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anewman35
05-16-2007, 12:11 AM
This article touches on most of the options: http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070515&content_id=1966422&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws

chisoxmike
05-16-2007, 12:14 AM
I start Danks if he doesn't pitch very long. If he goes long, use Masset. I don't like the idea of Contreras being overused. Although, the idea of Gavin Floyd is interesting...

102605
05-16-2007, 01:04 AM
Why was the Bulls game taken off the jumbotron?

DumpJerry
05-16-2007, 01:09 AM
Why was the Bulls game taken off the jumbotron?
To clear the park. They could have waited ten more minutes. oh well.

My nephew Eric can start on Sunday. He's six years old and will get 19 K's and zero walks. It's the Cubs, after all.

DrCrawdad
05-16-2007, 02:06 AM
If they skip Gio on Saturday (or whatever his next scheduled start is) then Gio's coming up.

I'd like to see Gavin Floyd given a shot.

whitesoxfan
05-16-2007, 02:22 AM
If they skip Gio on Saturday (or whatever his next scheduled start is) then Gio's coming up.

I'd like to see Gavin Floyd given a shot.

I agree. I definitely don't want to see Contreras pitching on just 3 days rest. I'd like to see Gio or Floyd on Sunday.

HotelWhiteSox
05-16-2007, 02:38 AM
I don't want Floyd, from what I've seen he's the poster child for head case, and I could easily see him falling apart in a front of a big, riled up crowd


We'll have to see how today's games go, but for now I picked Masset

sox1970
05-16-2007, 06:53 AM
Whatever they decide, I hope the decision is made today. If Danks or Contreras pitch 100-110 pitches today, I think you could rule out either pitching on Sunday. I think Danks could handle it if he only goes 5 innings today on about 80-85 pitches. Although is that what you really want? I just want him to win and go as long as possible.

Gavin Floyd left after four innings last night. Not sure if that's related to his blister problems.

Gio Gonzalez--they'd have to drop someone off the 40-man. I think they could get away with dropping Paulino Reynoso. It would be kinda cool seeing his ML debut on Sunday.

Massett...nah. He's been bad lately. Would rather not see that.

MP#3
05-16-2007, 07:22 AM
I say start Danks. Hes young and can handle it plus we need someone out there with at least some experience given the intensity of the flubs/Sox games. Contreras is getting a little to old to only be given three days rest this early in the season.

GoSox2K3
05-16-2007, 09:16 AM
I don't see any good options. I'll go with Masset.

If we bring up Gio, doesn't that start his arbitration clock about a year earlier than it would have probably been started?

Since part of Floyd's problem is confidence, I don't know if I want to bring him up and put him in the spotlight of the circus/zoo atmosphere that is the Crosstown series. Plus he hasn't even had a chance to work out his problems in AAA yet because he has missed a few starts.

If we bring up anyone, maybe it should be Haegar. But even that's not a great option because he's been struggling so far this year in AAA.

The Immigrant
05-16-2007, 09:34 AM
The Cubs are terrible against lefties. If Danks cannot go on short rest, bring up Gio and give him a shot.

The Immigrant
05-16-2007, 09:36 AM
If we bring up Gio, doesn't that start his arbitration clock about a year earlier than it would have probably been started?

Technically it does, but I believe the clock only runs for the time that he's actually with the club. In other words, he won't gain a full year of service time based on a spot start.

sox1970
05-16-2007, 09:37 AM
If we bring up Gio, doesn't that start his arbitration clock about a year earlier than it would have probably been started?

Not really, because it's still a partial season. He'd have to be up for 3 full years to be arbitration eligible. I see no problem bringing Gio up for one start to get a taste of the big leagues.

dickallen15
05-16-2007, 09:37 AM
If either Contreras or Danks gets rocked today and has a pretty short outing, that's who I would start. Please not Masset. I like the Gio idea. He may be tough for a few innings.

sox1970
05-16-2007, 10:01 AM
The game would have been at 7pm last night, and now it's 1pm today. That's 18 hours. Is 18 hours going to kill Danks? I don't think so. Let him pitch on Sunday, and keep an eye on his pitch count today. With the Yankees lineup, chances are he's not going that deep today anyway.

Madvora
05-16-2007, 10:06 AM
You gotta think that Masset may be used up in today's games too. We could to need a lot of relievers to work a double header. Masset might not have enough rest to go out there in a few days and start.

spiffie
05-16-2007, 10:12 AM
None of the above. Bring Charlie Haeger up and let him go for it. I can easily see the Cubs, not exactly a patient team, flailing away at the knuckler.

sox1970
05-16-2007, 10:25 AM
None of the above. Bring Charlie Haeger up and let him go for it. I can easily see the Cubs, not exactly a patient team, flailing away at the knuckler.

Haeger is scheduled to pitch Thursday for Charlotte. They would have to make that decision soon.

...just go with Danks.

soxfan13
05-16-2007, 10:29 AM
Haeger is scheduled to pitch Thursday for Charlotte. They would have to make that decision soon.

...just go with Danks.

I really dont think it matters for him, since he is a knuckle baller.

sox1970
05-16-2007, 10:31 AM
I really dont think it matters for him, since he is a knuckle baller.

Haeger throws more fastballs than you think. He's not pitching on two days rest.

soxfan13
05-16-2007, 10:32 AM
Haeger throws more fastballs than you think. He's not pitching on two days rest.

I know he does just like Wakefield and others. I still think it doesnt matter for him

skottyj242
05-16-2007, 10:39 AM
Who's going to catch all these games? I really don't want to see Molina at all.

jenn2080
05-16-2007, 10:45 AM
None of the above. Bring Charlie Haeger up and let him go for it. I can easily see the Cubs, not exactly a patient team, flailing away at the knuckler.


Charlie is a good call.


I did vote for Danks though, but would be perfectly content with Charlie coming up. Nothing can be worse than Buehrle last year.

Hopefully we do not see Molina at ALL!

kevingrt
05-16-2007, 12:38 PM
I say whoever has an easier time of it today. If Danks or Contreras, one of them can hold it to 90 pitches or less I would really like to see them pitch on Sunday. First off bringing up someone for Cubs vs. Sox is a bit of an adrenaline rush in itself like Masset said. I mean not everyone is Arnie Munoz and can have the best outing of their career versus the Cubs.

Also, what if Gio or Gavin were to have a superb start. Then what do they do just go back to the minors? One start is a tease for them. Keep them in Charlotte until they can get a full stint up in the bigs.

I don't mind seeing Masset out there but knowing Ozzie in the NL he will use five pitchers a day.

I'm thinking Jose or Danks on short.

Walker29
05-16-2007, 08:50 PM
Danks on short rest? call up? or bullpen day?

getonbckthr
05-16-2007, 08:53 PM
From how Ozzie sounded in his postgame interview they are leaning towards a call-up. Floyd or Haegar I would assume.

cws05champ
05-16-2007, 10:28 PM
Won't be Floyd. They would not be able to send him back down after the start. I don't believe he has any options left.

JermaineDye05
05-16-2007, 10:38 PM
Why would they make a call-up?

IlliniSox4Life
05-16-2007, 11:01 PM
Why would they make a call-up?

Because of the rain delay they would have to either start Danks on short rest or Contreras on short rest. Danks is really young and I guess not used to pitching a ton of innings a year, and Contreras is really old. Ozzie doesn't want to stress their arms too much. I don't know if I agree with it or not, but a callup isn't a huge deal, especially if they expect to activate Thome after the Cubs series anyway, they would have to send someone down either way.

JermaineDye05
05-16-2007, 11:07 PM
Because of the rain delay they would have to either start Danks on short rest or Contreras on short rest. Danks is really young and I guess not used to pitching a ton of innings a year, and Contreras is really old. Ozzie doesn't want to stress their arms too much. I don't know if I agree with it or not, but a callup isn't a huge deal, especially if they expect to activate Thome after the Cubs series anyway, they would have to send someone down either way.

Oh ok, well that makes sense then. Hopefully they make the right decision with a call up , unless they plan on stretching out Masset since he will most likely be a starter in the future, although I see that as unlikely. Probably Haeger or Floyd to be called up.

CLR01
05-16-2007, 11:09 PM
Won't be Floyd. They would not be able to send him back down after the start. I don't believe he has any options left.

Options last the whole year. They can send him down and call him up as many times as they want this year as long as they follow the 10-day rule.

JermaineDye05
05-16-2007, 11:14 PM
Floyd has been doing good, I could see them calling him up. I really don't see Gio getting the call up, he has yet to pitch above AA. Granted he has been dominating out there, but he's facing AA hitters and I wouldn't be surprised if they've been chasing a lot. In the majors you have a lot more disciplined hitters who will take the pitches that a lot of the hitters are swinging at down there. I say you call up Haeger or Floyd, at least you have someone with experience and won't have to worry about hurting the mentality of one of your top prospects in the minors right now.

Jjav829
05-16-2007, 11:18 PM
Myself. We'd get killed, but man would it be worth it to get a chance to pitch in the majors. :yup:

gosiu
05-16-2007, 11:18 PM
If Pods is more than a month away from returning, then putting him on the 60 day DL would solve the 40 man roster issue.

CLR01
05-16-2007, 11:19 PM
I really don't see Gio getting the call up, he has yet to pitch above AA. Granted he has been dominating out there, but he's facing AA hitters and I wouldn't be surprised if they've been chasing a lot.


They would also need to make 2 roster moves to get Gio here.

gosiu
05-16-2007, 11:25 PM
Also, I believe Floyd was first added to the fourty man roster in September 04 (he started the year as a non-roster invitee). So assuming he was sent down in 05 and 06, that's two option years, with this being his third. So he can go back and forth all he wants this year.

I think that's right.

HotelWhiteSox
05-16-2007, 11:33 PM
Whoever it is, Ozzie said he's deciding after tonight's game. Probably was holding out to see if Jose didn't last long and could be brought back

ondafarm
05-16-2007, 11:52 PM
Shouldn't that be "whom"? It is an objective interrogative, aka accusative case?

Unblyleven Bread
05-17-2007, 12:08 AM
Shouldn't that be "whom"? It is an objective interrogative, aka accusative case?

This man is correct.

A. Cavatica
05-17-2007, 12:37 AM
Won't be Floyd. They would not be able to send him back down after the start. I don't believe he has any options left.

Start Floyd, then after seeing him pitch in a big league game, release him and get it over with. No need to send him back down.

Seriously, start Danks.

JB98
05-17-2007, 03:24 AM
Make it a bullpen day and start Masset.

sox1970
05-17-2007, 05:37 PM
And the winner is....Jose Contreras.

All I can say--thank god it's not Floyd.

MDF3530
05-17-2007, 05:46 PM
I gotta say Danks.

Rocky Soprano
05-17-2007, 05:48 PM
Ozzie said Contreras is pitching.

Fat Johnnies
05-17-2007, 05:49 PM
yeah. ozzie said in the postgame interview that its gonna be Jose.

getonbckthr
05-17-2007, 05:55 PM
I go Haegar

sox1970
05-17-2007, 07:30 PM
I go Haegar

Too late. Contreras is pitching Sunday, and Haeger is on the bump right now for Charlotte.

Assuming the new rotation is Contreras, Danks, Garland, Buehrle, Vazquez---Skip Danks will get his shot against the Cubs at the Cell on Saturday, June 23.

WhiteSoxFan84
05-18-2007, 03:20 AM
And the winner is....Jose Contreras.

All I can say--thank god it's not Floyd.

Why do you say that? This is the one spot I would've loved to see Floyd pitch in. Floyd's career numbers during the day: 3-1, 2.38 ERA, and 22 2/3 IP.

sox1970
05-18-2007, 06:53 AM
Why do you say that? This is the one spot I would've loved to see Floyd pitch in. Floyd's career numbers during the day: 3-1, 2.38 ERA, and 22 2/3 IP.

Because I'm going to the game, and I really don't want to see him. Not a Gavin Floyd fan.

soxfan13
05-18-2007, 10:01 AM
In this mornings Sun-Times Guillen is quoted as saying Contreras is getting the start on short rest.

HotelWhiteSox
05-19-2007, 05:50 PM
Sounds like Ozzie has now switched it to Masset, from whitesox.com

alohafri
05-20-2007, 07:55 AM
Sounds like Ozzie has now switched it to Masset, from whitesox.com

Ozzie is going for the sweep I see. Anyone want to bet that Terro is in left, Mack is in right, and Hall is behind the plate? Maybe Ozuna at third?:angry:

A. Cavatica
05-20-2007, 08:38 AM
The article also says Contreras pitches tomorrow vs Oakland.

What happened to Danks?