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Randar68
03-28-2002, 03:16 PM
Heard the game on my way back from a late lunch, but can't listen here at work...

BLAH!

Jjav829
03-28-2002, 03:22 PM
:DJ

And heres a reminder. The sox game today is on FSN for those who forgot/didn't know. Unfortunately Chimp and Otto have the call.

I think czal is doing play by play randar.

czalgosz
03-28-2002, 03:24 PM
Top 2

Todd Ritchie pitching
Damon Buford flies out to right.
Alex Gonzalez doubles to center.
Gonzalez to third on Ritchie wild pitch.
Mark Bellhorn singles to left center, Gonzalez scores.
Darrin Lewis grounds into double play to second.

After 1 1/2 - Cubs 1, White Sox 0.

Jjav829
03-28-2002, 03:43 PM
If you wondering if czal fell asleep, he didn't. Long inning but a good one, 7-1 Sox so far. You'll get the details from czal.

doctor30th
03-28-2002, 03:45 PM
Couple of things.

One. did anyone notice that Danny Sandoval is wearing a little league helmet at the plate (both ear flaps). He looked like a 12 year old.

Secondly. Chip and dave are idiots. They start talking how Chicago White Sox pitching is bad, and how they can't use the excuse of the Arizona Air effecting them. But then in the 2nd inning all the sudden sanchez isn't pitching well, and it's because it's hard to pitch in Arizona. And now they won't stop talking about Arizona and how hard it is to pitch there. idiots.

Three run homer by Magglio. Excellent.

czalgosz
03-28-2002, 03:45 PM
Bottom 2

Jesus Sanchez pitching
Paul Konerko walks.
Jose Valentin flies out to deep left.
Carlos Lee triples to center, Konerko scores.
Sandy Alomar doubles to left, Lee scores.
Danny Sandoval pops out to first.
Kenny Lofton singles to left, Alomar scores, Lofton to second on throw.
Durham doubles to right, Lofton scores.
Frank Thomas walks.
Magglio Ordonez homers to center, Durham and Thomas score.
Paul Konerko flies out to center.

After 2 - White Sox 7, Cubs 1.

Jjav829
03-28-2002, 03:47 PM
Hehe ok I guess czal left. But it's 7-1 Sox. Maggs had a 3 run HR in the inning. Alomar had an RBI double, Lofton an RBI single. Plus Carlos had a RBI triple. So the Sox hit for the team cycle.

HR Joe Girardi. 7-2 Cubs.

Edit: Im a moron. :smile:

Randar68
03-28-2002, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by czalgosz
Bottom 2

Jesus Sanchez pitching
Paul Konerko walks.
Jose Valentin flies out to deep left.
Carlos Lee triples to center, Konerko scores.
Sandy Alomar doubles to left, Lee scores.
Danny Sandoval pops out to first.
Kenny Lofton singles to left, Alomar scores, Lofton to second on throw.
Durham doubles to right, Lofton scores.
Frank Thomas walks.
Magglio Ordonez homers to center, Durham and Thomas score.
Paul Konerko flies out to center.

After 2 - White Sox 7, Cubs 1.

And people wonder why I'm not worried about us winning games in the regular season.

doctor30th
03-28-2002, 03:50 PM
This production crew stinks too. Apparently they don't think the first pitch of the inning is important enough, so they have a commercial over it.

Were are the girls in the tank tops. This is a very dissapointing cubs broadcast. Usually they spend more time on the Gals in Tanks and halters then they do on the action in the game.

czalgosz
03-28-2002, 03:50 PM
Top 3

Joe Girardi homers to left.
Augie Ojeda flies out to center.
Delino DeSheilds singles to right.
(someone - didn't catch his name) grounds into double play to short.

After 2 1/2 - White Sox 7, Cubs 2.

Jjav829
03-28-2002, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by doctor30th
This production crew stinks too. Apparently they don't think the first pitch of the inning is important enough, so they have a commercial over it.

Were are the girls in the tank tops. This is a very dissapointing cubs broadcast. Usually they spend more time on the Gals in Tanks and halters then they do on the action in the game.

That was mainly Arnie Harris who was responsible for showing the women in tanks etc.

doctor30th
03-28-2002, 03:53 PM
Yes, I know, but you think they would carry the tradition on. It is a shame he passed away last year. I'm not a cubs fan, but at least he made the games somewhat interesting.

doctor30th
03-28-2002, 04:09 PM
Sox are killing them. Durham's second Grand slam of spring trainging.

Randar68
03-28-2002, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by doctor30th
Sox are killing them. Durham's second Grand slam of spring trainging.

Durham prediction:
.275 avg, 23 HR's, 73 RBI, and about 125 K's...

He's still swingin' for the fences...

doctor30th
03-28-2002, 04:14 PM
no, he had every right to swing for the fences. 3-2 count bases loaded, pitcher that has to throw a strike. Anyone would have swung at it it was down the pipe.

Randar68
03-28-2002, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by doctor30th
no, he had every right to swing for the fences. 3-2 count bases loaded, pitcher that has to throw a strike. Anyone would have swung at it it was down the pipe.

That doesn't mean anything about my prediction. I am not just saying that because of one HR. He has had several 3 K games so far on top of that...

voodoochile
03-28-2002, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by Randar68


Durham prediction:
.275 avg, 23 HR's, 73 RBI, and about 125 K's...

He's still swingin' for the fences...

Better in the two hole, especially if some of those K's are while looking - which means he is trying to take walks. If he can get his OBP around .350, he will be fine with the above numbers...

doctor30th
03-28-2002, 04:19 PM
Sorry man, didn't mean to sound like I was attacking you pridictions, I was just defending him on that at bat.

czalgosz
03-28-2002, 04:19 PM
Bottom 3 -

RHP Carlos Zambrano relieves LHP Jesus Sanchez
Jose Valentin walks.
Carlos Lee strikes out looking.
Sandy Alomar reaches on an infield single, Valentin to second.
Danny Sandoval singles to left, Valentin scores, Alomar to second.
Kenny Lofton walks, Alomar to third, Sandoval to second.
Ray Durham homers, Alomar, Sandoval and Lofton score.
Frank Thomas singles to center.
RHP Will Cunnane relieves RHP Carlos Zambrano
Magglio Ordonez doubles to deep center, Thomas scores.
Paul Konerko doubles to left, Ordonez scores.
Jose Valentin flies out to right.
Carlos Lee doubles to right, Konerko scores.
Sandy Alomar grounds out to second.

After 3 - White Sox 15, Cubs 2.

danman31
03-28-2002, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by doctor30th
Sox are killing them. Durham's second Grand slam of spring trainging. Hehe, this is sweet. 15-2 :D: Durham's GS was amazing, it got out of there in a hurry. If only we could do this to the Cubs when it matters.

voodoochile
03-28-2002, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by danman31
Hehe, this is sweet. 15-2 :D: Durham's GS was amazing, it got out of there in a hurry. If only we could do this to the Cubs when it matters.

It's the second time this ST that we have done it to them. I like that. Besides, it is definitely a game the Sox players can get up for and that will pay off during the season. They have to start taking games seriously. Now is the time to play to the wire...

doctor30th
03-28-2002, 04:27 PM
Apparently Thomas and Ordonez are both out of the game, for safety.

Not a bad Idea, did they say who the replacements are?

czalgosz
03-28-2002, 04:28 PM
Top 4

Corey Patterson singles to right.
Roosevelt Brown pops out to left.
Andy Gonzalez grounds into fielders' choice to second, Patterson out at second.
Mark Bellhorn walks, Gonzalez to second.
Darrin Lewis flies out to center.

After 3 1/2 - White Sox 15, Cubs 2.

voodoochile
03-28-2002, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by czalgosz
Top 4

Corey Patterson singles to right.
Roosevelt Brown pops out to left.
Andy Gonzalez grounds into fielders' choice to second, Patterson out at second.
Mark Bellhorn walks, Gonzalez to second.
Darrin Lewis flies out to center.

After 3 1/2 - White Sox 15, Cubs 2.

Sounds like Ritchie is grooving. Man if he can have a good outing today and get his time off, he may come out of the gate on-fire. We really really need him and Burly-Mon to set the standard early in the season.

doctor30th
03-28-2002, 04:38 PM
Mark Johnson in for Thomas.
Rowand in for Ordonez.

czalgosz
03-28-2002, 04:39 PM
Bottom 4

RHP Michael Wuertz relieves RHP Will Cunnane
Danny Sandoval walks.
Kenny Lofton singles, Sandoval to second.
Ray Durham singles, Sandoval scores, Lofton to second.
Mark Johnson flies out to center, Lofton to third.
Aaron Rowand grounds into double play to second.

After 4 - White Sox 16, Cubs 2.

cheeses_h_rice
03-28-2002, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by czalgosz
Bottom 4

RHP Michael Wuertz relieves RHP Will Cunnane
Danny Sandoval walks.
Kenny Lofton singles, Sandoval to second.
Ray Durham singles, Sandoval scores, Lofton to second.
Mark Johnson flies out to center, Lofton to third.
Aaron Rowand grounds into double play to second.

After 4 - White Sox 16, Cubs 2.

:ray

I'm en fuego today!

czalgosz
03-28-2002, 04:48 PM
Top 5

Joe Girardi singles to right.
Augie Ojeda doubles to right, Girardi to third.
Delino DeSheilds flies out to center, Girardi scores, Ojeda to third.
Chris Stynes fouls out to catcher.
Corey Patterson grounds out to short.

After 4 1/2 - White Sox 16, Cubs 3.

Cheryl
03-28-2002, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by danman31
Hehe, this is sweet. 15-2 :D: Durham's GS was amazing, it got out of there in a hurry. If only we could do this to the Cubs when it matters.

It always matters if it's the Cubs.

czalgosz
03-28-2002, 04:56 PM
Bottom 5

Paul Konerko grounds out to third.
Jose Valentin fouls out to catcher.
Carlos Lee walks.
Sandy Alomar grounds into fielders' choice to short.

After 5 - White Sox 16, Cubs 3.

Jerry_Manuel
03-28-2002, 04:57 PM
How about that black cat that ran on the field! :o:

Randar68
03-28-2002, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by czalgosz
Carlos Lee walks.


Now THAT's good to see!

kermittheefrog
03-28-2002, 05:07 PM
I love how Chip just "justified" the Garland/Karchner deal by saying w/o Karchner the Cubs wouldn't have made the playoffs. Well Karchner gave them a 5.14 ERA and served up 6 homers in 28 innings, I'm sure he really helped....

czalgosz
03-28-2002, 05:07 PM
Top 6

RHP Bob Howry relieves RHP Todd Ritchie
Roosevelt Brown singles to center.
Alez Gonzalez grounds into fielders' choice to short, Brown out at second.
Mark Bellhorn fouls out to third.
Darrin Lewis doubles to deep left, Gonzalez to third.
Robert Machado singles to center, Gonzalez and Lewis score.
Augie Ojeda flies out to right.

After 6 - White Sox 16, Cubs 5.

Randar68
03-28-2002, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by kermittheefrog
I love how Chip just "justified" the Garland/Karchner deal by saying w/o Karchner the Cubs wouldn't have made the playoffs. Well Karchner gave them a 5.14 ERA and served up 6 homers in 28 innings, I'm sure he really helped....


yeah, they have to put a positive spin on it no matter how. It doesn't matter how stupid or ignorant their statements are, there are sure to be thousands of Iowa and North side natives waiting to gobble it up without asking a single question.

cheeses_h_rice
03-28-2002, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by kermittheefrog
I love how Chip just "justified" the Garland/Karchner deal by saying w/o Karchner the Cubs wouldn't have made the playoffs. Well Karchner gave them a 5.14 ERA and served up 6 homers in 28 innings, I'm sure he really helped....

By that logic, I think the Flubs should actually be more grateful to the Giants for blowing a 7-run lead against the Rockies in their 162nd game of the season:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/news/1998/09/27/giants_rockies/

czalgosz
03-28-2002, 05:15 PM
Bottom 6

Danny Sandoval flies out to center.
Willie Harris grounds out to second.
Chad Durham singles to center.
Mark Johnson singles to center, Durham to third.
Aaron Rowand grounds into fielder's choice to third.

After 6 - White Sox 16, Cubs 5.

delben91
03-28-2002, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by Randar68


Now THAT's good to see!

Just got back from my second midterm, I thought I was seeing things when I read that line. Luckily Randar is backing me up :smile: Man, nice to see even a hint that carlos' view of the strike zone is improving

czalgosz
03-28-2002, 05:20 PM
Top 7

RHP Antonio Osuna relieves RHP Bob Howry
Delino Desheilds grounds out to second.
Chris Stynes grounds out to third.
Corey Patterson pops out to shallow center.

After 6 1/2 - White Sox 16, Cubs 5.

czalgosz
03-28-2002, 05:34 PM
Bottom 7

Jeff Liefer grounds out to short.
Aaron Miles doubles to left.
Scott Bakowski (sp?) singles to center, Miles scores.
Josh Paul singles, Bakowski to second.
RHP Alan Benes relieves RHP Mike Wuertz
Danny Sandoval singles, Bakowski scores, Paul to third.
Willie Harris grounds into fielders' choice to third, Paul scores, Sandoval out at second, Harris to second on 2B DeSheilds' throwing error.
Chad Durham grounds out to short.

After 7 - White Sox 19, Cubs 5.

cheeses_h_rice
03-28-2002, 05:38 PM
What was the score of the first game with the Flubbies this ST? 20-9?

czalgosz
03-28-2002, 05:45 PM
Top 8

LHP Mike Porzio relieves RHP Antonio Osuna
Roosevelt Brown doubles to left center.
Alex Gonzalez walks.
Mark Bellhorn strikes out looking.
Darrin Lewis flies out to deep right, Brown to third.
Robert Machado doubles to deep center, Brown and Gonzalez score.
Augie Ojeda flies out to right.

After 7 1/2 - White Sox 19, Cubs 7.

Iguana775
03-28-2002, 05:45 PM
who is this sandoval guy?? i have never heard of him. it seems like he is getting on base every time up.

czalgosz
03-28-2002, 05:55 PM
Bottom 8

Guillermo Reyes grounds out to second.
Aaron Rowand singles to right.
Jeff Liefer singles to right, Rowand to second.
Aaron Miles grounds into fielders' choice to second, Liefer out at second, Rowand to third.
Scott Bikowski homers, Rowand and Miles score.
Josh Paul strikes out looking.

After 8 - White Sox 22, Cubs 7.

Randar68
03-28-2002, 05:56 PM
Originally posted by Iguana775
who is this sandoval guy?? i have never heard of him. it seems like he is getting on base every time up.

Danny Sandoval was a free agent signee by the Sox in 1996, When Sandoval was just 16 or 17 years old out of Lara, Venezuela. He spent time at Winston-Salem and Birmingham last year and split time between 2B, SS, and 3B.

He will probably end up at 3rd, as he is pretty similar in defensive abilities to Hummel, but not quite the hitter...

Listed as 5'11" 183, R/R.

CerberusWG
03-28-2002, 05:56 PM
LOL, this is great.

Iguana775
03-28-2002, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by Randar68


Danny Sandoval was a free agent signee by the Sox in 1996, When Sandoval was just 16 or 17 years old out of Lara, Venezuela. He spent time at Winston-Salem and Birmingham last year and split time between 2B, SS, and 3B.

He will probably end up at 3rd, as he is pretty similar in defensive abilities to Hummel, but not quite the hitter...

Listed as 5'11" 183, R/R.

thanks randar.....think there is any future for him in the bigs??

czalgosz
03-28-2002, 06:01 PM
Top 9

RHP Steve Schrenk relieves LHP Mike Porzio
Bobby Hill strikes out swinging.
Mike Amrhein singles to center.
Corey Patterson grounds into double play to second.

Final - White Sox 22, Cubs 7.

CerberusWG
03-28-2002, 06:04 PM
From BA:


Sandoval (AA) .281 BA 29 RBI 17 BB 26 SO 17 SB .325 SLG .335 OBP

Randar68
03-28-2002, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by Iguana775


thanks randar.....think there is any future for him in the bigs??

Don't really think so. I think he could be a competent utility guy. He has speed and can play anywhere in the IF (except 1st, so what).

I don't think he has the eye or bat to be a major league everyday player.

He's prolly somewhere around a C prospect in Kermit's/BP's rating system. Decent tools, not a great combination of them though...

Vsahajpal
03-28-2002, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by Randar68



yeah, they have to put a positive spin on it no matter how. It doesn't matter how stupid or ignorant their statements are, there are sure to be thousands of Iowa and North side natives waiting to gobble it up without asking a single question.

God I hate Iowa. And Ed Lynch.

Daver
03-28-2002, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by Vsahajpal


God I hate Iowa. And Ed Lynch.

Vic,when are going to come out and admit you are a Sox fan?

Vsahajpal
03-28-2002, 11:52 PM
March 32nd

:)

Daver
03-29-2002, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by Vsahajpal
March 32nd

:)

LOL!!!

Fine,stay in the closet.:redneck