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PKalltheway
05-13-2007, 06:23 PM
In light of being reminded of the Sox's 19-0 loss at the hands of the Angels in 2002 the other day, what was the worst series you have seen the Sox play? I'm not talking about just a "bad" series, I'm talking about the Sox just getting absolutely clobbered. The worst one I can remember was in an interleague series against the Braves in 2002 when the White Sox got absolutely DEMOLISHED.

Any others?

chisoxmike
05-13-2007, 07:00 PM
May 27-29 2002 vs. the Yankees. Pretty much ended a season that started off with some hope.

AND

September 16-18 2003 at Minnesota. If you don't know what happened these three games, I don't think you're a Sox fan.

32nd&Wallace
05-13-2007, 07:05 PM
May 27-29 2002 vs. the Yankees. Pretty much ended a season that started off with some hope.

AND

September 16-18 2003 at Minnesota. If you don't know what happened these three games, I don't think you're a Sox fan.
Agreed. The Yankee series ended Foulke's career as a closer with the Sox. The July 2004 series against the Twins is my vote.

chisoxmike
05-13-2007, 07:07 PM
The July 2004 series against the Twins is my vote.


Yeah, July 26-28, 2004. Awful, just awful.

Brian26
05-13-2007, 07:19 PM
I don't have the exact dates, but the June 1998 Crosstown sweep at the Shrine. I actually went to the Sunday game and had to leave it was so painful.

Edit - June 5-7, '98
From retrosheet:
Game Played on Sunday, June 7, 1998 (D) at Wrigley Field

CHI A (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1998/TCHA01998.htm) 1 0 0 1 0 0 5 0 0 - 7 11 0
CHI N (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1998/TCHN01998.htm) 5 0 3 2 3 0 0 0 x - 13 14 0

sox1970
05-13-2007, 07:42 PM
May 27-29 2002 vs. the Yankees. Pretty much ended a season that started off with some hope.

AND

September 16-18 2003 at Minnesota. If you don't know what happened these three games, I don't think you're a Sox fan.

I don't go to a ton of games, but I was at both the game where Giambi hit the homer off Foulke, and the Twins game where Santana started, and Daubach hit the ball in front of homeplate. Just awful.

....but I was also at the Crede game on 9/20/05.

PKalltheway
05-13-2007, 08:14 PM
September 16-18 2003 at Minnesota. If you don't know what happened these three games, I don't think you're a Sox fan.
Oh believe me, I remember that series, quite vividly.:angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

Hinrich
05-13-2007, 08:23 PM
4/4-4/8 2001 vs. the Tigers was a great way to start the year...

7/2-7/4 04 vs. the Cubs wasn't pretty. I still remember Damaso Marte walking Todd Walker with the bases loaded in the ninth to blow that game...

TDog
05-13-2007, 08:59 PM
4/4-4/8 2001 vs. the Tigers was a great way to start the year...

I was at the last two of those games, having driven down from Wisconsin for the occasion. As I was filing out on Sunday, I heard someone mocking the "It's Time" campaign, muttering, "It's time, it's time to start winning."

The worst White Sox series I ever saw began on April 7, 1970, with a 12-0 loss to the Twins in Old Comiskey and ended the following Oct. 1 with a seven-game losing streak that certainly would have been longer if the season hadn't mercifully ended with 106 losses.

People can get upset with a 10-run loss to a last-place team, but if you've been a White Sox fan for awhile, you've seen much, much worse.

whitesoxfan
05-13-2007, 09:01 PM
May 27-29 2002 vs. the Yankees. Pretty much ended a season that started off with some hope.

AND

September 16-18 2003 at Minnesota. If you don't know what happened these three games, I don't think you're a Sox fan.

Both of those series get my vote, as well as the late July 04 series against the Twins.

DoItForDanPasqua
05-13-2007, 09:15 PM
Maybe not the worst played all around, because of the good pitching, but the most disappointing was the 2000 ALDS.

MDF3530
05-13-2007, 10:09 PM
Any time we played the Royals last year.

Tragg
05-13-2007, 11:37 PM
I saw the Sox get swept in a series at Seattle in 1999 I think. Ugly stuff. Navarro walked the bases loaded in the 10th.

SoxandtheCityTee
05-14-2007, 12:53 AM
Maybe not the worst played all around, because of the good pitching, but the most disappointing was the 2000 ALDS.

God, I hate that one.

Also, the four-game Twins series at home September 8-11, 2003. This might seem like an odd choice because the Sox won the first two. But the second win was that game where Paniagua gave up three or four runs and the Twins, thank God, ran out of time. We were sitting in center field and left the park trying to shake off a very bad feeling. The Sox looked awful the next two days, facing Santana and Radtke, and within a week it was all over. I think the memory of this one is strong because, unlike all the times when I went in not expecting much, my hopes were high for that series.

WhiteSox5187
05-14-2007, 01:29 AM
God, I hate that one.

Also, the four-game Twins series at home September 8-11, 2003. This might seem like an odd choice because the Sox won the first two. But the second win was that game where Paniagua gave up three or four runs and the Twins, thank God, ran out of time. We were sitting in center field and left the park trying to shake off a very bad feeling. The Sox looked awful the next two days, facing Santana and Radtke, and within a week it was all over. I think the memory of this one is strong because, unlike all the times when I went in not expecting much, my hopes were high for that series.
Those series against the Twins in 2003 were just heartbreaking. That series in Minnesota sickened me, I really thought we were going to win the division that year and keep the streak of making the playoffs every ten years. But I'll gladly trade that for 2005.

Nellie_Fox
05-14-2007, 01:41 AM
4/4-4/8 2001 vs. the Tigers was a great way to start the year...

7/2-7/4 04 vs. the Cubs wasn't pretty. I still remember Damaso Marte walking Todd Walker with the bases loaded in the ninth to blow that game...:tealtutor:

StillMissOzzie
05-14-2007, 01:46 AM
The 1993 ALCS vs. Toronto was not too pretty either.

SMO
:(:

FedEx227
05-14-2007, 01:48 AM
September 12-16, 2004 against Minnesota

September 12 (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/2004/B09120ANA2004.htm)
September 14 (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/2004/09142004.htm)
September 15 (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/2004/B09150MIN2004.htm)
September 16 (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/2004/B09160MIN2004.htm)

BAD!

My "favorite" game of all-time was this guy though:

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/2004/B06190MON2004.htm

Was there one day where you were more embarrassed to be a White Sox fan?


EXPOS 2ND: Cabrera singled to center; Rivera homered [Cabrera
scored]; Schneider was hit by a pitch; Armas out on a sacrifice
bunt (pitcher to first) [Schneider to second]; Wilkerson singled
to right [Schneider to third]; Wilkerson was caught stealing
second (catcher to second to first to shortstop); Carroll
walked; Munoz threw a wild pitch [Carroll to second]; Vidro
doubled to center [Schneider scored, Carroll scored]; Everett
was walked intentionally; Johnson singled to center [Vidro
scored, Everett to third]; Munoz threw a wild pitch [Johnson to
second]; Cabrera walked; Rivera homered [Everett scored, Johnson
scored, Cabrera scored]; Schneider grounded out (second to first); 9 R, 6 H, 0 E, 0 LOB. White Sox 1, Expos 10.

RadioheadRocks
05-14-2007, 01:50 AM
The 1993 ALDS vs. Toronto was not too pretty either.

SMO
:(:

I concur, but that was in fact the ALCS, since the wild card hadn't come into play yet. Had two tickets to Game 7 which took four hours of dialing in to Ticketmaster to get, and of course we all know what happened to those...

StillMissOzzie
05-14-2007, 01:52 AM
4/4-4/8 2001 vs. the Tigers was a great way to start the year...

7/2-7/4 04 vs. the Cubs wasn't pretty. I still remember Damaso Marte walking Todd Walker with the bases loaded in the ninth to blow that game...

You don't remember it well enough...that was Shingo who walked in the winning run in the bottom of the 9th. I had that game on a radio while waiting for the fireworks in my hometown to start. The radio was lucky to have survived that game. :angry:

SMO
:(: :angry:

StillMissOzzie
05-14-2007, 01:57 AM
I sorta recall one more REAL ugly game. I think that it was a game against the Angels, back when they were just the California Angels, and it was a game in Anaheim. I sort of remember that the Angels batted around TWICE in one inning, or close to it. Anyone else out there recall this? Date?

SMO
:?:

Frater Perdurabo
05-14-2007, 07:29 AM
Maybe not the worst played all around, because of the good pitching, but the most disappointing was the 2000 ALDS.

That was my answer, too. :(:

spiffie
05-14-2007, 10:48 AM
July 8-10, 2003. The Sox had just lost 2 of 3 in Tampa Bay, including the Billy Koch meltdown with the 3 run home run to Carl Crawford on July 4th. Then they go up to Detroit to play a team that would finish with a 43-119 record and proceed to get swept. The Sox threw Garland, Colon, and Loaiza against Spurling, Bonderman, and Cornejo and scored a total of 3 runs over the 3 games. Loaiza suffered one of the two 1-0 losses that probably kept him from the Cy Young. Just a terrible series, and those 5 of 6 losses to the basement dwellers in that stretch certainly didn't help them when the Twins got hot in Sept. and the Sox tried to hang on.

stl_sox_fan
05-14-2007, 12:11 PM
2001, June 15-17.
Sox were rolling through the NL Central during inter league play and I had bleacher seats for all three games against the Cardinals. End result, swept.
Only bright side was catching Magglio's home run Friday night. My apologies to the lady I bumped into.
Interesting note, Dustin Hermanson started one of those games for the Cards.

Think I was the only Sox fan in attendance as I was drawing heckles from everyone. My only ally was a Cubs fan.

stl_sox_fan
05-14-2007, 12:16 PM
You don't remember it well enough...that was Shingo who walked in the winning run in the bottom of the 9th. I had that game on a radio while waiting for the fireworks in my hometown to start. The radio was lucky to have survived that game. :angry:

SMO
:(: :angry:

It was Marte on the 4th of July. Shingo took the loss though. Damaso came in and faced one batter.

jdm2662
05-14-2007, 12:22 PM
2001, June 15-17.
Sox were rolling through the NL Central during inter league play and I had bleacher seats for all three games against the Cardinals. End result, swept.
Only bright side was catching Magglio's home run Friday night. My apologies to the lady I bumped into.
Interesting note, Dustin Hermanson started one of those games for the Cards.

Think I was the only Sox fan in attendance as I was drawing heckles from everyone. My only ally was a Cubs fan.

Nope, there were more of us. I went to all three of those games, and had two friends with me those three games. On Sat, we had my friend's wife and her two friends. Pretty bad series. The only highlight was seeing David Wells fat ass on first base. We were insisting on putting the steal sign on...

gobears1987
05-14-2007, 01:27 PM
Agreed. The Yankee series ended Foulke's career as a closer with the Sox. The July 2004 series against the Twins is my vote.ditto

I was at the first game of that series where Radke just embarrassed the Sox. Buehrle didn't look too good either. Torii Hunter also ran over Burke.

That ended the 2004 season.

WhiteSox5187
05-14-2007, 01:31 PM
ditto

I was at the first game of that series where Radke just embarrassed the Sox. Buehrle didn't look too good either. Torii Hunter also ran over Burke.

That ended the 2004 season.
I still think getting swept at Wrigley ended the 2004 season for us, but this was really the final nail in the coffin.

Scottiehaswheels
05-14-2007, 01:34 PM
Honestly I would have to say the series in Oakland last September... If we could have taken 2 of 3 there we wouldn't have been quite as lifeless and could have made a last minute push at the end to overtake the Tigers or Twins, and from there???? Problem is we looked as anemic, bullpen pitching/hitting, wise as I have ever seen us during that series... I knew the season was over after that....

1917
05-14-2007, 01:35 PM
The dark cloud on that beautiful season....every series from 8-12 to 8-31 2005...just ugly.

Dick Allen
05-14-2007, 01:45 PM
The opening series in new Comiskey against the Tigers was no thing of beauty.

balke
05-14-2007, 02:15 PM
September 16-18 2003 at Minnesota. If you don't know what happened these three games, I don't think you're a Sox fan.

I agree, it seems like the series we lose to the Twins are always the most painful. The most embarassing was being swept by the Tigers that same season. 8 of the 43 wins by one of the worst teams in baseball history came against the Sox who failed to reach the playoffs by 4 games.

gobears1987
05-14-2007, 02:23 PM
I still think getting swept at Wrigley ended the 2004 season for us, but this was really the final nail in the coffin.
We were only a half game out when that late July series against the Twinkies started. That embarrassment led to a 7 game slide.Losing in Wrigley was embarrassing, but was by no means the end of the season.

gobears1987
05-14-2007, 02:27 PM
http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/2004/B06190MON2004.htm

Was there one day where you were more embarrassed to be a White Sox fan?
We almost pulled it off too. I was at a Railcats game during that one and was bored by the Railcats. I just went into the giftshop where I could watch the game.

gobears1987
05-14-2007, 02:29 PM
July 8-10, 2003. The Sox had just lost 2 of 3 in Tampa Bay, including the Billy Koch meltdown with the 3 run home run to Carl Crawford on July 4th. Then they go up to Detroit to play a team that would finish with a 43-119 record and proceed to get swept. The Sox threw Garland, Colon, and Loaiza against Spurling, Bonderman, and Cornejo and scored a total of 3 runs over the 3 games. Loaiza suffered one of the two 1-0 losses that probably kept him from the Cy Young. Just a terrible series, and those 5 of 6 losses to the basement dwellers in that stretch certainly didn't help them when the Twins got hot in Sept. and the Sox tried to hang on.The Tampa Bay series where we lost 2 of 3 was also bad. IIRC, it snapped an 8 game win streak. If we had won 10 in a row, Hawk was going to shave his head.

FedEx227
05-14-2007, 02:32 PM
The Tampa Bay series where we lost 2 of 3 was also bad. IIRC, it snapped an 8 game win streak. If we had won 10 in a row, Hawk was going to shave his head.

Was that the one in Tampa? I believe I was there, one of the games was ended by Thomas attempting to go from 1st to home and get tagged out at the plate. Only he didn't slide, or barrel over the catcher he just kinda stopped.

rdivaldi
05-14-2007, 03:33 PM
I don't have the exact dates, but the June 1998 Crosstown sweep at the Shrine. I actually went to the Sunday game and had to leave it was so painful.

Edit - June 5-7, '98
From retrosheet:
Game Played on Sunday, June 7, 1998 (D) at Wrigley Field

CHI A (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1998/TCHA01998.htm) 1 0 0 1 0 0 5 0 0 - 7 11 0
CHI N (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1998/TCHN01998.htm) 5 0 3 2 3 0 0 0 x - 13 14 0

I went to two of those games that weekend, what an embarrassment and definitely gets my vote as the worst series I have ever seen them play in person.

balke
05-14-2007, 04:07 PM
Its funny how easy it is to remember the bad. If you disbar postseason games and postseason clinching games, It would be much harder for me to pick out the greatest series we've ever had. Although I think in 05' we had a couple early 4 game sweeps of tough teams. This team has come from behind so many times in the past 3 seasons its amazing. I know we also had a great Cub whooping not too long ago when C-lee was on the team back when I cared about the inter-city rivalry.

1917
05-14-2007, 05:35 PM
Its funny how easy it is to remember the bad. If you disbar postseason games and postseason clinching games, It would be much harder for me to pick out the greatest series we've ever had. Although I think in 05' we had a couple early 4 game sweeps of tough teams. This team has come from behind so many times in the past 3 seasons its amazing. I know we also had a great Cub whooping not too long ago when C-lee was on the team back when I cared about the inter-city rivalry.

Outside the 2005 season, the best stretch I can remember was 2000 when we took 4 from New York and 3 from CLE for a 7 game sweep to really get us rolling

chisoxfan79
05-14-2007, 07:08 PM
In light of being reminded of the Sox's 19-0 loss at the hands of the Angels in 2002 the other day, what was the worst series you have seen the Sox play? I'm not talking about just a "bad" series, I'm talking about the Sox just getting absolutely clobbered. The worst one I can remember was in an interleague series against the Braves in 2002 when the White Sox got absolutely DEMOLISHED.

Any others?
The series you were talking about against the Braves is one I remember because I was there for all three games, there are many series against the Twins the last 6 years, many in Oakland the last Six years other than that I really can not remember the Sox getting clobbered for an entire series.

ChiSoxIn06
05-14-2007, 10:37 PM
i believe it was in 05 when we played arizona at home and just got destroyed every game of the series...i think we gave up over 10 runs in each game

JB98
05-14-2007, 10:46 PM
i believe it was in 05 when we played arizona at home and just got destroyed every game of the series...i think we gave up over 10 runs in each game

False. We won the third game of the series.

SOXBOY
05-14-2007, 10:49 PM
The home series agaisnt the Expos were the Sox lost 2 of 3. I think the Sox only scored like 4-5 runs the whole series.

chisoxfanatic
05-14-2007, 11:51 PM
i believe it was in 05 when we played arizona at home and just got destroyed every game of the series...i think we gave up over 10 runs in each game

I was at the first game of that series and had this OBNOXIOUS 4- or 5-year-old who was yelling for EVERY good play the D'Backs made in that game. He was wearing a D'Backs jersey. The rest of his group was wearing Sox gear. I wondered how he got to be that way.

False. We won the third game of the series.

Correct. We scored 10 runs one inning in that game as well.

balke
05-15-2007, 12:05 AM
The home series agaisnt the Expos were the Sox lost 2 of 3. I think the Sox only scored like 4-5 runs the whole series.

I remember the worst single loss I can remember, the Expos came back to beat the Sox like 18-16 when the Sox had a HUGE lead. That's when they had C-Lee, Maggs, Hurt, Konerko, Valentin, Crede, Olivo, Everett, Alomar. Thunderous lineup.

MISoxfan
05-15-2007, 12:30 AM
It was Marte on the 4th of July. Shingo took the loss though. Damaso came in and faced one batter.

I remember that night. Partying at a friends house with only 2 of us inside watching that game, me and one Cubs fan. They wanted to light the fireworks, but we kept making them wait. I think Lee hit a home run in the top of the ninth to tie it (or maybe give us the lead?) and then we blew it with a walked in run in the bottom.

WhiteSoxJunkie
05-15-2007, 01:06 AM
I'll never forget the scene in the Sox dugout after that 03 sweep in the Metrodome. Twins fans cheering, Sox players sitting there stunned knowing the season was over, Hawk and DJ silent...just sad.

gobears1987
05-15-2007, 01:11 AM
I remember the worst single loss I can remember, the Expos came back to beat the Sox like 18-16 when the Sox had a HUGE lead. That's when they had C-Lee, Maggs, Hurt, Konerko, Valentin, Crede, Olivo, Everett, Alomar. Thunderous lineup.
The game I remember with a huge score was one where the Sox actually gave the Expos a huge lead. Arnie Munoz gave up 9 earned in 3 innings and the pen gave up almost as much.

FedEx227
05-15-2007, 01:11 AM
The game I remember with a huge score was one where the Sox actually gave the Expos a huge lead. Arnie Munoz gave up 9 earned in 3 innings and the pen gave up almost as much.

I posted the box score a couple of pages up. Do yourself a favor and read the score breakdown, it was amazing.

WhiteSox5187
05-15-2007, 01:14 AM
We were only a half game out when that late July series against the Twinkies started. That embarrassment led to a 7 game slide.Losing in Wrigley was embarrassing, but was by no means the end of the season.
That's true...but once we lost Hurt and Mags, the writing was on the wall.

stl_sox_fan
05-15-2007, 08:42 AM
The game I remember with a huge score was one where the Sox actually gave the Expos a huge lead. Arnie Munoz gave up 9 earned in 3 innings and the pen gave up almost as much.

I remember watching that game just expecting the Sox to come back and win it. Munoz. Ha! Just another one of the 5th Starter/Hydra experiment of '04. How many different pitchers did they try at the 5th spot that year? I remember Cotts getting a start.

1917
05-15-2007, 10:13 AM
I remember watching that game just expecting the Sox to come back and win it. Munoz. Ha! Just another one of the 5th Starter/Hydra experiment of '04. How many different pitchers did they try at the 5th spot that year? I remember Cotts getting a start.

04? Man, I'll give it a whirl,

Cotts
Munoz
Rausch
Diaz
Stewart
Grilli
Wright

Don't forget Shoenweiss, who was our #4 until we got Freddy, then we traded Loaiza for Jose.

thomas35forever
05-15-2007, 11:53 PM
Two in '04 - versus the Twins in late July and the series at Wrigley.