View Full Version : The Bases are Loaded, We're down a few runs, and your White Sox 3b is up to bat...
05-01-2007, 06:23 PM
The question is,
would you rather see Robin Ventura or Joe Crede up there? (either at their prime).
These guys are what make the White Sox for me. Great gloves, Clutch hitters. We saw Crede in the playoffs, (for me, the MVP.. especially if Rowand had just ran when Crede hit the wall in game 4). Robin had sooo many grandslams, including that magical non-slam for the Mets in the playoffs.
In the end, I love both of these players.. and it might just have to come down to an Ozzie style pitching matchup. (Righty or Lefty pitching).
05-01-2007, 06:48 PM
Give me Robin. He was a star for more then a year and a half, and was the man with the Bases Loaded. Now a diving catch down the 3b line with the game on the line, that is where the real choice would be.
05-01-2007, 06:49 PM
Now a diving catch down the 3b line with the game on the line, that is where the real choice would be.
With the defense, I have to go with Crede. Robin was an outstanding defender, but with Joe, I'm shocked when a ball is hit his way and he doesn't make the play, regardless of how improbable such a play would be.
05-01-2007, 07:10 PM
05-01-2007, 07:26 PM
Why isnt Chris Snopek an option?
05-01-2007, 07:26 PM
what's he got like 20 Grand slams in his career? RV for the win.
05-01-2007, 07:36 PM
I think I like Robin given the situation - despite what my signature says.
05-01-2007, 08:00 PM
I'm a sentimental fool, so I've got to go with Ventura. Whenever I think of Robin, I think of 2-run doubles.
I always felt confident with Ventura at bat in a situation like that. :yup:
05-01-2007, 09:25 PM
Whew. Couldn't go wrong with either of them. Now, if it was prior to Ventura's ankle break, I'd go with Robin (you did say prime, I don't know if you still consider RV in his prime after the ankle injury) but I wouldn't be any less confident if Joe was in there.
05-01-2007, 09:43 PM
I know I sound a little biased here, as Robin is my favorite baseball player of all-time; however, if it weren't for Frank, he'd be considered Mr. Clutch on the team for a great portion of his stay here. Not that Crede doesn't get key hits. Robin just got more of them.
05-01-2007, 10:48 PM
No Poll with this thread?? I'd have to say Robin. He is the greatest 3B in White Sox history and IMO he should have his #23 retired.:angry:
05-01-2007, 11:43 PM
A big at-bat, both at their best? I don't see any question. Ventura. Defense didn't enter into the question.
05-01-2007, 11:43 PM
05-02-2007, 01:48 AM
Here's the rundown by the numbers:
Robin Ventura: .340, 1.14 RBI/AB, .228 K/AB, 1.046 OPS
Joe Crede: .338, .88 RBI/AB, .103 K/AB, .898 OPS
Mystery Player: .336, 1.12 RBI/AB, .212 K/AB, 1.094 OPS
2 Outs, Runners in Scoring Position
Robin Ventura: .247, .343 RBI/AB, .784 OPS
Joe Crede: .279, .343 RBI/AB, .801 OPS
Mystery Player: .274, .395 RBI/AB, .877 OPS
Late & Close
Robin Ventura: .238, .137 RBI/AB, .715 OPS
Joe Crede: .293, .164 RBI/AB, .857 OPS
Mystery Player: .277, .186 RBI/AB, .888 OPS
Robin flat knocks in some runs when the bases are loaded, although Crede is pretty clutch given his performance with 2 outs/RISP and Late & Close situations. The mystery player, for comparison, is A-Rod.
05-02-2007, 01:53 AM
05-02-2007, 08:10 AM
Robin. Most definitely.
05-02-2007, 08:11 AM
Joe! Crede! Yes!
05-02-2007, 08:15 AM
Robin for me.
05-02-2007, 12:33 PM
05-02-2007, 06:11 PM
Oh come on, don't pick on Robin!
The question wasn't who you want as backup in a fistfight, as I'd take neither and go with Podsednik, wrestling Michael "I'm into mixed Martial Arts" Barrett to the ground with a freakin' armbar!
05-02-2007, 07:16 PM
Seriously though, since Ventura was crazy with the bases loaded, I'd take him over Crede. You can't go wrong with picking Joe though.
Tough choice. They are/were both great clutch hitters. I'll take Robin. His track record was longer.
05-03-2007, 10:42 AM
Tough decision. Joe is clutch. Robin is GS King.
I would go with Joe though. I don't know why.
05-03-2007, 11:26 AM
Robin by a mile. Years and years of consistancy.
05-03-2007, 12:38 PM
its close. but ill go with Ventura
05-05-2007, 12:24 AM
Whichever one has been hotter. Seriously, I can't decide.
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