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tick53
06-10-2007, 09:14 AM
Who is your all time favorite taem in the Sox TV booth? I'm going with Harry and Jimmy. They entertained you when the team was playing badly (like they are currently doing).

nsolo
06-10-2007, 09:21 AM
hawk and wimpy.

tick53
06-10-2007, 09:28 AM
hawk and wimpy.

sorry nsolo, I was editing my poll while you were responding..thanks!

IndianWhiteSox
06-10-2007, 09:34 AM
Hawk and Wimpy sounded so good together. I still can't fathom why hawk chased wimpy out?

Noneck
06-10-2007, 09:38 AM
You forgot Bob Elson and Red Rush. "How sweet it is Robert" Oooopps That was radio

Brian26
06-10-2007, 09:39 AM
Where's the love for Frank Messer?

tick53
06-10-2007, 09:39 AM
Hawk and Wimpy sounded so good together. I still can't fathom why hawk chased wimpy out?

I have a gut feeling that Hawk may have had something to do with the ousting of Wimpy.

tick53
06-10-2007, 09:41 AM
Where's the love for Frank Messer?

If I would have been thinking, I would have included Frank or put "other" in my poll. The oversight is mine.:redface:

IndianWhiteSox
06-10-2007, 09:41 AM
I have a gut feeling that Hawk may have had something to do with the ousting of Wimpy.

Mod edit: You were wrong, and what you said is libelous. Take a week off.

tick53
06-10-2007, 09:42 AM
You forgot Bob Elson and Red Rush. "How sweet it is Robert" Oooopps That was radio

Bob and Red were great! Maybe I should have included radio guys too.

Noneck
06-10-2007, 09:43 AM
Hard to believe Harry and Jimmy are not running away with this. Maybe everyone is too young or all us old guys forgot due to senility.

tick53
06-10-2007, 09:44 AM
Libelous accusation deleted.

Hmmm..Like Johnny Carson would say: "I did not know that."

Brian26
06-10-2007, 09:47 AM
Libelous accusation deleted.

No. Not even close. Spread some more disinformation.

tick53
06-10-2007, 09:48 AM
Hard to believe Harry and Jimmy are not running away with this. Maybe everyone is too young or all us old guys forgot due to senility.

I agree Noneck. I'm glad that I'm old enough to have been around when those two were there. Piersall was no-holds-barred. One night the Sox brought up some minor league pitcher, I forgot who the guy was who got shelled by the Boston and Jimmy said, "Harry, I believe this young man should consider another line of work.":D:

IndianWhiteSox
06-10-2007, 09:49 AM
No. Not even close. Spread some more disinformation.

You're right because it's not like that was ever a reason like that that could have made Wimpy leave the broadcast booth.

OK then wise one, then tell us all what really happened?
:rolleyes:

Noneck
06-10-2007, 09:52 AM
Pre Cubs Harry was also no holds barred, The last of a breed they were, Then the shills came marching in.

tick53
06-10-2007, 09:57 AM
Pre Cubs Harry was also no holds barred, The last of a breed they were, Then the shills came marching in.

Amen to that bro!

Brian26
06-10-2007, 09:58 AM
You're right because it's not like that was ever a reason like that that could have made Wimpy leave the broadcast booth.

OK then wise one, then tell us all what really happened?
:rolleyes:


Major consensus is that Hawk was disgruntled with Paciorek's lack of preparation. Wimpy was approached about the subject and wasn't willing to change his style, so a change was made.

This topic has been discussed many times here over the past six years.

tick53
06-10-2007, 10:38 AM
So far it's a tie between Hawk and Wimpy vs Harry and Jimmy.

kevingrt
06-10-2007, 10:41 AM
Too young to remember anyone before Hawk and Wimpy so they are my favs

viagracat
06-10-2007, 10:50 AM
I liked the Double D/Hawk combo. Drysdale was the cool PBP guy and Hawk was the colorful...uh, color guy. :cool:

Nothing wrong with "telling it like it is", but Caray did Sox games before he was sent to charm school by the Cubs, and I thought Piersall was absolutely terrible. Who wants to hear a *****-and-moan session for nine innings every night? They were the polar opposite of Brickhouse, whose happy optimism and positive spin regardless of the facts was also annoying. Made me wish for an old pro like Ernie Harwell or Vin Scully in those days.

IndianWhiteSox
06-10-2007, 10:52 AM
Mod Edit: All references to the libelous accusation made by IndianWhiteSox are deleted.

chaerulez
06-10-2007, 11:23 AM
Mod edit: All references to the libelous accusations by IndianWhiteSox are deleted.

IndianWhiteSox
06-10-2007, 11:30 AM
Mod edit: Hell, for continuing this **** I'm changing the ban to a month.

Sox
06-10-2007, 11:41 AM
I remember the old duo of Harry Caray and Jimmy P. It was like listening to Oscar and Felix. And I agree that the Cubs organization did something to Harry. I don't know if it was charm school or the mandatory partial lobotomy thats required to be a Cub announcer.

skobabe8
06-10-2007, 12:28 PM
Mod edit: Hell, for continuing this **** I'm changing the ban to a month.

:D: Thats funny.

DickAllen72
06-10-2007, 12:32 PM
I'm going to guess that anyone who didn't vote for Caray/Piersall are too young to remember them.

Andy T Clown
06-10-2007, 12:52 PM
I remember the old duo of Harry Caray and Jimmy P. It was like listening to Oscar and Felix. And I agree that the Cubs organization did something to Harry. I don't know if it was charm school or the mandatory partial lobotomy thats required to be a Cub announcer.


I think it was the switch from Falstaff to Bud. :gulp:

ode to veeck
06-10-2007, 01:06 PM
I'm going to guess that anyone who didn't vote for Caray/Piersall are too young to remember them.

Absolutely, because it is no contest, Harry and Jimmy were the best baseball announcing team ever, let alone just for the Sox. Hawk and Wimpy? that don't even rate vs Brickhouse and any of his various sidekicks.

TDog
06-10-2007, 01:27 PM
I'm going to guess that anyone who didn't vote for Caray/Piersall are too young to remember them.

I am disappointed to see no mention of Bob Waller in the poll. The White Sox had a better broadcast team when Bob Waller was a part of it. He was smart, hip and spoke his mind with a pleasant voice. He didn't seem to consider himself the star. The telecasts were about the game and the team. He certainly wasn't a shill for the team, which probably led to his non-renewal, or wheatever ended his stay in Chicago, but he wasn't a jerk about it.

Harry Caray, in St. Louis, Oakand and the South Side, was not a cheerleader. He openly feuded with players (I don't know if he had time to get into much during the year that he spent in Oakland, but Curt Flood in his book about the players' problems with Caray. As soon as he got to Chicago, he got into it with Carlos May and Bill Melton.) His agreement with the Cubs called for him to be a company may in exchange for a larger salary than he had ever known.

Coupled with Jimmy Piersall, he was more entertaining than he had ever been before. It usually wasn't about baseball. For the first three months of the 1977, there was a running joke concerning flatulence. Some people complain today about Ed Farmer, but his play-by-play puts Piersall's to shame. I remember listening to Piersall's radio play-by-play in 1977 -- "There's a deep drive to left ... Garr gets it ... off the wall." Piersall was a jerk with a bad voice for radio. When he was punched by a White Sox coach, he deserved it.

I understand why people liked the Caray-Piersall team. It had nothing to do with baseball, though. The two considered themselves bigger than the game.

TheCommander
06-10-2007, 01:56 PM
Hard to believe Harry and Jimmy are not running away with this. Maybe everyone is too young or all us old guys forgot due to senility.

I went ahead and voted(for D.D. and Hawk) but perhaps the lack of voting is due to this subject being debated many times on here before.

DickAllen72
06-10-2007, 02:11 PM
Coupled with Jimmy Piersall, he was more entertaining than he had ever been before. ..... Some people complain today about Ed Farmer, but his play-by-play puts Piersall's to shame. I remember listening to Piersall's radio play-by-play in 1977 -- "There's a deep drive to left ... Garr gets it ... off the wall."
Piersall was the best baseball analyst the Sox ever had. And teamed with Caray, they were the best baseball announcing duo the Sox ever had. Entertaining, for sure, but informative as well. Nobody was sharper at play-by-play description than Caray in his prime (not when he was just a shadow and a parody of himself most of his years with the Cubs), and Piersall knew more about baseball than anybody. His play-by-play, although terrible at first also improved somewhat as he went along, but that was not his forte.

When Caray and Piersall would welcome Dizzy Dean or Satchel Paige to the booth with them, it was priceless!

ewokpelts
06-10-2007, 02:43 PM
dj/singleton

tick53
06-10-2007, 05:25 PM
Piersall was the best baseball analyst the Sox ever had. And teamed with Caray, they were the best baseball announcing duo the Sox ever had. Entertaining, for sure, but informative as well. Nobody was sharper at play-by-play description than Caray in his prime (not when he was just a shadow and a parody of himself most of his years with the Cubs), and Piersall knew more about baseball than anybody. His play-by-play, although terrible at first also improved somewhat as he went along, but that was not his forte.

When Caray and Piersall would welcome Dizzy Dean or Satchel Paige to the booth with them, it was priceless!

I couldn't agree with you more Dick. I would like to see a replay of some of those classics.

Piersall: "You younger players, don't try a head first slide into first base like Ralph Garr just did. You'll wind up breaking your necks."

MDF3530
06-10-2007, 05:31 PM
Hawk & Wimpy. Close second for Drysdale and Hawk.

Sad
06-10-2007, 07:20 PM
Harry & Jimmy... the 2 dirty old men...

bahn1225
06-10-2007, 08:07 PM
Time mellows memories...

I remember Caray & Piersall and I remember all of their crap too.
IMHO, people tend to recall what they want and forget the rest.

TDog
06-10-2007, 08:25 PM
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When Caray and Piersall would welcome Dizzy Dean or Satchel Paige to the booth with them, it was priceless!

As long as you didn't care about what was going on in the game.

PaleHoseGeorge
06-10-2007, 09:58 PM
Time mellows memories...

I remember Caray & Piersall and I remember all of their crap too.
IMHO, people tend to recall what they want and forget the rest.

I tend to agree with this sentiment. I think it's simply human nature. Harry Caray was nothing if not a showman, and he was always his own #1 publicist. We Sox Fans have no problem remembering was a drunk and silly old fool he became on the North Side of town, but he was just as drunk and nearly as old a fool on the South Side, too. As for Piersall, anyone listening to sportsblab radio the last 10 years knows his lame shtick too well...

Yes, Harry & Jimmy were entertaining together, and definitely unique, too. They made listening to Bob Elson and Jack Drees seem as dull as watching paint dry. But then, who wouldn't compare favorably to those two guys?

Still, they're better than any other TV tandem in the Sox booth. Hawk has gotten progressively worse, but even in his earlier days with Wimpy he could be painful to listen to. There is a good reason why I switched to Rooney on the radio... and these days it pains me to listen on TV or radio.

There is no good place to hear the Sox anymore.
:(:

Brian26
06-10-2007, 10:15 PM
I tend to agree with this sentiment. I think it's simply human nature.

A few years ago, ESPN Classic replayed the Opening Day 1981 game in Boston. It was interesting to hear them again after so many years, but I wasn't impressed.

Chez
06-11-2007, 08:52 AM
I voted for Drysdale and Hawk. Not only were they entertaining, but they really knew their stuff. Watching their broadcast, I felt like I learned a new nuance of the game every day. I agree with the previous poster's analysis of Bob Waller -- he was excellent. I remember he offered a somewhat critical post-season wrap up during the last game of the season (1973?). That was the last time he broacast a game in Chicago.

Fenway
06-11-2007, 09:26 AM
Harry and Jimmy were completly insane....but captured the mood of those late 70's clubs and fans perfectly.

I didn't know Mel Parnell wound up in Chicago after being fired in Boston. Dave Martin was also hear briefly and was canned as well.

HerzogVon
06-11-2007, 09:29 AM
Went with Harry and Jimmy; the early years. A distinction has to be drawn here because as time went on, Harry became increasingly strident and bitter. His vendetta against Tony LaRussa - ( hardly my favorite ) - became an obsession. He also had a knack for getting Jimmy to do his dirty work for him. In fact, Jimmy detested Tony to the extent that he purposely misprounced his name as "LaRussO". This was reminiscent of then Mayor Jane Byrne referring to the Alderman of the 10nth Ward as "VDROLyak". Still, those first years together...

For what it's worth, I always thought Harry was at his peak in his first few seasons. From 1971 to 74, the Dick Allen years, he was simply untouchable. Those are probably still my favorite years as a White Sox fan.

[ Note: I apologize for any factual errors having to do with specific dates. Time is not always kind to the accuracy of one's memory. ] :gulp:

EastCoastSoxFan
06-11-2007, 10:04 AM
I liked the Double D/Hawk combo. Drysdale was the cool PBP guy and Hawk was the colorful...uh, color guy. Did they split time doing PBP and color?
I remember a "Favorite White Sox Announcers' Calls" thread a while back, and I put my vote in for Hawk's PBP call of the final out of Tom Seaver's 300th win ("Nichols camps underneath it.....HISTORY!")
But I also remember Drysdale's usual home run call, "...way back, and THIS BALL IS GONE!")

As far as Hawk and Wimpy, they could be funny from time to time; but I tend to agree with the consensus assessment that Wimpy didn't seem to put a whole lot of preparation into it (at least by the end of his stint), and it got to a point where he seemed to overplay the "self-effacing mediocre ex-player" image to the point that it got really annoying.

I mean, no one likes an analyst who comes across as too much of a know-it-all; but if you don't have a single damn thing to add to a telecast then stay the hell out of the booth.

Hitmen77
06-11-2007, 10:30 AM
I went with Harry and Jimmy. I bet this vote is heavily divided by age. Those younger than about 32 won't remember Harry and Jimmy. It was tough for me to decide between them and Hawk and Wimpy.

Good points, though, by those who said Harry and Jimmy weren't exactly perfect. They were great together, but Piersall was a jackass.

Medford Bobby
06-11-2007, 11:22 AM
I voted for Drysdale and Hawk. Not only were they entertaining, but they really knew their stuff. Watching their broadcast, I felt like I learned a new nuance of the game everyday. I agree with the previous poster's analysis of Bob Waller -- he was excellent. I remember he offered a somewhat critical post-season wrap up during the last game of the season (1973?). That was the last time he broacast a game in Chicago.

I have some of that last game of the 1973 season on 8-track tape! Sox won in Oakland 1-0 and Steve Stone picked up the win!!!:bandance:

PKalltheway
06-11-2007, 01:35 PM
Hawk and Wimpy, with Hawk and DJ coming a close second. Hawk was what I grew up on, watching him on WGN.

vegyrex
06-11-2007, 04:23 PM
I went with Harry and Jimmy. I bet this vote is heavily divided by age. Those younger than about 32 won't remember Harry and Jimmy. It was tough for me to decide between them and Hawk and Wimpy.




I'm older than that and I voted for Hawk and Wimpy. Harry and Jimmy were great together but Hawk and Wimpy during the early 90's were awesome together.

tick53
06-11-2007, 06:48 PM
I'm glad to see that the bottom seven tandems got at least one vote. I know Brickhouse and Pettit divided their time between the Sox and that other team, but they were all Chicago.

billcissell
06-12-2007, 10:33 AM
Harry during his prime was outstanding. In his later years he became an inebriated shadow of himself. But during the 70s with the Sox nobody could call a game like this guy. When he teamed up with Jimmy they were pure entertainers. During some seasons they were more interesting and exciting than the product the Sox put on the field. And that was the problem. They became bigger than the team, and maybe in some ways thought of themselves as being more inportant than the team. The front office put an end to that attitude by letting Harry take off for the north side of town.

Brickhouse was simply brutal, no matter who he was paired up with. The only thing worse than listening to Brickhouse do baseball was to listen to Brickhouse do football. Absolutely pitiful.

Mel Parnell and Jack Dress did the games back when you got the fuzzy picture on the UHF channel (26?). They were horrible.

Some of the old radio guys were very good. The Commander, Bob Elson, was smooth and informative. Red Rush was full of energy. Even Milo Hamilton was tolerable when he teamed up with Elson on WCFL in the early 60s.

Harry and Jimmy in a landslide. No duo compares to these two showmen, in my opinion.

MDF3530
06-12-2007, 07:08 PM
Good points, though, by those who said Harry and Jimmy weren't exactly perfect. They were great together, but Piersall was a jackass.
Was :redneck ?

MRM
06-12-2007, 08:34 PM
I went with Harry and Jimmy. I bet this vote is heavily divided by age. Those younger than about 32 won't remember Harry and Jimmy. It was tough for me to decide between them and Hawk and Wimpy.

Good points, though, by those who said Harry and Jimmy weren't exactly perfect. They were great together, but Piersall was a jackass.

Younger than 32? I'll bet most 35 year olds have zero recollection of Harry/Jimmy. I'm 38 and was pretty young during that duos rein on the south side.

Piersall was awesome. His post game radio show was no holds barred honest. If it wasn't for that overrated lawyer wannabe who managed the Sox for a few years Jimmy would have ended up an Icon in Sox lore. (IMO, Larussa is the most overrated manager in the history of the game. His teams never won jack without roid rage episodes until last year when he got extremely lucky managing a team that accumulated fewer wins in the regular season than the Sox did.)

Brian26
06-12-2007, 08:37 PM
Did they split time doing PBP and color?
I remember a "Favorite White Sox Announcers' Calls" thread a while back, and I put my vote in for Hawk's PBP call of the final out of Tom Seaver's 300th win ("Nichols camps underneath it.....HISTORY!")

I know for sure the reason Hawk was doing pbp in the 9th for Seaver's 300th was because Drysdale had gone down to the field to interview Seaver after the game.

Brian26
06-12-2007, 08:40 PM
Younger than 32? I'll bet most 35 year olds have zero recollection of Harry/Jimmy. I'm 38 and was pretty young during that duos rein on the south side.

I'm 35 and I have very little memory of hearing Harry and Jimmy other than seeing them occassionally on Ch 44. My first real memory of Piersall was listening to him do the postgame shows on WMAQ radio 1982, the same year Hawk and DD started on tv. Piersall's schtick that year was claiming the Sox needed to trade for Buddy Bell at 3b or Rick Manning in CF if they had any chance at all to win the west.

MRM
06-12-2007, 09:14 PM
I'm 35 and I have very little memory of hearing Harry and Jimmy other than seeing them occassionally on Ch 44. My first real memory of Piersall was listening to him do the postgame shows on WMAQ radio 1982, the same year Hawk and DD started on tv. Piersall's schtick that year was claiming the Sox needed to trade for Buddy Bell at 3b or Rick Manning in CF if they had any chance at all to win the west.

I'll never forget the radio show after Jimmy was fired. A very drunk Harry (who had already defected to the North side) called in throwing a fit over the decision. Jimmy handled it like a pro, telling Carey "coach, i'll call you at the apartment later, I gotta go". Piersall never was one to perse words, and he definately had a hate/hate relationship with Larussa but he was always (well, mostly) professional when it came to his radio show. He held strong convictions and wasn't the least bit afraid to air them, but he was fair about it. Listening to Jimmys post game show, and later (after he was fired by the Sox) his talk show are among my fondest memories as a kid and actually had an influence on my life. The man called it like he saw it and if you don't like it, tough ****.

Brian26
06-12-2007, 09:26 PM
Listening to Jimmys post game show, and later (after he was fired by the Sox) his talk show are among my fondest memories as a kid and actually had an influence on my life. The man called it like he saw it and if you don't like it, tough ****.

Trivia: Do you remember the name of his producer?

Lip Man 1
06-12-2007, 09:43 PM
Bobby:

On the final day of the 1974 season Waller's pregame interview was with Chuck Tanner.

Waller started asking Tanner some very tough questions and you could see him getting madder and madder.

Finally he had enough and walked off on camera during it.

Waller then finished the "interview" by continuing to ask himself questions on camera and give answers that were criticle towards Tanner and the organization.

Lip

MRM
06-12-2007, 10:04 PM
Trivia: Do you remember the name of his producer?

In which gig?

Just kidding. I have no clue.

Brian26
06-12-2007, 10:14 PM
In which gig?

Just kidding. I have no clue.

Nancy Turner. He'd always tell Nancy to hang up on the caller if the caller was giving him a hard time.

Noneck
06-12-2007, 11:10 PM
The test of a good announcing team is when your team is cooked and you still look forward to the next game. Harry and Jimmy were that kinda team. To me Harrelson is painful to listen to even when the Sox are great, Paciorek was ok, too bad he was teamed with the self centered, arrogant shill. Its going to be real tough listening and watching the Sox this year if they don't turn it around.

MRM
06-12-2007, 11:18 PM
The test of a good announcing team is when your team is cooked and you still look forward to the next game. Harry and Jimmy were that kinda team. To me Harrelson is painful to listen to even when the Sox are great, Paciorek was ok, too bad he was teamed with the self centered, arrogant shill. Its going to be real tough listening and watching the Sox this year if they don't turn it around.

Compared to Harry/Jimmy, Hawk/anyone sucks. I agree. But Hawk is passionate about this team, what else can you ask for?

Noneck
06-12-2007, 11:24 PM
Compared to Harry/Jimmy, Hawk/anyone sucks. I agree. But Hawk is passionate about this team, what else can you ask for?

Yeah he is a big Sox fan, but White or Red? Is it possible one of the two is his passion and the other puts food on the table? Harry and Jimmy were passionate to whatever team wrote the check. But they were knowledgable , amusing and crazy Jimmy had his faults but never was a shill. Harry wasn't till he saw the Cubs long green being waved his way.

Frontman
06-14-2007, 07:54 AM
I liked the Double D/Hawk combo. Drysdale was the cool PBP guy and Hawk was the colorful...uh, color guy. :cool:

Nothing wrong with "telling it like it is", but Caray did Sox games before he was sent to charm school by the Cubs, and I thought Piersall was absolutely terrible. Who wants to hear a *****-and-moan session for nine innings every night? They were the polar opposite of Brickhouse, whose happy optimism and positive spin regardless of the facts was also annoying. Made me wish for an old pro like Ernie Harwell or Vin Scully in those days.

Don't say that bold part too loudly. Otherwise, the Cubs fans wouldn't have a shot at hearing their radio team as part of the "Homer Call of the Day" on Dan Patrick.

:wink:

BeeBeeRichard
06-14-2007, 08:09 AM
No love for the Lou Brock era? He brought the same kind of advances to the broadcast booth in the '80s that he had previously brought to sun/rain protection.

http://alldaytogetthere.typepad.com/weblog/images/img_04401.jpg

Lou: "Most definitely, Harry!"

flo-B-flo
06-15-2007, 10:58 AM
Pretty obvious in my book. When the Sox were good they were excited and you could feel the electricity. When it went bad they were brutally critical - and entertaining. Big D and the Hawk were a close second. Pearsall's radio wrap-up was the talk of the next days game on a frequent basis.

slavko
06-15-2007, 10:46 PM
I remember the old duo of Harry Caray and Jimmy P. It was like listening to Oscar and Felix. And I agree that the Cubs organization did something to Harry. I don't know if it was charm school or the mandatory partial lobotomy thats required to be a Cub announcer.

No secrets here. Both parties said that Harry was told to stop the negativity if he wanted to work on the North Side. He acquiesced willingly.

One note on Lou Brock, Harry's old Cards buddy. Smart, nice guy, great player, Harry gave him a lot of help, poor guy had no radio talent.

tick53
06-16-2007, 08:21 AM
No secrets here. Both parties said that Harry was told to stop the negativity if he wanted to work on the North Side. He acquiesced willingly.

One note on Lou Brock, Harry's old Cards buddy. Smart, nice guy, great player, Harry gave him a lot of help, poor guy had no radio talent.

You're right about old Lou. Heckuva nice guy, knew his baseball, but as an announcer he was totally brutal. Lou made Darrin Jackson sound like Mancow.

PaleHoseGeorge
06-16-2007, 10:15 AM
Listening to Hawk Harrelson has become completely intolerable. Even at his worst, Jack Brickhouse never moaned and whined like this pansy-ass has been crying the last few weeks. I don't even need to know the score... from the moment Hawk opens his mouth, the answer is obvious. Truly pathetic... I can't even make it through an entire inning listening to him anymore... that's how bad it has become.

If the Sox employed anyone but the worst radio play-by-play man in the history of organized baseball, I wouldn't listen to the Sox TV coverage at all.

tick53
06-16-2007, 10:31 AM
Listening to Hawk Harrelson has become completely intolerable. Even at his worst, Jack Brickhouse never moaned and whined like this pansy-ass has been crying the last few weeks. I don't even need to know the score... from the moment Hawk opens his mouth, the answer is obvious. Truly pathetic... I can't even make it through an entire inning listening to him anymore... that's how bad it has become.

If the Sox employed anyone but the worst radio play-by-play man in the history of organized baseball, I wouldn't listen to the Sox TV coverage at all.

I second those motions Pale! Hawk has become as you so appropriately put it "completely intolerable". Farmers voice gives me a migraine, Singleton is a world class dullard and as for DJ.....well everyone knows I think DJ is a total waste of airtime.

How sad.

Noneck
06-16-2007, 10:37 AM
Listening to Hawk Harrelson has become completely intolerable. Even at his worst, Jack Brickhouse never moaned and whined like this pansy-ass has been crying the last few weeks. I don't even need to know the score... from the moment Hawk opens his mouth, the answer is obvious. Truly pathetic... I can't even make it through an entire inning listening to him anymore... that's how bad it has become.

If the Sox employed anyone but the worst radio play-by-play man in the history of organized baseball, I wouldn't listen to the Sox TV coverage at all.

I TOTALLY agree with you. I never listened to that arrogant, whining shill , always listened to Rooney. Then came digital cable and the darn 8 second delay and the cost containment move by a World Series Championship Team. I use the old mute button now.

viagracat
06-17-2007, 12:30 PM
Listening to Hawk Harrelson has become completely intolerable. Even at his worst, Jack Brickhouse never moaned and whined like this pansy-ass has been crying the last few weeks. I don't even need to know the score... from the moment Hawk opens his mouth, the answer is obvious. Truly pathetic... I can't even make it through an entire inning listening to him anymore... that's how bad it has become.

If the Sox employed anyone but the worst radio play-by-play man in the history of organized baseball, I wouldn't listen to the Sox TV coverage at all.

I agree that Farmer is terrible, and Singleton has no business being anywhere near a broadcast booth either. Yet I still subject myself, even in these trying times, to listening to Sox games if I'm in my car or truck.

I've always liked the Hawk, though. He's a passionate Sox fan and knows the game. And yes, I've always liked his shtick. I will admit that he's more listenable when the Sox are playing at lest halfway decent, however.

TDog
06-17-2007, 03:01 PM
Pretty obvious in my book. When the Sox were good they were excited and you could feel the electricity. When it went bad they were brutally critical - and entertaining. Big D and the Hawk were a close second. Pearsall's radio wrap-up was the talk of the next days game on a frequent basis.


Piersall's wrap up of the 1982 season included his forecast for the 1983 season made the 2005 Baseball Prospectus projections for the White Sox seem optimistic. Considering the White Sox apparent dependence on rookies to produce in 1983, the holes in the 1982 team and Tony LaRussa's inability to manage his way out of a telephone booth, Piersall couldn't see the Sox finishing above .500.

He was a great analyst. When the White Sox fulfilled his negative expectations, he was a great analyst.