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cws05champ
06-07-2007, 09:43 AM
I get the print edition of the USA today Sports weekly, and they had an interesting article on what % of players drafted in the first 5 rounds reached the majors with the team that drafted them. This is in the last 10 years from 1996 on. Overall, 22% of the players drafted in the 1st 5 rounds reached the majors with the team that drafted them. This does not take into account players that were traded to another organization or the impact of those playerson the big club...just a % of players that reached the majors. Here are some highlights:

1) Detroit 39.7% ALC
2) Kansas City 32.3% ALC
3) Toronto 30.4%
4) San Francisco 28.6%
5) Arizona 25.5%
6) Minnesota 25.4% ALC (ohhh...big surprise)
7) Baltimore 25%
8) LA Angels 24.53%
9) Tampa Bay 24.49%
10) Chicago White Sox 24.3% ALC
17) Oakland 20.8%
21) Cubs 19%
25) Boston 16.4%
27) Yankees 14.8%
29) Cleveland 13.9% (Surprising)
30) Cincinnati 10%

Four teams from the AL central in the top 10, and Cleveland is near the bottom.

> The artcle goes on to talk about # of games played by position players, IP of pitchers as well as honors/awards for any of those players(ROY,Allstar Silver sluggers) to see the quality of the draft, but it is too much info to put here, and would violate the copyrights. Thought all of you may be interested.

UserNameBlank
06-07-2007, 10:02 AM
I'll trade all of that for one impact player every four or five years. I don't think it really matters how many Gustavo Molinas, Gary Majewskis, and Aaron Miles' we develop. Most players who reach the majors either don't produce in starting roles and are relegated to bench roles or only come up for emergencies here and there.

We'll see today where KW's new philosophy will take him. We're going to get a lot of busts, as always, but I'd rather take my chances on someone who could develop into a star caliber player than someone who is more of a sure thing but doesn't project to be anything special. We'll still get our surprises every once in awhile in the later rounds.

Frater Perdurabo
06-08-2007, 12:50 AM
1) Detroit 39.7% ALC
2) Kansas City 32.3% ALC
3) Toronto 30.4%
4) San Francisco 28.6%
5) Arizona 25.5%
6) Minnesota 25.4% ALC (ohhh...big surprise)
7) Baltimore 25%
8) LA Angels 24.53%
9) Tampa Bay 24.49%
10) Chicago White Sox 24.3% ALC
17) Oakland 20.8%
21) Cubs 19%
25) Boston 16.4%
27) Yankees 14.8%
29) Cleveland 13.9% (Surprising)
30) Cincinnati 10%

Four teams from the AL central in the top 10, and Cleveland is near the bottom.

Thank you for this info. Cleveland definitely struck gold when the got Travis Hafner for next to nothing from the Rangers.

CleeFan101
06-08-2007, 10:31 AM
Thank you for this info. Cleveland definitely struck gold when the got Travis Hafner for next to nothing from the Rangers.

Also Sizemore wasnt even supposed to be the best player they got in the Colon trade. Atleast I think it was the Colon trade I just remember he wasnt the main player, I think it was Alex Escobar.

jabrch
06-08-2007, 11:03 AM
That top 10 is split between good teams and bad teams - so there looks to be no correlation between that and winning.

FedEx227
06-09-2007, 02:43 AM
Also Sizemore wasnt even supposed to be the best player they got in the Colon trade. Atleast I think it was the Colon trade I just remember he wasnt the main player, I think it was Alex Escobar.

The exact trade... Grady/Lee/Phillips/Stevens for Colon/Drew:
June 27, 2002: Traded by the Montreal Expos (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/MON/2002.shtml) with Cliff Lee (http://www.baseball-reference.com/l/leecl02.shtml), Brandon Phillips (http://www.baseball-reference.com/p/phillbr01.shtml), and Lee Stevens (http://www.baseball-reference.com/s/stevele01.shtml) to the Cleveland Indians (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CLE/2002.shtml) for Bartolo Colon (http://www.baseball-reference.com/c/colonba01.shtml) and Tim Drew (http://www.baseball-reference.com/d/drewti01.shtml).

California Sox
06-09-2007, 12:36 PM
Also Sizemore wasnt even supposed to be the best player they got in the Colon trade. Atleast I think it was the Colon trade I just remember he wasnt the main player, I think it was Alex Escobar.

At the time Phillips was probably considered the best player, but make no mistake about it Sizemore was considered a huge prospect. I believe he got the highest bonus ever given to that point to a third-rounder. Must be nice to be Omar Minya where you know you're on your way out so you can turn Sizemore and Lee into Jeff Liefer and Rocky Biddle.

FireMariotti
06-13-2007, 02:55 AM
I'd like to see the percentage of draftees that reach the majors with their original organization. I have no idea what these numbers would look like, but it might shed more light on which teams do a better job of recognizing, obtaining, and developing major league talent.

MRM
06-13-2007, 03:55 AM
I'd like to see the percentage of draftees that reach the majors with their original organization. I have no idea what these numbers would look like, but it might shed more light on which teams do a better job of recognizing, obtaining, and developing major league talent.

No it wouldn't. It would reveal the teams that won't/can't spend money thus are forced to bring up players that aren't ready/shouldn't be there. I'll guarantee the Kansas Cities and Tampa Bay Devil Rays of the world lead the majors in calling up draftees.

Fungo
06-13-2007, 10:36 AM
Baseball America did a story about 10-15 years ago on the percentage of all drafted players that actually reached the majors and the number was around 10.6%.

cws05champ
06-13-2007, 10:59 AM
I'd like to see the percentage of draftees that reach the majors with their original organization. I have no idea what these numbers would look like, but it might shed more light on which teams do a better job of recognizing, obtaining, and developing major league talent.

This is that list. This is a list of players drafted in the 1st 5 rounds that reach the majors with their original organization that drafted them.

FireMariotti
06-13-2007, 04:02 PM
No it wouldn't. It would reveal the teams that won't/can't spend money thus are forced to bring up players that aren't ready/shouldn't be there. I'll guarantee the Kansas Cities and Tampa Bay Devil Rays of the world lead the majors in calling up draftees.

I guess what I wrote is confusing, even to me as I look back at it:redface:. I was just wondering how many players who are drafted and reach the majors, actually do so with the original organization that drafted them. You're right though, this would have nothing to do with the success of an organization because bottom feeder major league teams fill their rosters with players who probably have no business in the majors.