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Baby Fisk
05-10-2007, 03:47 PM
Tommy John surgery. See you in 2008, B.J.

linky (http://toronto.bluejays.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070510&content_id=1956919&vkey=news_tor&fext=.jsp&c_id=tor)

MUsoxfan
05-10-2007, 03:49 PM
I picked the Jays to win the East this year.....:unsure:

The Immigrant
05-10-2007, 03:59 PM
5 years, $47 million.

How in the world does J.P. Ricciardi still have a job?

FedEx227
05-10-2007, 04:20 PM
I always thought that violent delivery would catch up with him. It appears it has. Yeah, pretty bad contract to give to a closer, no matter how good he is.

gobears1987
05-10-2007, 04:25 PM
I always thought that violent delivery would catch up with him. It appears it has. Yeah, pretty bad contract to give to a closer, no matter how good he is.That contract is especially bad when you consider most closers don't last long. See Keith Foulke, Billy Koch, Shingo Takatsu, etc.

I see nothing wrong with Bobby right now, but a year or two down the road he may have issues. It's just the way things go with closers.

FedEx227
05-10-2007, 05:02 PM
That contract is especially bad when you consider most closers don't last long. See Keith Foulke, Billy Koch, Shingo Takatsu, etc.

I see nothing wrong with Bobby right now, but a year or two down the road he may have issues. It's just the way things go with closers.

I wouldn't give a closer any long contracts not only for physical issues, but like you said mental issues. Look at Derrick Turnbow, unhittable in 2005, a wreck in 2006, now good in setup. On the other side, Fransisco Cordero great in 2005, awful first half of 2006, great again. Closers are way too up and down so its almost impossible to predict them from year to year.

Dan the Man
05-10-2007, 05:05 PM
This is the reason why guys like Mariano, Hoffman, Wagner, and Nathan are so valuable. They can be extremely effective with good mechanics. I still don't know how K-Rod doesn't get hurt.

FedEx227
05-10-2007, 07:01 PM
K-Rod has pretty decent mechanics, he just looks like an idiot doing it. There is nothing violent about his release its just the fact that he gets the ball out much quicker then many people are use to see. It's something that seems to be a focal point of the Angels organization. Look at K-Rod, Turnbow and even Jenks they all have pretty quick deliveries.

With that being said, having 80% of your pitches be sliders is probably going to get him sooner or later.

Brian26
05-10-2007, 08:48 PM
5 years, $47 million.

How in the world does J.P. Ricciardi still have a job?

:dumbash
"Because no matter how bad he is, I was worse."

ComiskeyBrewer
05-11-2007, 02:16 AM
I wouldn't give a closer any long contracts not only for physical issues, but like you said mental issues. Look at Derrick Turnbow, unhittable in 2005, a wreck in 2006, now good in setup. On the other side, Fransisco Cordero great in 2005, awful first half of 2006, great again. Closers are way too up and down so its almost impossible to predict them from year to year.

To be fair, Turnbow was excellent in the first 1/2 of the season last year(making the all star roster), but was putrid the 2nd half. However i fully agree with you.

ComiskeyBrewer
05-11-2007, 02:17 AM
:dumbash
"Because no matter how bad he is, I was worse."

Yea, he's a good assistant GM, but i wouldn't want him running the show.

Fenway
05-11-2007, 08:22 AM
Something is going to happen in TO shortly. Last night the crowd was 80% Boston fans ( I suspect Buffalo-Ottawa hockey was the reason )

US Customs was caught flatfooted at the Lewistown Bridge when the Bostonians were heading home as it took an hour to go thru. It was heavy traffic all the way back on the Thruway :angry:

palehozenychicty
05-11-2007, 08:42 AM
Well, maybe now we can swindle them for Alex Rios. :D:

Baby Fisk
05-11-2007, 06:23 PM
The horror continues: Roy Halladay placed on the DL today with acute appendicitis. Expected to miss 4-6 weeks. Rogers Centre is barren tonite.

Baby Fisk
05-11-2007, 06:34 PM
...aaaand Troy Glaus just left the game in the first inning. He limped off the field nursing his hamstring after running out a flyball. Mercy!

DumpJerry
05-11-2007, 06:36 PM
Maybe Kenny has a throwaway AA pitcher or two to offer for their DH......

GoGoOzzie
05-11-2007, 07:01 PM
Maybe Kenny has a throwaway AA pitcher or two to offer for their DH......




:hawk

"But where's he gonna play?!?"

Fenway
05-11-2007, 07:37 PM
Locusts swarming @ Skydome as Halladay goes on the DL

INSox56
05-11-2007, 09:48 PM
I feel bad for KC (every year cuz they suck so so bad consistently) and the Jays. I don't often feel bad for competitors or their fans, but man....I don't think things could get worse. A major pull or tear in that hamstring and Glaus is done for quite a while. No Halladay for a month and a half? No closer? Eesh....I'll still feel bad when we get Rios.