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paciorek1983
05-09-2007, 08:25 PM
Here ya go



http://www.beloitdailynews.com/articles/2007/05/08/sports/sports07.txt

rdwj
05-09-2007, 08:30 PM
That just about says it all.

lostfan
05-09-2007, 10:44 PM
What's wrong with what he's saying? He's not bashing Wrigley. He's telling the truth. It's badly, badly in need of renovation. That's been true for years and years now.

DrCrawdad
05-09-2007, 10:49 PM
Here ya go



http://www.beloitdailynews.com/articles/2007/05/08/sports/sports07.txt



Spot on, spot on.

paciorek1983
05-09-2007, 11:30 PM
What's wrong with what he's saying? He's not bashing Wrigley. He's telling the truth. It's badly, badly in need of renovation. That's been true for years and years now.


Nothing is wrong with what he is saying at all. I agree with it. If I could have made the headline in teal, I would have. But I also figured tis might get my thread some attention.:wink:

DeadMoney
05-10-2007, 04:35 AM
I was at Wrigley two nights ago for the 15-inning game against the Pirates. It was my first game at Wrigley in about 4 or 5 years (both experiences in the bleachers), and I was sort of impressed with the changes they made to that area of the park. I can't speak for the rest of the park, but in the outfield, it actually isn't half-bad out there now.

Now, I wouldn't trade it for what The Cell has, and Wrigley still has some problems in the bleacher area (concerning amenities), but it wasn't so bad that it left me with a terrible impression (and this is from someone who's been to quite a few different stadiums). Though, if only they could do something about those drunken idiots that seemed to be everywhere, and have no idea what is going on (that stereotype rang true). As for ranking it against other parks I've been to, I'd say it's above Shea, Yankee, the Metrodome, and probably tied with Oakland Coliseum and Fenway. Which leaves about 15 others that I have above it.

Soxfanspcu11
05-10-2007, 05:06 AM
The article itself really doesn't say anything that pretty much all of us don't already know, It wasn't a bad article, but it wasn't terribly good either.

The main issue that I had with the article was the fact that the writer has only been to 5 ballparks. 5 ballparks?? I'm sorry, but if you have only been to 5 ballparks, you really should not be writing an article in which you are discussing and comparing The Urinal to any other field.

Also, he seems to have been to stadiums throughout the Midwest. Twice in Milwaukee, Detoilet, Minnesota and The Urinal. Yet throughout all of this he has not been to Comiskey/US Cellular?!?!?! How the crap is that?!?!?!

The Sox make it VERY EASY for ANYONE to attend at least ONE game!!! Half-price Monday's, Two-For-One Tuesdays, etc. The fact that he has been to pretty much every stadium in and around the Midwest except for Comiskey makes me a little pissed! I mean seriously!!! How could you NOT have attended a game at Comiskey when you have gone to all of these other stadiums?!?!?! Makes no sense to me.

I was just at the Urinal on 4-20-07. Scrubs vs. St. Louis. Don't worry, I didn't pay for my tickets, they were free through my job. I took my friend, who is a flubs fan. I proudly wore my Sox gear.

I did have a good time, in spite of what I thought. It was a beautiful day and we had great seats. The game was fun and believe it or not, I actually had a few intelligent conversations with diehard flubs fans. The only part that kind of sucked was that after a controversial call at 2nd base in which Pinella came out to argue (was the correct call by the way), the bleacher losers pelted the field with garbage.

Now, this is the 2nd time in a row in which I have seen this at the urinal. Granted I have not been there since 7-1-06 (AJ HITS BACK GAME) but still, I can not believe that the flubs brass allows this crap to go on!

ONE TIME AND DONE! That's what it SHOULD be! If you don't like a call or the result of a play, you may BOO all you want, but throwing crap on the field is just unacceptable.

Alright, I could go on and on, but I don't want to waste mine or you guys time.

Anyway, my conclusion is that this guy should visit some more stadiums before he writes articles about stadiums. Personally, I have been to 24 major league stadiums and have seen plenty of good and bad. Comiskey is still the best though!:D:

wdelaney72
05-10-2007, 09:47 AM
He explained what many of us know as "the truth" very well. I will disagree with 2 points, though.
1) I'm a fan of the trough. Call me old-school.
2) He said "the location is great". No... it's not. The "location" is absolutely horrible to drive to and there's no parking. The location is fun and a great place to live and party, but logistically it's a royal pain in the ass.

Fenway
05-10-2007, 09:57 AM
As for ranking it against other parks I've been to, I'd say it's above Shea, Yankee, the Metrodome, and probably tied with Oakland Coliseum and Fenway. Which leaves about 15 others that I have above it.

Fenway is a lot better than it was in 2001....at least they are trying.

Oakland is just terrible.

ComiskeyBrewer
05-10-2007, 01:20 PM
, “Here's the game, we've got hot dogs. Good luck finding them. Oh, and I hope you like Old Style.”


:D: I laughed really hard at this quote. Great article.

DumpJerry
05-10-2007, 02:41 PM
Yet throughout all of this he has not been to Comiskey/US Cellular?!?!?! How the crap is that?!?!?!
He only goes if the Brewers are playing. That is obvious.

I posted a reply (not showing up yet) on it taking that one idiot to task who says the concessions at Comiskey "look out on the street" and are situated like The Urinal's.

ComiskeyBrewer
05-10-2007, 03:03 PM
He only goes if the Brewers are playing. That is obvious.

I posted a reply (not showing up yet) on it taking that one idiot to task who says the concessions at Comiskey "look out on the street" and are situated like The Urinal's.

Yea, dude's a Brewers fan.

Blind Lemon 5103
05-10-2007, 10:21 PM
As I mentioned in the "Cub fan stereotypes" thread, I finally went to "the shrine" today with my Cub fan friend.

I haven't been in the place in seven years, and to be honest, it wasn't in as bad a condition as I expected it to be.

Yes, there were a large number of the stereotypical "frat boy" types, to go along with many attractive young women. However, my section wasn't too bad. A few older folks, and some others who were actually paying attention to the game. I was in the field boxes down the left field line.

I quietly rooted for the Pirates and behaved myself. Overall, it wasn't a bad time. Beats work, I guess.

All that said, I much prefer being at the Cell with Sox fans. I did feel a little bit out of my element, but had a good time. The best part? A 6-4 Pirates victory.

And now that I've fulfilled my obligation to my Cub fan friend (who is quite critical, rational and realistic about the team), he will now accompany me to the Sox-Yankees game next week. Seems fair to me.

WSox597
05-11-2007, 10:24 AM
I've been at Wrigley twice, both times in 1966. I was more interested in seeing Mays and Marichal play than looking at the ballpark, but I don't remember much other than how small it is.

I wasn't really impressed, otherwise. I don't imagine the following 40+ years have been too kind to the place.

My father was a Cub fan, and was trying to convert me. It didn't take, sorry Dad.

Iwritecode
05-11-2007, 10:33 AM
1) I'm a fan of the trough. Call me old-school.


It's also very unsanitary. I'm not a germ-freak but that's pretty nasty.

It's also not to code. The only reason they are allowed to keep it is because they were "grandfathered" in.

Fenway
05-12-2007, 12:36 PM
only park in baseball without a replay board

IndianWhiteSox
05-12-2007, 01:05 PM
only park in baseball without a replay board

:wills

"Who needs a replay board when Wrigley Field is a shrine."

MarySwiss
05-12-2007, 02:36 PM
I thoroughly enjoyed reading that article.

Fenway
05-12-2007, 02:40 PM
People compare Fenway and Wrigley all the time

All I can say is Fenway on the outside doesn't look like the Cook County Jail

comerica
05-12-2007, 02:44 PM
I'm going to visit a friend in Chicago in July and plan on going to Wrigley. I'm pretty excited about this since the only places I have ever watched baseball are Tiger Stadium and Comerica Park(well, also Lakeland for spring training).

What I'm wondering is, what are the chances of me being killed by falling debris whilst there? And when you say it's in bad shape, do you mean compared to the Cell or do you mean Shea stadium bad?

The friend I'm visiting said that when she first went there she was most shocked by how tiny it seemed compared to Comerica

IndianWhiteSox
05-12-2007, 02:48 PM
I'm going to visit a friend in Chicago in July and plan on going to Wrigley. I'm pretty excited about this since the only places I have ever watched baseball are Tiger Stadium and Comerica Park(well, also Lakeland for spring training).

What I'm wondering is, what are the chances of me being killed by falling debris whilst there? And when you say it's in bad shape, do you mean compared to the Cell or do you mean Shea stadium bad?

The friend I'm visiting said that when she first went there she was most shocked by how tiny it seemed compared to Comerica

Worse than Shea Stadium.

comerica
05-12-2007, 03:05 PM
Worse than Shea Stadium.

ouch. Oh well, there's not many of those old parks left so I'm still excited to see a game there.

IndianWhiteSox
05-12-2007, 03:08 PM
ouch. Oh well, there's not many of those old parks left so I'm still excited to see a game there.

After you go to the game in the shrine, you might want to take a shower and bleach your clothes.

comerica
05-12-2007, 03:14 PM
After you go to the game in the shrine, you might want to take a shower and bleach your clothes.

:D:I'll keep that in mind. then again, I remember what Tiger Stadium was like near the end.*









*and to even one-up that, I've spent considerable time in that neighborhood since the stadium closed. I was only shot at once.

Fenway
05-12-2007, 03:14 PM
Wrigley Field being demolished (http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics28/00048991.jpg)

sadly it was the one in Los Angeles which many of you know from Home Run Derby

IndianWhiteSox
05-12-2007, 03:47 PM
:D:I'll keep that in mind. then again, I remember what Tiger Stadium was like near the end.*









*and to even one-up that, I've spent considerable time in that neighborhood since the stadium closed. I was only shot at once.

:o:

But if that was a joke, just use teal next time.
:roflmao::roflmao:

Wrigley Field being demolished (http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics28/00048991.jpg)

sadly it was the one in Los Angeles which many of you know from Home Run Derby

A sign of the times I guess.
:(:

comerica
05-12-2007, 03:53 PM
:o:

But if that was a joke, just use teal next time.



it was only half a joke. he didn't shoot AT me. but did fire a warning shot over my head. Since the stadium closed, that area(corktown) has suffered pretty bad. I used to be a club promoter and we did events down there. The nice thing was that we could stay open as late as we wanted, serving alcohol until dawn if need be. The bad part was that the closest thing to a police presence if you really needed them there was to appeal to the bikers that ran the bar.

tebman
05-12-2007, 04:06 PM
Wrigley Field's problem is that it's 90 years old. Because it had structural and safe-exit problems (plus the fact that the Tribune wanted to add more seats), the bleachers were rebuilt from the ground up a couple of years ago. The upper deck still has the falling-concrete problem that the big nets were installed to catch.

We joke about the smell, but that's because there's too many people in too little space using too few bathrooms for too many years. The ailes are narrow, the seats are cramped and the sightlines are not good since they shoehorned syboxes under the upper deck about 15 years ago.

All this "shrine" mythology comes from a combination of clever marketing and changing neighborhood demographics. The vines on the outfield walls are the main focal point of the place -- a touch of public-relations genius by a young Bill Veeck in the 1930s. It's an old, tired ballpark that has evolved into an enormous singles bar. If you're going for the first time, you'll enjoy yourself as long as you're lucky enough to sit next to some baseball fans instead of frat boys and tourists. Otherwise you'll leave the game shaking your head wondering what all the fuss was about.

Fenway
05-12-2007, 04:11 PM
it was only half a joke. he didn't shoot AT me. but did fire a warning shot over my head. Since the stadium closed, that area(corktown) has suffered pretty bad. I used to be a club promoter and we did events down there. The nice thing was that we could stay open as late as we wanted, serving alcohol until dawn if need be. The bad part was that the closest thing to a police presence if you really needed them there was to appeal to the bikers that ran the bar.

When I was at Tiger Stadium last year the only sign of human life was the cab company garage. The bar across from the front gates has seen better days.

Have they decided to do anything yet? I know they were planning on tearing it down but I haven't heard that they had started yet.

vegyrex
05-12-2007, 04:16 PM
What I'm wondering is, what are the chances of me being killed by falling debris whilst there?


Very high.

Make sure your health, life, and long term care insurance are paid up. :wink:

MarySwiss
05-12-2007, 04:18 PM
Tebman and others nailed it. Whenever I think about Wrigley--and I try not to do that too often!--the first thing that comes to mind is the smell. The combination of bad hot dogs, spilled beer, and urine does not, IMO, enhance the experience. In other words, that's not what "fun at the old ballpark" is supposed to be.

Plus, you're watching the Cubs play.

Fenway
05-12-2007, 04:35 PM
Jerry Remy on NESN in June of 2005

Beautiful Wrigley Field, are you kidding me? This place is a pig sty. It smells like the Weston landfill. Much dirtier than Yankee Stadium. I am very disappointed

ComiskeyBrewer
05-12-2007, 05:07 PM
It's also very unsanitary. I'm not a germ-freak but that's pretty nasty.

It's also not to code. The only reason they are allowed to keep it is because they were "grandfathered" in.

It wouldn't be a problem if they atleast used ice, or something to clean it out. The Drip system made me almost vomit the first time i went there.

DumpJerry
05-12-2007, 05:24 PM
What I'm wondering is, what are the chances of me being killed by falling debris whilst there?

65.76%

After you go to the game in the shrine, you might want to take a shower and bleach your clothes.

Whenever friends from out-of-town come here and tell me they want to go there, I tell them I don't do there, so they are on their own. I then tell them to go straight to their hotel room afterwards, take a scalding hot shower with abrasive laundry soap until they are bleeding. Then burn their clothes and burn the ashes of their clothes and then send the ashes of the ashes to a nuclear waste dump. Then they should put on clean clothes and meet me for dinner.

It's also very unsanitary. I'm not a germ-freak but that's pretty nasty.

It's also not to code. The only reason they are allowed to keep it is because they were "grandfathered" in.

If they renovate the bathrooms, the new bathroooms will have be up to code.:rolleyes:

comerica
05-12-2007, 06:45 PM
When I was at Tiger Stadium last year the only sign of human life was the cab company garage. The bar across from the front gates has seen better days.

Have they decided to do anything yet? I know they were planning on tearing it down but I haven't heard that they had started yet.

the most promising plan was tearing it down to build lofts while maintaining the field itself in the middle. will they do it? who knows. Detroit city politics are ridiculously stupid and slow, not to mention corrupt as hell(at least we have that in common). There has been plan after plan for the spot that gains initial support and then just disappears. I wouldn't be surprised if they just left it there until it collapsed on its own. hell, here's an idea right off the top of my head, make it into a museum/baseball themed casino. The casinos are about the only things consistantly making money around here.

Daver
05-12-2007, 06:56 PM
http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/daver/wrigley3.jpg

comerica
05-12-2007, 08:40 PM
All of your warnings just make me want to go more. your descriptions remind me of tiger stadium:smile:

Nellie_Fox
05-13-2007, 01:51 AM
the most promising plan was tearing it down to build lofts while maintaining the field itself in the middle. will they do it? who knows. Detroit city politics are ridiculously stupid and slow, not to mention corrupt as hell(at least we have that in common). There has been plan after plan for the spot that gains initial support and then just disappears. I wouldn't be surprised if they just left it there until it collapsed on its own. hell, here's an idea right off the top of my head, make it into a museum/baseball themed casino. The casinos are about the only things consistantly making money around here.
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