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Lip Man 1
05-05-2007, 01:49 PM
Gary Peters is back in the news again, (you'll see his name a lot this month) and the "anniversary" of perhaps the longest home run ever hit in the major leagues...

May 6, 1903 - The White Sox are charged with 12 errors in a game in Chicago vs. Detroit. While thatís a big story in itself, itís not the most remarkable item to come out of this game. Thatís the fact that the Sox won the game 10 - 9!!!

May 6, 1963 - Making an emergency start in Kansas City, Sox pitcher Gary Peters hits the first of his 19 career home runs. It comes in the 3rd inning off Ted Bowsfield. Peters would toss eight innings allowing one run in the Sox 5 - 1 win. It was the first win in 1963 for Gary whoíd go on to collect 19 of them and win Co-Rookie Of The Year honors with teammate Pete Ward. Peters is also the franchise leader in most home runs hit by a pitcher with 15, three more then Jack Harshman. (Peters talks about how he got the start, his home run and memories of the 1963 season in his interview with White Sox Interactive.) Gary replaced Juan Pizarro who was sick that evening.

May 6, 1964 - Dave Nicholson hits what may have been the longest home run in MLB history.

On this night in the 5th inning, in the first game of a twin bill versus the Aís, Nicholson blasted a shot off Moe Drabowski that went over the roof and was found across the street in Armour Square. Some Sox fans claim they heard the ball hit the top of the roof but White Sox officials say when they found the ball it had no signs of tar on it nor was it scuffed. Nicholsonís shot went over the roof around the 375 foot sign in left center field. It was found 135 feet from the base of the wall. Plus you have to add in the elevation needed to get the ball over the roof.

Unofficial estimates place the drive as traveling 573 feet eclipsing Mickey Mantleís shot in Griffith Stadium in 1956. That shot went an unofficial 565 feet. For the night Dave would hammer three home runs and drive in five RBIís.

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Lip

DumpJerry
05-05-2007, 03:44 PM
May 6, 1964 - Dave Nicholson hits what may have been the longest home run in MLB history.

On this night in the 5th inning, in the first game of a twin bill versus the Aís, Nicholson blasted a shot off Moe Drabowski that went over the roof and was found across the street in Armour Square. Some Sox fans claim they heard the ball hit the top of the roof but White Sox officials say when they found the ball it had no signs of tar on it nor was it scuffed. Nicholsonís shot went over the roof around the 375 foot sign in left center field. It was found 135 feet from the base of the wall. Plus you have to add in the elevation needed to get the ball over the roof.

Unofficial estimates place the drive as traveling 573 feet eclipsing Mickey Mantleís shot in Griffith Stadium in 1956. That shot went an unofficial 565 feet. For the night Dave would hammer three home runs and drive in five RBIís.

Lip
:LTP
Wimp!

Brian26
05-05-2007, 04:08 PM
Wimp!

Actually Mantle and Nicholson's homers are estimated to be much longer. If I recall correctly, Borchard's was only 500-ft.

What's left to be determined (and probably never will be) is how accurate the accounts of those two homers were. I can't believe Nicholson's homer would have traveled 570+ feet on the fly, no matter what the Sox said back then. That's over 1.5 football fields. A lot of guys can't even hit a golfball that far.

TommyJohn
05-05-2007, 05:53 PM
May 6, 1964 - Dave Nicholson hits what may have been the longest home run in MLB history.

On this night in the 5th inning, in the first game of a twin bill versus the Aís, Nicholson blasted a shot off Moe Drabowski that went over the roof and was found across the street in Armour Square. Some Sox fans claim they heard the ball hit the top of the roof but White Sox officials say when they found the ball it had no signs of tar on it nor was it scuffed. Nicholsonís shot went over the roof around the 375 foot sign in left center field. It was found 135 feet from the base of the wall. Plus you have to add in the elevation needed to get the ball over the roof.

Unofficial estimates place the drive as traveling 573 feet eclipsing Mickey Mantleís shot in Griffith Stadium in 1956. That shot went an unofficial 565 feet. For the night Dave would hammer three home runs and drive in five RBIís.

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Lip

One thing about the Nicholson story has always bugged me. It is said that
some fans said they "heard" the ball hit the roof. Assuming that the crowd
of several thousand was roaring and cheering when they saw the ball go
out, how the hell could anybody have "heard" a small white ball hit the roof
over that din of noise? I was in the upper deck in left the night both
Carlton Fisk and Ron Kittle parked home runs onto the roof and believe me,
I did not hear either ball hit the roof over the huge roar of the crowd.

IndianWhiteSox
05-05-2007, 08:39 PM
Actually Mantle and Nicholson's homers are estimated to be much longer. If I recall correctly, Borchard's was only 500-ft.

What's left to be determined (and probably never will be) is how accurate the accounts of those two homers were. I can't believe Nicholson's homer would have traveled 570+ feet on the fly, no matter what the Sox said back then. That's over 1.5 football fields. A lot of guys can't even hit a golfball that far.

I think Borchard's was 512 feet.

Brian26
05-05-2007, 08:45 PM
Actually Mantle and Nicholson's homers are estimated to be much longer. If I recall correctly, Borchard's was only 500-ft.

I guess I was four feet off. Official distance was 504'

MLB.com story (http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:UqqqNcSj5SoJ:chicago.whitesox.mlb.c om/NASApp/mlb/cws/news/cws_news.jsp%3Fymd%3D20040830%26content_id%3D84270 8%26vkey%3Dnews_cws%26fext%3D.jsp+longest+homeruns +us+cellular&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us)


Sitting on Myers' 94-mph opening offering, Borchard launched a titanic shot to right-center that easily cleared the bleachers and landed halfway up the concourse. A 12-year-old fan from Chicago emerged with the baseball, dropping his 'Icee' to catch the carom off the back wall. After the game, the young fan traded the 504-foot home run ball for a Borchard autographed baseball.

ilsox7
05-05-2007, 09:02 PM
I guess I was four feet off. Official distance was 504'

MLB.com story (http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:UqqqNcSj5SoJ:chicago.whitesox.mlb.c om/NASApp/mlb/cws/news/cws_news.jsp%3Fymd%3D20040830%26content_id%3D84270 8%26vkey%3Dnews_cws%26fext%3D.jsp+longest+homeruns +us+cellular&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us)

That fan made an awful trade.

Brian26
05-05-2007, 09:10 PM
That fan made an awful trade.

Which trade?

Trading the homerun ball for the autographed ball?

Or dropping the Icee for the homerun ball? :D:

ilsox7
05-05-2007, 09:11 PM
Which trade?

Trading the homerun ball for the autographed ball?

Or dropping the Icee for the homerun ball? :D:

Both!

Lip Man 1
05-06-2007, 02:08 PM
Brian:

I don't think anyone, even the Sox officials felt the ball traveled all that distance "on the fly." All long home runs that leave a stadium, roll along for at least some of the distance but that's still considered part of 'the tale of the tape.'

Lip