the future either in order to try and win this division.

King I can see your side of the story but there is only one person's story that matters and that is Reinsdorf. The Baldwin deal was a salary dump and for a team that is not drawing he is not going to go and ADD more to the payroll. Even though it is my opinion that the season is over I would have liked to see Williams go out and try to make move to see if it could spark the team.

KingXerxes
08-01-2001, 02:06 PM
:reinsy

"Oh sure....It's my fault. The next thing you know, people will start accusing me of holding this team hostage in order to get a new stadium. Where does this stuff come from?"

Jerry_Manuel
08-01-2001, 02:09 PM
Where does this stuff come from?

:hawk
I say nothing but good things about you boss.

Procol Harum
08-01-2001, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by Jerry_Manuel


King I can see your side of the story but there is only one person's story that matters and that is Reinsdorf. The Baldwin deal was a salary dump and for a team that is not drawing he is not going to go and ADD more to the payroll. Even though it is my opinion that the season is over I would have liked to see Williams go out and try to make move to see if it could spark the team.

This is less strictly a money question than one rooted in Reinsdorf's twisted mix of personal pride and stubborness. He HAS spent money on occassion but, unfortunately for we Sox fans, most of those attempts (Belle, Navarro, D. Wells) have been a disaster. Then he blames Sox fans for not supporting the team when they play like crap--kinda like a restaurant owner who complains about people not being willing to buy enough of his s*** sandwiches to enable him to hire a gourmet chef. Other than simple numerical factors of there being more Cub fans in this area than there are Sox fans and the fact that the majority of Sox fans live at some remove from Comiskey out in the Western adn Southern 'burbs the bulk of the blame for any Sox attendance woes (and I use the term "woes" loosely--but that's another thread) should be laid at the doorstep of Jerry Reinsdorf and his sorry front office of like-minded paranoid, defensive goofs. If this team would ever establish itself as a winner with a capital W--and if Reinsdorf could avoid alienating the fans the Sox would have no trouble drawing 2.3 million and up each year.

Paulwny
08-01-2001, 02:27 PM
Agree Procol, WIN CONSISTANTLY and they will come.

Jerry_Manuel
08-01-2001, 02:30 PM
Agree Procol, WIN CONSISTANTLY and they will come.

:reinsy
How about if I sell the team will they come then?

Paulwny
08-01-2001, 02:38 PM
I live >500 miles away but I'll come to pack your bags.

KingXerxes
08-01-2001, 02:41 PM
:hawk

"Mercy..........Now I'm gonna let you all in on a little story about Mr. Reinsdorf....and I think that will truly show you all what a tremendous human being he is........then you can all stop yelling about him, and start showing up to the ballpark to watch our boys cinch it up and hunker down......Mercy!

In 1985 when this Chicago's entire media was sticking it up my keester over some of my general managerial decisions, Ol' Mr. Reinsdorf walked into my office, shut the door, and told me that if I didn't get the hell out of Chicago within the next 24 hours....well he was going to see to it that I did. Then walked in Ol' Lamar Johnson and Ol' Gail Hopkins, and Mr. Reinsdorf told them to escort me to the airport where a jet was waiting which shipped me off to New York.....Mercy....ten he held a press conference talking all about how sad he was to see me go.......Yessir!....a fine, fine man that Mr. Reinsdorf!"

Procol Harum
08-01-2001, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by Jerry_Manuel


:reinsy
How about if I sell the team will they come then?

In a New York stinkin' minute, Brooklyn Boy!!