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getonbckthr
06-25-2007, 10:21 PM
And gets JACKED UP by Wrigley security

chisoxmike
06-25-2007, 10:21 PM
I just saw that...HOLY ****!

Let's see if this gets on the news...:rolleyes:

cleanwsox
06-25-2007, 10:22 PM
Wow, saw that he blew it. But that is hilarious.

manders_01
06-25-2007, 10:23 PM
That was hilarious! Great hit Tulo!

hose
06-25-2007, 10:24 PM
what happened?

brewers5
06-25-2007, 10:24 PM
Some cubs fans do this, but remember what white sox fans did a few years ago...

VenturaFan23
06-25-2007, 10:24 PM
Yeah great fans :rolleyes:

Also they just blew a 5 run lead in the 9th! I guess they forgot they're playing a team that actually hits now.

JB98
06-25-2007, 10:25 PM
what happened?

Cubs lead 8-3 going to the ninth. Give up six runs, capped by a 3-run HR. Fan charges out of the stands at Bob Howry.

Colorado leading 9-8, still hitting, top 9.

santo=dorf
06-25-2007, 10:25 PM
Youtube link. NOW.

:knue:
"(panicking).....Quick! Somebody work up a fluff piece about Ligue. But for God's sakes don't mention Randy Myers' name!!!"

Hey Howry, tell us all against how awesome Cub fans are and how violent Sox fans are.

:gascan
"No comment."

CHISOXFAN13
06-25-2007, 10:26 PM
Some cubs fans do this, but remember what white sox fans did a few years ago...

Why are you here again?

manders_01
06-25-2007, 10:26 PM
what happened?

Troy Tulowitzki hit a 3-run homer to put the Rocks on top. Some fan wasn't happy about it.

Tragg
06-25-2007, 10:27 PM
Howry

Bwahahahahahaha

oeo
06-25-2007, 10:28 PM
Wow, saw that he blew it. But that is hilarious.

The sad thing is, we should have lit Howry up the past two games and couldn't do it. :(:

Back on topic...I wish I would have seen this.

VenturaFan23
06-25-2007, 10:28 PM
I guess this is what blowhard Chris Berman meant by Cub fans having more passion than us. :rolleyes:

JB98
06-25-2007, 10:28 PM
Some cubs fans do this, but remember what white sox fans did a few years ago...

Celebrate a World Series win?

That's something that Cubs fans never do.

kevingrt
06-25-2007, 10:30 PM
Just heard about it on ABC, friggin ridiculous.

mark2olson
06-25-2007, 10:30 PM
Some cubs fans do this, but remember what white sox fans did a few years ago...

Are you really George Knue?

brewers5
06-25-2007, 10:30 PM
Celebrate a World Series win?

That's something that Cubs fans never do.
Oh good one!!!:rolleyes:
No, when they attacked the base coach!

Hitmen77
06-25-2007, 10:30 PM
Some cubs fans do this, but remember what white sox fans did a few years ago...

The problem is that when two idiots do it at a Sox game 5 years ago no one lets the story drop EVER and acts like Sox fans do this all the time.

When Cub fans do this, or hurl racial slurs at their players, or throw trash on the field - the story gets buried and morons like you say oh well, "some Cub fans do this".

manders_01
06-25-2007, 10:32 PM
Alright Fuentes - close this out and manders_01 will have a good baseball day!

oeo
06-25-2007, 10:32 PM
Oh good one!!!:rolleyes:
No, when they attacked the base coach!

Why is a Brewers fan here, first of all. Secondly...why are you defending the Flubs? Especially their fans.

Viva Medias B's
06-25-2007, 10:32 PM
It looks like bad bullpenitis is contageous, and the Cubs were evidently infected by you-know-who this past weekend.

tebman
06-25-2007, 10:33 PM
Are you really George Knue?

No, that's George's intern.

:knue
"Quick! Brewers5, get over to that rowdy White Sox board and remind them that The Tribune runs this town, and any alleged incidents at a Cub game only happen if we say they happened."

hose
06-25-2007, 10:33 PM
I don't think Bobby Howry is the guy you want to go toe to toe with.:o:

Viva Medias B's
06-25-2007, 10:33 PM
Why is a Brewers fan here, first of all. Secondly...why are you defending the Flubs? Especially their fans.

Like most Cardinal fans, I would imagine that most Brewer fans would be anti-Cub allies of ours. Of course, when Milwaukee was in the AL, the Brewers were a big rival of ours.

russ99
06-25-2007, 10:34 PM
Sox win, nutjob runs onto the field at Wrigley... a perfect day!

Nice takedown by the Cub security guy! It's like he came out of nowhere.

brewers5
06-25-2007, 10:34 PM
Why is a Brewers fan here, first of all. Secondly...why are you defending the Flubs? Especially their fans.
Because I live in Chicago, go to games wearing brewers stuff, and no one treats me badly.

CHISOXFAN13
06-25-2007, 10:36 PM
Oh good one!!!:rolleyes:
No, when they attacked the base coach!

I'm going to the Brewers game to cheer for my second favorite team tomorrow. Don't make me change my mind.

Do yourself a favor and walk away. You've made nine posts and everyone of them has shed the Sox in a negative light.

:dtroll:

kevingrt
06-25-2007, 10:37 PM
Because I live in Chicago, go to games wearing brewers stuff, and no one treats me badly.

The better question about Brewers5 is why is there not a "Banned" under his name yet?

chisoxmike
06-25-2007, 10:37 PM
I'm going to the Brewers game to cheer for my second favorite team tomorrow. Don't make me change my mind.

Do yourself a favor and walk away. You've made nine posts and everyone of them has shed the Sox in a negative light.

:dtroll:

He doesn't care. He's just an ******* with no life. **** him.

brewers5
06-25-2007, 10:37 PM
Sox win, nutjob runs onto the field at Wrigley... a perfect day!

Nice takedown by the Cub security guy! It's like he came out of nowhere.
Hey moron, they just swept you. It's not that big a day.

hose
06-25-2007, 10:37 PM
It's a diversion ploy by Brewers5 while Knue prepares a story on whatever he can dig up about the southside.

Dan the Man
06-25-2007, 10:38 PM
Hey moron, they just swept you. It's not that big a day.
Go away. The Brewers are great, go root for them.

mark2olson
06-25-2007, 10:39 PM
No, that's George's intern.

:knue
"Quick! Brewers5, get over to that rowdy White Sox board and remind them that The Tribune runs this town, and any alleged incidents at a Cub game only happen if we say they happened."

:lol:

pagansoxfan
06-25-2007, 10:39 PM
gee, i wonder if our friends at the cubune will even mention anything.

kevingrt
06-25-2007, 10:40 PM
This game is hilarious.

russ99
06-25-2007, 10:41 PM
Hey moron, they just swept you. It's not that big a day.

Clueless. Even a Cub fan would have gotten that joke.

There has to be a Brewers board you can hang at instead of trolling here.

chisoxmike
06-25-2007, 10:41 PM
Damn It!!! ****! ****! ****!

oeo
06-25-2007, 10:42 PM
Wow...now I have to hear about this? Kaz Matsui blows.

kevingrt
06-25-2007, 10:42 PM
Wow. I think I may have to move.

Viva Medias B's
06-25-2007, 10:42 PM
:thud:

Jesus Christ! Looking at how they celebrated that win, I don't even think we got that excited when we won some ballgame on October 26, 2005! The golden horseshoe is definitely stuck far up the Cubs' collective rear end.

Droso5
06-25-2007, 10:42 PM
Well good for you brewers5! I'm glad you get treated well, but on here, if you act like a complete moron you will be treated like the dunce-cap wearing fool that you are. Hope this helps!

Let the countdown begin!

manders_01
06-25-2007, 10:42 PM
Errrrr - I hate Soriano!

JB98
06-25-2007, 10:43 PM
Too bad the Cubs pulled that one out. The fans are celebrating like they won the World Series. :rolleyes:

oeo
06-25-2007, 10:43 PM
Wow. I think I may have to move.

They'll finish in third...nothing to worry about.

oeo
06-25-2007, 10:43 PM
Errrrr - I hate Soriano!

I'm surprised he actually did something with runners on.

thomas35forever
06-25-2007, 10:44 PM
You'd think the Flubs just won the World Series. Those fans are way too happy.

kevingrt
06-25-2007, 10:44 PM
Too bad the Cubs pulled that one out. The fans are celebrating like they won the World Series. :rolleyes:

The team did too. But what an incredible win.

chisoxmike
06-25-2007, 10:44 PM
****!

oeo
06-25-2007, 10:44 PM
You'd think the Flubs just won the World Series. Those fans are way too happy.

Nope, they won the World Series yesterday.

brewers5
06-25-2007, 10:44 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHA!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't ****ing care the Cubs won that was hilarious to see you guys get your hopes up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oeo
06-25-2007, 10:45 PM
The team did too. But what an incredible win.

Incredible? They gave up 6 runs in the 9th to go down by 1, got runners on by a couple of bloop singles and an error continued the game. Yes, incredible.

JB98
06-25-2007, 10:46 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHA!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't ****ing care the Cubs won that was hilarious to see you guys get your hopes up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're a Brewers fan. You should be upset the Cubs won. They're the team chasing you in the division.

You really are embarrassing yourself.

Viva Medias B's
06-25-2007, 10:46 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHA!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't ****ing care the Cubs won that was hilarious to see you guys get your hopes up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can someone please ban this drillrod? If I'm a Brewers fan, I would be saying "[BLEEP]!!! [Bleeping] Colorado chokes and costs us a chance to go 8 up on the Cubs!"

:angry::angry::angry::angry::angry:

thomas35forever
06-25-2007, 10:47 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHA!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't ****ing care the Cubs won that was hilarious to see you guys get your hopes up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't you say we care more about the Cubs losing than the Sox winning. We damn well don't, so shut your trap.
:dtroll:

VenturaFan23
06-25-2007, 10:47 PM
Great, Cubs won so now that incident with that moron who ran onto the field never happened.

manders_01
06-25-2007, 10:48 PM
I'm surprised he actually did something with runners on.

With the way I saw him swing the bat tonight - me too!

thomas35forever
06-25-2007, 10:50 PM
Brewers5 - HE GONE!!

Brian26
06-25-2007, 10:50 PM
Can someone please ban this drillrod?

Dump looks to be the only mod on right now. Maybe hit the "Report this post" icon in the top right corner. There's a lot going on now with the Benoit story and some other threads, so he might not have noticed this yet.

Viva Medias B's
06-25-2007, 10:51 PM
Great, Cubs won so now that incident with that moron who ran onto the field never happened.

You got that right.

pagansoxfan
06-25-2007, 10:51 PM
i hear brewers is really ross the intern, doing an investigative piece on wsi, as part of jay leno's show.

chisoxmike
06-25-2007, 10:52 PM
Yep! Nothing About The Fan Attacking Howry On Comcast Sports Net!

Viva Medias B's
06-25-2007, 10:52 PM
Dump looks to be the only mod on right now. Maybe hit the "Report this post" icon in the top right corner. There's a lot going on now with the Benoit story and some other threads, so he might not have noticed this yet.

For some reason, that is not there anymore on my screen.

oeo
06-25-2007, 10:53 PM
i hear brewers is really ross the intern, doing an investigative piece on wsi, as part of jay leno's show.

http://www.petitionspot.com/uploads/32384-Ross%20the%20Intern.jpg
"OH SHUT UPPP!"

HotelWhiteSox
06-25-2007, 10:53 PM
Chicagosports.com should be interesting, this year they put up pictures of some guy who ran on the field on the front page instead of actual pictures of the game. When someone ran on the field at that Cubs game with the brawl a pic was nowhere to be found, we'll see how this is covered.

HotelWhiteSox
06-25-2007, 10:54 PM
For some reason, that is not there anymore on my screen.

It's that triangle sign in the upper right

DrCrawdad
06-25-2007, 10:57 PM
You're a Brewers fan. You should be upset the Cubs won. They're the team chasing you in the division.

You really are embarrassing yourself.

Cubbie fans love to play dress-up and make believe. Brewers5 is a Cubbie fan and NOT a true Brewers fan.

Viva Medias B's
06-25-2007, 11:01 PM
It's that triangle sign in the upper right

I don't know why, but I don't have that triangle anymore. All I have is the post number and that's it.

DrCrawdad
06-25-2007, 11:11 PM
Chicagosports.com should be interesting, this year they put up pictures of some guy who ran on the field on the front page instead of actual pictures of the game.



The Cubune also this season had a picture of some female who ran onto the field at The Cell.

But here's what to expect tomorrow...

:giantsnail

manders_01
06-25-2007, 11:14 PM
I bet it's on our news. The sportscaster on the station I watch loves this kind of stuff. And he not biased towards who the popular teams are.

chisoxmike
06-25-2007, 11:14 PM
Nothing about the fan on Baseball Tonight.

Viva Medias B's
06-25-2007, 11:22 PM
Comcast just showed a highlight of the fan going after Howry, but it was a minor clip with the rest of the game highlights.

Let's say that a Sox game went like this, with Matt Thornton and Bobby Jenks blowing an 8-3 lead to Kansas City. After Mike Sweeney takes Jenks deep to put the Royals ahead 9-8, a fan runs onto the field going after Jenks. Sox Security tackles him before he reaches Jenks. The White Sox go on to win the game 10-9 with Scott Podsednik's two-run single.

You can bet your sweet bippy that the media would focus on the fan going after Jenks and not give a damn about the win. It would be terrible with the drillrods, from Mariotti on down, proclaiming U.S. Cellular Field and Bridgeport the most dangerous area in America.

Now on the North Side, the media will predictably show their true colors and prove to us how Cubbie-loving they really are.

comerica
06-25-2007, 11:23 PM
The fan charging the field is mentioned in the article currently up on the tribune's site, though that article is just an AP piece, not a tribune original.

After Tulowitzki's homer, a fan charged at Howry. The fan was just a few feet from the mound before security guards tackled him.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-070625cubsgamer,1,7974973.story?coll=chi-sportstop-hed

DumpJerry
06-25-2007, 11:24 PM
gee, i wonder if our friends at the cubune will even mention anything.
I wonder if you look at thread titles.

Sorry, this was too easy to pass up.

Merged.

manders_01
06-25-2007, 11:30 PM
I bet it's on our news. The sportscaster on the station I watch loves this kind of stuff. And he not biased towards who the popular teams are.

Not the regular guy - no mention. I'm actually surprised that the fill-in made no mention either.

comerica
06-25-2007, 11:35 PM
The denver post mentions it.
http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_6228650

TDog
06-25-2007, 11:57 PM
The sad thing is, we should have lit Howry up the past two games and couldn't do it. :(:

Back on topic...I wish I would have seen this.

Because Howry isn't effective on his third straight day coming out of the bullpen in the ninth inning, the Sox should have lit him up the first two?

Whatever.

I always heard Cubs fans talking about how everyone wants to play for th Cubs. I guess tonight's game shows why.

UserNameBlank
06-26-2007, 12:24 AM
Some cubs fans do this, but remember what white sox fans did a few years ago...
Why are you such a ****?

soxfanreggie
06-26-2007, 12:45 AM
I really don't think you can describe those two as "White Sox fans". This is the 3rd major event like this in the past decade or so for the Cubs. The Myers incident, Dodgers incident, and now this. I don't think any Cubs fan has a right to drag up what happened here.

WhiteSox5187
06-26-2007, 01:01 AM
Does anyone remember when that guy ran on the field at Wrigley to beat up Randy Myers?? This is like the fifth time that a fan has ran onto the field at Wrigley to beat up a player within the past five years...there was the instance with the Dodgers, Randy Myers, this, a guy ran out on the field at Wrigley and started throwing bits of cork at Sosa in 2004...in 2004 against the Padres some guy ran up to LaTroy Hawkins and started screaming at him before he was dragged away...of course, you'll never read these stories in the papers because the Cubs, after all, ahve the best fans in baseball.

Nellie_Fox
06-26-2007, 01:05 AM
Does anyone remember when that guy ran on the field at Wrigley to beat up Randy Myers?? This is like the fifth time that a fan has ran onto the field at Wrigley to beat up a player within the past five years...there was the instance with the Dodgers, Randy Myers, this, a guy ran out on the field at Wrigley and started throwing bits of cork at Sosa in 2004...in 2004 against the Padres some guy ran up to LaTroy Hawkins and started screaming at him before he was dragged away...of course, you'll never read these stories in the papers because the Cubs, after all, ahve the best fans in baseball.Your point is well taken, but the Randy Myers incident was twelve years ago, not five.

WhiteSox5187
06-26-2007, 03:48 AM
Your point is well taken, but the Randy Myers incident was twelve years ago, not five.
Ah, I meant to say "in the past ten years" but even THAT would be incorrect. Well then in the past FIFTEEN years more people have run onto Wrigley to attack players than have run on to Comiskey, but you would never know that by reading the papers.

QCIASOXFAN
06-26-2007, 03:53 AM
The Cubs won the Series coming outta the AP in Iowa.:wink:

VenturaFan23
06-26-2007, 05:41 AM
Does anyone remember when that guy ran on the field at Wrigley to beat up Randy Myers?? This is like the fifth time that a fan has ran onto the field at Wrigley to beat up a player within the past five years...there was the instance with the Dodgers, Randy Myers, this, a guy ran out on the field at Wrigley and started throwing bits of cork at Sosa in 2004...in 2004 against the Padres some guy ran up to LaTroy Hawkins and started screaming at him before he was dragged away...of course, you'll never read these stories in the papers because the Cubs, after all, ahve the best fans in baseball.

http://img.search.com/thumb/d/d1/Chrisberman.jpg/180px-Chrisberman.jpg
"See, I told you Cubs fans have more passion!"

santo=dorf
06-26-2007, 06:22 AM
Fan that went after Howry: http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2007-06/30770204.jpg
Blackhawks' first pick: http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2007-06/30766958.jpg

Hmmmmmm

itsnotrequired
06-26-2007, 07:08 AM
Fan that went after Howry: http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2007-06/30770204.jpg
Blackhawks' first pick: http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2007-06/30766958.jpg

Hmmmmmm

:rolling:

DumpJerry
06-26-2007, 07:12 AM
Fan that went after Howry: http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2007-06/30770204.jpg
Blackhawks' first pick: http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2007-06/30766958.jpg

Hmmmmmm
He was just trying to get himself some television time. Lord knows he won't get any TV time during a Blackhawks' game.

Viva Medias B's
06-26-2007, 07:16 AM
Fan that went after Howry: http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2007-06/30770204.jpg
Blackhawks' first pick: http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2007-06/30766958.jpg

Hmmmmmm

[Gene Honda, or Harvey Wittenberg back in the day]Blackhawk Penalty, No. 88, Patrick Kane, five minutes for fighting, and a game misconduct.[/Gene Honda, or Harvey Wittenberg back in the day].

Meanwhile, leave it to the good old Tribune to reference the White Sox incidents in this:

The fan, who was not identified, was charged with illegal conduct in a sports facility, a new state law which the White Sox lobbied for after a pair of ugly fan-related incidents involving trespassing fans at U.S. Cellular Field.

Furthermore, when those incidents occurred on our field, I believe the Tribune was quick to identify them by the following morning. By 8:00 a.m. that morning, William Ligue was a household name.

SaltyPretzel
06-26-2007, 07:24 AM
The guy was charged with illegal conduct in a sports facility. He's looking at a pretty severe penalty.

Bucky F. Dent
06-26-2007, 07:31 AM
Fan that went after Howry: http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2007-06/30770204.jpg
Blackhawks' first pick: http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2007-06/30766958.jpg

Hmmmmmm


:D: Happy to see that the kid is willing to play a physical game. Not so happy w/ his choice in baseball teams, however.

itsnotrequired
06-26-2007, 07:32 AM
Furthermore, when those incidents occurred on our field, I believe the Tribune was quick to identify them by the following morning. By 8:00 a.m. that morning, William Ligue was a household name.

To be fair, on-field personel were physically assulted by those that jumped onto the field at The Cell. This guy never reached Howry so it isn't quite the same. Had he reached Howry and some punches been thrown, his name would be all over the national news.

Viva Medias B's
06-26-2007, 07:53 AM
To be fair, on-field personel were physically assulted by those that jumped onto the field at The Cell. This guy never reached Howry so it isn't quite the same. Had he reached Howry and some punches been thrown, his name would be all over the national news.

True, but that does not mean this perp cannot be identified provided he is not a minor which does not appear to be the case.

SoxandtheCityTee
06-26-2007, 08:06 AM
Wow, that is some choke hold. Looks like he's sobering up instantaneously.

The Cubune will ID him eventually -- first they have to try to find out if he's really a Sox fan who defected because of the sweep over the weekend.

RedHeadPaleHoser
06-26-2007, 08:09 AM
Wow, that is some choke hold. Looks like he's sobering up instantaneously.

The Cubune will ID him eventually -- first they have to try to find out if he's really a Sox fan who defected because of the sweep over the weekend.

I'm awaiting the B & W photos to come out, so the pinstripes in his uni top don't look so blue....then we'll see what they say.

I bet that this guy's name gets buried tomorrow in a metro section report.

fusillirob1983
06-26-2007, 08:13 AM
The Trib article talks about how the security guard is a great big hero by stopping the guy from yelling and that the Friendly Confines remain friendly.

Shocking

Hitmen77
06-26-2007, 08:23 AM
Does anyone remember when that guy ran on the field at Wrigley to beat up Randy Myers?? This is like the fifth time that a fan has ran onto the field at Wrigley to beat up a player within the past five years...there was the instance with the Dodgers, Randy Myers, this, a guy ran out on the field at Wrigley and started throwing bits of cork at Sosa in 2004...in 2004 against the Padres some guy ran up to LaTroy Hawkins and started screaming at him before he was dragged away...of course, you'll never read these stories in the papers because the Cubs, after all, ahve the best fans in baseball.

Nope, those things never happened. Brawl with fans against Dodgers bullpen? What are you talking about? No one remembers because the press will never mention it again. People yelling racial slurs at players or throwing trash on the field at Wrigley - it's all due to Sox fans.

On the other hand, after 5 years, it's still LIGUE LIGUE LIGUE LIGUE LIGUE LIGUE according to the media and Cub fans.

Fenway
06-26-2007, 08:23 AM
Darn I missed this. I suffered thru Sevard and Kane singing TMOTTB

He was barefoot????

itsnotrequired
06-26-2007, 08:27 AM
Darn I missed this. I suffered thru Sevard and Kane singing TMOTTB

He was barefoot????

Hey, how often can you walk on the grass of a MLB field? Might as well make the most of it.

When I went to the Grinder Bash at The Cell last year, the first thing I did when I got on the outfield grass was take off my shoes and socks. Heaven.

The Immigrant
06-26-2007, 08:29 AM
He was barefoot????

Can you even imagine the Tribune headlines if a barefoot Sox fan ran on the field? OMFG.

WizardsofOzzie
06-26-2007, 08:29 AM
YOUTUBE! :bandance::bandance:

iyvzVHkzeAc

cws05champ
06-26-2007, 08:40 AM
How it will appear in the print edition of the Tribune:

RedHeadPaleHoser
06-26-2007, 08:59 AM
How it will appear in the print edition of the Tribune:

I honestly was expecting some type of airbrushing of the Cub logo off his shirt.

itsnotrequired
06-26-2007, 09:01 AM
YOUTUBE! :bandance::bandance:

Howry's stance is classic.

southside rocks
06-26-2007, 09:43 AM
Deadspin has a great treatment of this incident -- the comments alone are hilarious.
http://deadspin.com/sports/daily-closer/paris-hilton-gets-out-of-jail-this-guy-goes-in--its-the-circle-of-liiiffe--272234.php

kevingrt
06-26-2007, 09:46 AM
That laydown by the security officer was a great hit. Even Pinella addressed it in his postgame press conference.

Gammons Peter
06-26-2007, 09:53 AM
Bud Light presents real American heroes.
(sing along..real American heros)

Today we salute you, Mr. giant douche bag Cub fan.
( Mr Douche-bag cubfan! )

Whether giving your beloved stadium a much deserved garbage shower or attacking
your own pitcher, you always go the extra mile.
( I love the friendly confines )

Raise up your giant tower of stacked empty beer cups and high five your fraternity brothers
before running out on the field and making a complete jackass out of yourself.
( hey bro, canya hold my beer)

Randy Myers has retired and Rod Beck is dead but that doesn't stop you, Mr. giant douche bag Cub fan, from seeking
out the latest gas can closer to disappoint you.
( is it too late to be a Sox Fan? )

The Immigrant
06-26-2007, 09:55 AM
Bud Light presents real American heroes.

Good work, Peter.

:thumbsup:

soltrain21
06-26-2007, 10:03 AM
They didn't show the fan on Sportscenter. Bull****.

WizardsofOzzie
06-26-2007, 10:04 AM
They didn't show the fan on Sportscenter. Bull****.
You're surprised?

soltrain21
06-26-2007, 10:05 AM
You're surprised?


Well, no...but I remember the huge deal they made when it happened with the Sox.

kevingrt
06-26-2007, 10:10 AM
Bud Light presents real American heroes.
(sing along..real American heros)

Today we salute you, Mr. giant douche bag Cub fan.
( Mr Douche-bag cubfan! )

Whether giving your beloved stadium a much deserved garbage shower or attacking
your own pitcher, you always go the extra mile.
( I love the friendly confines )

Raise up your giant tower of stacked empty beer cups and high five your fraternity brothers
before running out on the field and making a complete jackass out of yourself.
( hey bro, canya hold my beer)

Randy Myers has retired and Rod Beck is dead but that doesn't stop you, Mr. giant douche bag Cub fan, from seeking
out the latest gas can closer to disappoint you.
( is it too late to be a Sox Fan? )

Epic Mr. Gammons

WizardsofOzzie
06-26-2007, 10:11 AM
Well, no...but I remember the huge deal they made when it happened with the Sox.
But these are the best fans on earth...no story here :rolleyes:

jenn2080
06-26-2007, 10:11 AM
I heard the Cubs announcer say something like I cannot believe what is happening, we have such good fans here. I wanted to vomit. The same good fans that littered the field 2 times last season and once this season. *****.

areilly
06-26-2007, 10:30 AM
That laydown by the security officer was a great hit. Even Pinella addressed it in his postgame press conference.

That's the first thing I thought as welll.

areilly
06-26-2007, 10:37 AM
Well, no...but I remember the huge deal they made when it happened with the Sox.

But these are the best fans on earth...no story here :rolleyes:

But Sox fans are the "class" of Chicago baseball fans, remember? Sox fans are pure humility and all civility (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=89491), all the time (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=89435). Stories of borderline hooliganism at USCF are all blatant lies and pure fabrication.

Honestly people, there are jackass fans on both sides of this town. Let it go.

WizardsofOzzie
06-26-2007, 10:47 AM
But Sox fans are the "class" of Chicago baseball fans, remember? Sox fans are pure humility and all civility (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=89491), all the time (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=89435). Stories of borderline hooliganism at USCF are all blatant lies and pure fabrication.

Honestly people, there are jackass fans on both sides of this town. Let it go.
I never said there wasn't but it's bull**** that when it's our side of town it's front page news to this day but if it's the other side it's hardly mentioned

areilly
06-26-2007, 10:55 AM
I never said there wasn't but it's bull**** that when it's our side of town it's front page news to this day but if it's the other side it's hardly mentioned

I don't have the print edition but the guy from last night is the third lead story on the Trib's website (perp's name and all). Also, as pointed out, the guy never made it to Howry. No one was hurt save for Cub jackass himself; I seem to recall both the ump and the KC coach getting hit at USCF. In two separate incidents.

Where news is concerned, actual injury > possible injury. If that's media bias then you can call me biased. I'm not defending the Tribsters here but you have to at least wait for identical situations to make a clean comparison.

Law11
06-26-2007, 11:04 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-070626cub-fanjun26,1,6419077.story?coll=chi-news-hed

Fenway
06-26-2007, 11:06 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-070626cub-fanjun26,1,6419077.story?coll=chi-news-hed
NESN was running it last night and this morning on SportsDesk

mrfourni
06-26-2007, 11:08 AM
I don't have the print edition but the guy from last night is the third lead story on the Trib's website (perp's name and all). Also, as pointed out, the guy never made it to Howry. No one was hurt save for Cub jackass himself; I seem to recall both the ump and the KC coach getting hit at USCF. In two separate incidents.

Where news is concerned, actual injury > possible injury. If that's media bias then you can call me biased. I'm not defending the Tribsters here but you have to at least wait for identical situations to make a clean comparison.


I seem to recall that the Cubs fan who attacked the ump at Comiskey was so tanked from being at Wrigley earlier, he tried to tackle the Ump (who happened to be an ex-marine) and barely touched him.

tebman
06-26-2007, 11:10 AM
I don't have the print edition but the guy from last night is the third lead story on the Trib's website (perp's name and all). Also, as pointed out, the guy never made it to Howry. No one was hurt save for Cub jackass himself; I seem to recall both the ump and the KC coach getting hit at USCF. In two separate incidents.

Where news is concerned, actual injury > possible injury. If that's media bias then you can call me biased. I'm not defending the Tribsters here but you have to at least wait for identical situations to make a clean comparison.
You're right about the reporting details and I agree that assault and battery is a bigger story than an unsuccessful assault. But my peeve, which I suspect is similar to many posters here, is the chirpy nature of the coverage of the Cubs relative to that of the Sox. This is no accident, of course. Since WGN, WGN-TV, CLTV, and the various newspapers are all in the same corporate boat with the Cubs there's been a soft-pedaling of "unpleasant" news about the "Wrigley Field Experience" for years.

Coverage (which the Tribune leads, since it's the biggest news source in town) tends to sound like "oh those darn kids!" when something ugly happens at a Cub game. Conversely, when something ugly happens at or near a Sox game, it's ominous, it's dark, it's criminal.

That's my squawk about these incidents. Our debates with George Knue on this topic last year spelled out the particulars, but in general I don't like my Sox-fan brethren to be painted as neanderthals while the trixies and fratboys at the Cub games are portrayed as playful and impish.

Law11
06-26-2007, 11:11 AM
Funny I watched espn last night and they made no mention of it during the highlights.. Couldnt stay up for baseball tonight.. maybe it was on there.

eriqjaffe
06-26-2007, 11:22 AM
Of course, a full third of that article goes into unnecessary detail about the Ligue and Dybas incidents. Mentioning the incidents is fine, since it's relevant to the actual story, but the last three paragraphs are completely unneeded.

Lip Man 1
06-26-2007, 11:57 AM
The Tribune web site does mention it in the post game story and there is a picture that you can click on off to the right. Steve Rosenbloom also talks about it.

However I did not see word one about this in any of the Cub story on the Sun Times web site (Toni Gianitti) or the Daily Southtown site (Jeff Vorva).

Also the Tribune does not mention Randy Myers or the Dodgers bullpen fiasco. They do mention the two Sox incidents.

Lip

Fenway
06-26-2007, 12:03 PM
The Tribune web site does mention it in the post game story and there is a picture that you can click on off to the right. Steve Rosenbloom also talks about it.

However I did not see word one about this in any of the Cub story on the Sun Times web site (Toni Gianitti) or the Daily Southtown site (Jeff Vorva).

Also the Tribune does not mention Randy Myers or the Dodgers bullpen fiasco. They do mention the two Sox incidents.

Lip

ABC7 is a little better



The misdemeanor charge is a new state law the White Sox lobbied for after a series of incidents involving trespassing fans at U.S. Cellular Field. A similar incident occurred for the Cubs in 1995 when fan, John Murray, attacked Cubs closer Randy Myers in September.


http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=sports&id=5423337

CubKilla
06-26-2007, 12:11 PM
Well, no...but I remember the huge deal they made when it happened with the Sox.

Not only that, but right after it happened, they broke into a "Special Report" during Baseball Tonight and reported on it like it was the Kennedy Assassination.

Never made any mention though that the two assailants that night were Cub fans that had been at the Cubs game earlier that day.

RedHeadPaleHoser
06-26-2007, 12:14 PM
Not only that, but right after it happened, they broke into a "Special Report" during Baseball Tonight and reported on it like it was the Kennedy Assassination.

Never made any mention though that the two assailants that night were Cub fans that had been at the Cubs game earlier that day.

Sssshhh......why bother with the truth? No one needs to know there's baseball outside of Boston and New York, either.

AnkleSox
06-26-2007, 12:27 PM
brewers5 has to have been a cubs fan in disguise. i wonder if his mom took his computer away yet.

Lip Man 1
06-26-2007, 12:46 PM
The WGN News at Noon just showed the footage.

Lip

Hitmen77
06-26-2007, 12:54 PM
Here's the Cubune's latest article on the incident last night. The last 1/3 of the article is devoted to recalling the Ligue and Dybas incidences.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-070626cub-fanjun26,1,6419077.story?coll=chi-news-hed

DaveIsHere
06-26-2007, 01:17 PM
Here's the Cubune's latest article on the incident last night. The last 1/3 of the article is devoted to recalling the Ligue and Dybas incidences.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-070626cub-fanjun26,1,6419077.story?coll=chi-news-hed


What did you expect?

comerica
06-26-2007, 02:03 PM
Speaking as a baseball fan outside the chicago area, rest assured that far from being covered up and buried, the occasional bad behavior of cubs fans is pretty much common knowledge. Sure the white sox incident got more coverage, but then the outcome of that was a far bigger story than this one.

Words that we'd use here to describe cub fans would be "dedicated" and "loyal", but certainly not "well behaved".

TDog
06-26-2007, 03:21 PM
Speaking as a baseball fan outside the chicago area, rest assured that far from being covered up and buried, the occasional bad behavior of cubs fans is pretty much common knowledge. Sure the white sox incident got more coverage, but then the outcome of that was a far bigger story than this one.

Words that we'd use here to describe cub fans would be "dedicated" and "loyal", but certainly not "well behaved".

I don't know about ESPN because I haven't watched it in more than a decade, and I haven't seen WGN or any Chicago television in four years. But from what I've otherwise seen outside of Chicago, I believe the incident is getting the play it deserves. It certainly isn't as big a story as a fan running out and beating up the opposing third-base coach. The fan in Wrigley at least, was reacting to what was going on in the game. The incident in the incident in the Cell was a random act of violence.

StillMissOzzie
06-26-2007, 09:19 PM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-070626cub-fanjun26,1,6419077.story?coll=chi-news-hed

As others have pointed out, the Tribune used yet another opportunity to dredge up the names Dybas and Ligue. Interestingly enough, I heard a radio replay of this incident on WSCR earlier today. Len or Bob claimed that these things are now felonies, but the article mentions it as a misdemeanor instead. So were the announcers wrong, or is maybe the Tribune trying to soft-pedal the crime since it happened in the Friendly Confines? I know we have some lawyers in the house...

SMO
:?:

JB98
06-26-2007, 09:54 PM
The Tribune web site does mention it in the post game story and there is a picture that you can click on off to the right. Steve Rosenbloom also talks about it.

However I did not see word one about this in any of the Cub story on the Sun Times web site (Toni Gianitti) or the Daily Southtown site (Jeff Vorva).

Also the Tribune does not mention Randy Myers or the Dodgers bullpen fiasco. They do mention the two Sox incidents.

Lip

In defense of Vorva, he sent a second story with quotes from Howry about the incident. I couldn't run it in my paper (Aurora) because it was after deadline.

His initial story did reference the incident in the second paragraph.

TDog
06-26-2007, 10:01 PM
As others have pointed out, the Tribune used yet another opportunity to dredge up the names Dybas and Ligue. Interestingly enough, I heard a radio replay of this incident on WSCR earlier today. Len or Bob claimed that these things are now felonies, but the article mentions it as a misdemeanor instead. So were the announcers wrong, or is maybe the Tribune trying to soft-pedal the crime since it happened in the Friendly Confines? I know we have some lawyers in the house...

SMO
:?:

I'm not a lawyer, although I've studied law. I've never lived in Illinois, either, but the question intrigues me. I found the following definition of aggravated assault among the subsections of in the Illinois Criminal Code.

(17) Knows the individual assaulted to be a sports
official or coach at any level of competition and the act causing the assault to the sports official or coach occurred within an athletic facility or an indoor or outdoor playing field or within the immediate vicinity of the athletic facility or an indoor or outdoor playing field at which the sports official or coach was an active participant in the athletic contest held at the athletic facility. For the purposes of this paragraph (17), "sports official" means a person at an athletic contest who enforces the rules of the contest, such as an umpire or referee; and "coach" means a person recognized as a coach by the sanctioning authority that conducted the athletic contest.

I assumed aggravated assault was a felony, but section (17) is defined as a Class A misdemeanor, unless a firearm is used. And I don't see players getting the same protection under the law that coaches and rules enforcers do. The assault statute is long and involved, and I was guessing that a prosecutor could charge the crime as a misdemeanor even if the crime met the elements of a felony. I'm sure it could be charged as a felony if the assailant assaulted a pitcher with a deadly weapon, and maybe I'm missing some special felony trespass code, but I don't see anything that would make charging running out of the stands to charge the pitchers mound a felony.

If I was talking on the radio, I would try to know what I was talking about. I'm not sure that's the case in the world of sports radio.

HotelWhiteSox
06-26-2007, 10:22 PM
Yesterday I didn't see ESPN show or mention the fan, but now tonight, before tonight's highlights, the anchor said 'players and umpires only on the field tonight'. Then while showing the groundscrew working on the rain, he said '
fans that go on the field should be forced to help out with that'. So first they don't show it but now are taking digs at it

dllrbll7
06-26-2007, 11:03 PM
Someone has posted it on youtube....you have to listen to his own comentary on it though. Don't think I can link you to it though....

wsoxgalkelly
06-26-2007, 11:32 PM
All I have to say is that if this would have happened on the south side, it would be all over the news full of the white sox woes and how fans continue to storm the field. It happened on the north side, so it will go virtually, unnoticed.:dtroll:

Viva Medias B's
06-27-2007, 07:12 AM
I heard on NBC 5 this morning that had Brent Kowalkoski actually made contact with Howry, he would have been charged with a felony. Because he was stopped short of the mound, he is only charged with a misdemeanor.

Meanwhile, because of what happened at Wrigley Field Monday night, Terry Boers said yesterday afternoon that Cub fans have no room now to make fun of us over incidents at our ballpark. Mike North and Fred Huebner also said yesterday that had the Kowalkoski incident occurred at USCF, it would have gotten much more negative play.

itsnotrequired
06-27-2007, 07:14 AM
I'm not a lawyer, although I've studied law. I've never lived in Illinois, either, but the question intrigues me. I found the following definition of aggravated assault among the subsections of in the Illinois Criminal Code.

(17) Knows the individual assaulted to be a sports
official or coach at any level of competition and the act causing the assault to the sports official or coach occurred within an athletic facility or an indoor or outdoor playing field or within the immediate vicinity of the athletic facility or an indoor or outdoor playing field at which the sports official or coach was an active participant in the athletic contest held at the athletic facility. For the purposes of this paragraph (17), "sports official" means a person at an athletic contest who enforces the rules of the contest, such as an umpire or referee; and "coach" means a person recognized as a coach by the sanctioning authority that conducted the athletic contest.

I assumed aggravated assault was a felony, but section (17) is defined as a Class A misdemeanor, unless a firearm is used. And I don't see players getting the same protection under the law that coaches and rules enforcers do. The assault statute is long and involved, and I was guessing that a prosecutor could charge the crime as a misdemeanor even if the crime met the elements of a felony. I'm sure it could be charged as a felony if the assailant assaulted a pitcher with a deadly weapon, and maybe I'm missing some special felony trespass code, but I don't see anything that would make charging running out of the stands to charge the pitchers mound a felony.

If I was talking on the radio, I would try to know what I was talking about. I'm not sure that's the case in the world of sports radio.

Scott Reifert mentions in his blog that it is a Class 4 felony. It was my understanding the crime was still a misdemeanor. A class 4 felony is the "weakest" felony (as I understand it) but it is still a felony, far worse than the "strongest" misdemeanor.

itsnotrequired
06-27-2007, 07:15 AM
All I have to say is that if this would have happened on the south side, it would be all over the news full of the white sox woes and how fans continue to storm the field. It happened on the north side, so it will go virtually, unnoticed.:dtroll:

It has been covered quite a bit. It was on the 9 o'clock Fox News last night and there is a full page photo of the guy getting arrested in the Red Eye this morning.

rocky biddle
06-27-2007, 07:43 AM
They actually showed it and said the guy's name on the WGN news this morning. I'm surprised, not that they showed it, but that they didn't also run video of the Ligue incident for "comparative purposes."

TDog
06-27-2007, 02:42 PM
Scott Reifert mentions in his blog that it is a Class 4 felony. It was my understanding the crime was still a misdemeanor. A class 4 felony is the "weakest" felony (as I understand it) but it is still a felony, far worse than the "strongest" misdemeanor.

Scott Reifert probably knows what he is talking about. But I can't find anything in the Illinois Criminal Code that defines the offense as an automatic felony. There are no felonies under city or county ordinance. Even if it could be charged as a felony, the charge would be at the discretion of the prosecutor.

If it is contact that determines whether the act is a felony, the crime in question would have to be an assault. I further found in in a more up-to-date version of the Illinois Criminal Code a provision that may apply in a subsection of 720 ILCS 5, defining a crime of aggravated assault if the assailant:

(9.5) Is, or the individual assaulted is, in or about
a publicly or privately owned sports or entertainment arena, stadium, community or convention hall, special event center, amusement facility, or a special event center in a public park during any 24-hour period when a professional sporting event, National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA)-sanctioned sporting event, United States Olympic Committee-sanctioned sporting event, or International Olympic Committee-sanctioned sporting event is taking place in this venue;

But that too is defined as a misdemeanor.

It is possible that police said the crime would be aggravated assault and a felony, or that the felony part was mistakenly understood by the media, which now interprets lack of contact to be what makes this offense a misdemeanor, because it obviously is a misdemeanor. Maybe people in sports who saw the passage of 9.5 by the Legislature (the decimal tells me this was likely in reaction to events at the Cell) didn't notice that this aggravated assault was defined as a misdemeanor.

It may be these people are right about the possible felony. If they are, it would be helpful if they could shore up their credibility with a code citation. When I was reporting crime, I always looked up the code references before I wrote about them.

miker
06-27-2007, 07:24 PM
Meanwhile, because of what happened at Wrigley Field Monday night, Terry Boers said yesterday afternoon that Cub fans have no room now to make fun of us over incidents at our ballpark. Mike North and Fred Huebner also said yesterday that had the Kowalkoski incident occurred at USCF, it would have gotten much more negative play.
This has been pushed so far under the rug, its almost like it didn't happen. However, the next time someone sneezes on the field at U.S. Cellular, it will get more coverage than Paris Hilton going to jail. That's just the way it is in this town.

That having been said, I was surprised that Howry had no clue what was going on until security tackled the drillrod. Chicago Bears...were you watching?

TommyJohn
06-27-2007, 08:23 PM
These incidents happen far more at Wrigley than they do at USCF. How many
incidents of fans rushing on the field or trashing the field with garbage are
there now? I would love to get an official count. Why? Because there is an
article by Greg the Weasel Couch last year that still sticks in my craw. After
the A.J.-Barrett brawl Couch expressed shock that no one in the stands
reacted in a crude, boorish manner, suggesting that the Cell was becoming
"Wrigleyfied." Of course, he had nothing to say after the fans trashed the
field after A.J.'s home run in Wrigley.

It just angers me that after all these incidents, after Bartman, the Dodger
bullpen and everything else, Cub fans and the media still look down on Sox
fans as lowlife trash.

TDog
06-27-2007, 09:37 PM
...

It just angers me that after all these incidents, after Bartman, the Dodger
bullpen and everything else, Cub fans and the media still look down on Sox
fans as lowlife trash.

In all fairness, you can't say Cubs fans look down on Sox fans as lowlife trash. If they did, there would be fans in Sox gear forcibly thrown onto Wrigley Field whenever a call goes against the Cubs.

MRM
06-27-2007, 09:42 PM
These incidents happen far more at Wrigley than they do at USCF. How many
incidents of fans rushing on the field or trashing the field with garbage are
there now? I would love to get an official count. Why? Because there is an
article by Greg the Weasel Couch last year that still sticks in my craw. After
the A.J.-Barrett brawl Couch expressed shock that no one in the stands
reacted in a crude, boorish manner, suggesting that the Cell was becoming
"Wrigleyfied." Of course, he had nothing to say after the fans trashed the
field after A.J.'s home run in Wrigley.

It just angers me that after all these incidents, after Bartman, the Dodger
bullpen and everything else, Cub fans and the media still look down on Sox
fans as lowlife trash.

Who cares? "Fans" on both sides of town have certainly shown a propensity to act stupid when intoxicated. Has nothing to do with who they root for. To try and brand a fan base on the actions of a few idiots is plain stupid, on both sides.

When the incident happened at the cell with the two guys running out to "attack" that (royals?) coach a few years ago, Sox fans immediately started yelling "they are Cubs fans". Who cares? Ones fandom does not in any way, shape, or form define ones character or actions.

Let's say it turns out that the wrestler who killed his family and then himself the other day was a Sox fan because of a friendship with AJ. Does that reflect poorly on Sox fans in general? OF COURSE IT DOESN'T.

The stereotypes on both sides are ridiculous as well...

No, Cubs fans AREN'T just a bunch of yuppies who go to the game to be seen and No, Sox fans AREN'T just a bunch of roughnecks that drink too much and start fights. These teams play EIGHT MILES from ea. other. Do you really think the fan base is THAT different? Where I live currently, it's more than 8 miles to get to civilization :D:

I should write an article (maybe a book) on the reasons behind the Sox fan/Cubs fan thing. My Grandfather and cousin both played in the Cubs minor league system, tho both were die hard Sox fans. Gramps was a very promising pitcher until WWII ended his (and alot of others) dream, yet he was a loyal Sox fan after his playing days ended. Why? Simple. That's the way he was brought up living on the South Side. When the Sox went to "sportsvision" I had to go to his house to see a game and he watched every one of them.

On moms side of the family my great-grandfather was a die hard Cubbies fan. He once gave me a ball signed by several members of the cubs from the 60's (when Gramps on the other side found out about this he was extremely pissed, how dare he try to turn my grandson into a Cubs fan?) Great gramps watched every single game on WGN until the day he died at age 90. If the Cubs were playing, he was watching. Why? He was brought up that way. He was 6 when the Sox-Cubs series happened and was 17 when the Sox won their last world series prior to 2005. At least he had a sense of Chicago baseball history.

Oh, also had an uncle who played minor league ball and me, myself, had a tryout with the Reds (didn't go well) in 1990. I come from a long lineage of ballplayers and fans of Chicago baseball (and hockey. Had another Uncle who played minor league hockey) I've heard all the arguments.

Basically, the more you drink, the more stupid you act when it comes to Chicago sports fandom. Other than that, both sides base fans tend to be knowledgable, thoughtful, and passionate people.

miker
06-28-2007, 02:36 PM
Oh, also had an uncle who played minor league ball and me, myself, had a tryout with the Reds (didn't go well) in 1990. I come from a long lineage of ballplayers and fans of Chicago baseball (and hockey. Had another Uncle who played minor league hockey) I've heard all the arguments.
At least in hockey, they have enough sense to put something between the fans and the ice...for the safety of both parties.