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balke
04-29-2007, 09:28 AM
Did these guys get better working together, or am I just adapting?


I've been watching some other teams games (Cards, Cubs, Espn & Fox broadcasts) and outside of an occassional good ESPN or Fox announced game, I really just don't like watching a game as much as I do with the Hawk announcing.

Here's one thing I noticed: A lot of other announcers won't talk up the other team. If they do its just A-Rod or just Vlad, etc. Just the obvious great player, and they don't get in-depth, they just say he's great and he'll break such and such record.

Every game now the Sox announcers will say something where I learn who does what for the other team. What player kills the Sox, and occasionally why a pitcher is so great, or what flaw a batter has in his swing. They turn into homers when the Sox hit a homer, and they get excited when they are about to score, but they rarely get on the Umps or talk about bad pitches for K's (With the exception of the game ending ball last night v. Uribe, but even then they didn't whine).

Have they gotten better working together where its not just silence, golf stories, and put it on the board? Cause lately I really enjoy the broadcasts, and I'm someone who used to hate having DJ on the mic. Maybe they just seem better by comparison with Steve Stone gone from WGN, and the Cards announcers always being boring.

viagracat
04-29-2007, 09:33 AM
Harrelson has always been Harrelson, but DJ seems to be getting more comfortable in the booth. I've always liked their work, and they're sure as hell better than Farmio and Singleton on the radio.

Cellview22
04-29-2007, 11:08 AM
I've always enjoyed Hawk and DJ, but it does seem like they're getting along better than usual this season, and they're having fun together in the booth. I only have 1 pet-peeve w/ their broadcast, and it's only a minor one. Whenever they have guests on, DJ does it alone and does a stand-up interview in a side booth. I wish they'd have the guests sit down with them in their usual seats, and both would talk with the guest while sitting down and watching the game.

DickAllen72
04-29-2007, 11:44 AM
DJ is good but Hawk has got to go.

He just keeps saying the same things and telling the same stories over and over like a senile old man (think Grandpa Simpson) and every pitcher we face is going to be impossible to hit if he keeps getting his breaking ball over, or he keeps changing speeds, or he keeps pitching inside, etc. He hardly ever actually announces the game in progress, rather he's repeating the same old stories or cliches while the game is on.

Even though DJ does well when he's partnered with Hawk, do you ever notice that DJ does much much better when he's with Blackjack or on the Fox telecasts? Hawk brings DJ down and his act has become old and stale. Not to mention that he can't judge a fly ball anymore.

ilsox7
04-29-2007, 11:51 AM
Hawk and DJ have been pretty bad this year. DJ is a train wreck that cannot be saved. Hawk is just going insane I think.

JermaineDye05
04-29-2007, 11:55 AM
why do so many people on this board hate Hawk? I for one love listening to his stories even if it means listening to the same ones almost every game. He's also really funny to listen to when somethings not going right for the Sox, "Dag Gummit!", "That is total BS!". I can't imagine a game without Hawk in the booth, but if he were to be replaced by anyone I hope it's Black Jack he knows what he's doing up there.

ilsox7
04-29-2007, 12:17 PM
why do so many people on this board hate Hawk? I for one love listening to his stories even if it means listening to the same ones almost every game. He's also really funny to listen to when somethings not going right for the Sox, "Dag Gummit!", "That is total BS!". I can't imagine a game without Hawk in the booth, but if he were to be replaced by anyone I hope it's Black Jack he knows what he's doing up there.

Hawk isn't that bad when the Sox are going well, IMO. But when they are not, he is awful. His act gets very old very fast when the Sox are not playing well.

4th Gen. Sox Fan
04-29-2007, 12:41 PM
Hawk isn't that bad when the Sox are going well, IMO. But when they are not, he is awful. His act gets very old very fast when the Sox are not playing well.
He usually gets real quite and DJ ends up doing both the play by play and color by himself

ilsox7
04-29-2007, 12:42 PM
He usually gets real quite and DJ ends up doing both the play by play and color by himself

It depends. That happens, but other times he just tells random stories and doesn't pay attention to the game.

PaulDrake
04-29-2007, 12:55 PM
DJ is good Better than he used to be. Better when not paired with Hawk. Good? No.

cnw8052
04-29-2007, 02:06 PM
Bring back Wimpy.....

JB98
04-29-2007, 08:37 PM
Hawk isn't that bad when the Sox are going well, IMO. But when they are not, he is awful. His act gets very old very fast when the Sox are not playing well.

I'd have to agree. Hawk is pretty good when the Sox are going well, because his passion for the team shines through. But when the team is going bad, he becomes an excuse-maker and an apologist for the players. When I have a bad day at work, no one makes an excuse for me, so I just don't like listening to that garbage.

MCHSoxFan
04-29-2007, 08:52 PM
Did these guys get better working together, or am I just adapting?


I've been watching some other teams games (Cards, Cubs, Espn & Fox broadcasts) and outside of an occassional good ESPN or Fox announced game, I really just don't like watching a game as much as I do with the Hawk announcing.

Here's one thing I noticed: A lot of other announcers won't talk up the other team. If they do its just A-Rod or just Vlad, etc. Just the obvious great player, and they don't get in-depth, they just say he's great and he'll break such and such record.

Every game now the Sox announcers will say something where I learn who does what for the other team. What player kills the Sox, and occasionally why a pitcher is so great, or what flaw a batter has in his swing. They turn into homers when the Sox hit a homer, and they get excited when they are about to score, but they rarely get on the Umps or talk about bad pitches for K's (With the exception of the game ending ball last night v. Uribe, but even then they didn't whine).

Have they gotten better working together where its not just silence, golf stories, and put it on the board? Cause lately I really enjoy the broadcasts, and I'm someone who used to hate having DJ on the mic. Maybe they just seem better by comparison with Steve Stone gone from WGN, and the Cards announcers always being boring.

I agree. I always learn something either about a past Sox team or the visting team. Have you ever noticed that in the 5-7 innings, DJ is doing ALL of the calling in those innings? Hawk comes back in the 8th inning

cbotnyse
04-29-2007, 08:53 PM
Hawk and DJ are great. I hope they stay put for awhile.

shoelessshaun27!
04-29-2007, 09:01 PM
All Hawk talks about is how well him and Don Drysdale played together when in reality Hawk never played with him but they did announce together for a season. Also when the Sox are doing bad it almost seems that Hawk has left the building. I like Hawk alot though. He does have alot of great calls, phrases like "HE GONE" YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARD" "YES". DJ is alright but Hawk is great.

Brian26
04-29-2007, 09:24 PM
All Hawk talks about is how well him and Don Drysdale played together when in reality Hawk never played with him but they did announce together for a season.

I've been listening/watching Harrelson sine 1982, and he's never once claimed to have played with Don Drysdale.

Drysdale and Hawk announced together for almost four years, from 1982 to the end of 1985. Hawk left booth at the end of the '85 season to become GM.

Chiwhisox6155
04-30-2007, 09:44 AM
Hawk is an institution; while he may be slipping, he's been around long enough and done enough for this franchise that he should be able to leave on his own terms. Though has anyone else noticed that what I presume are his bathroom breaks are becoming longer and more frequent?

oldcomiskey
04-30-2007, 09:55 AM
All Hawk talks about is how well him and Don Drysdale played together when in reality Hawk never played with him but they did announce together for a season. Also when the Sox are doing bad it almost seems that Hawk has left the building. I like Hawk alot though. He does have alot of great calls, phrases like "HE GONE" YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARD" "YES". DJ is alright but Hawk is great.

Ive never heard him mention him playing against Drysdale and Ive seen almost Sox game for the last few years. Elaborate please.

Cuck_The_Fubs
04-30-2007, 10:35 AM
Honestly, I really don't care that much about their announcing skills. I'm indifferent to it, as a matter of fact. However, what really bugs me is the fact that Hawk/ DJ always talk about how great their career was (indirectly, you can hint they were exaggerating a lot), when in reality, Hawk batted .240, and DJ was like .220. They always talk a big-game about it, and I wish they would stop!

HITMEN OF 77
04-30-2007, 12:23 PM
Honestly, I really don't care that much about their announcing skills. I'm indifferent to it, as a matter of fact. However, what really bugs me is the fact that Hawk/ DJ always talk about how great their career was (indirectly, you can hint they were exaggerating a lot), when in reality, Hawk batted .240, and DJ was like .220. They always talk a big-game about it, and I wish they would stop!

Um....Hawk was AL player of the year in 1968, AL Comeback player of the year in 1968 and All Star and helped propel the "other" Sox to the World Series in 1967. He had a few good season before a career ending injury.

twsoxfan5
04-30-2007, 03:05 PM
Honestly, I really don't care that much about their announcing skills. I'm indifferent to it, as a matter of fact. However, what really bugs me is the fact that Hawk/ DJ always talk about how great their career was (indirectly, you can hint they were exaggerating a lot), when in reality, Hawk batted .240, and DJ was like .220. They always talk a big-game about it, and I wish they would stop!

Really? I seem to notice that DJ is always very humble about his career and seems to make fun of himself more than anything else. There are times when he talks about the successes he had, but I think more often than not he talks about how difficult a time he had in the majors.

rdwj
04-30-2007, 03:12 PM
Really? I seem to notice that DJ is always very humble about his career and seems to make fun of himself more than anything else.

He does. He boasts sarcastically now and then, but it seems that some have a problem detecting that. Perhaps he should start saying 'teal' before sarcasm from now on.

HotelWhiteSox
04-30-2007, 03:12 PM
Too repetitive. From 'we beat ourselves' a million times, to 'weather' and 'the toughest April schedule I've ever seen' this past month. It blows more when the repetitiveness is just excuses.

It's Dankerific
04-30-2007, 03:24 PM
When I watch Hawk and DJ in a row a few times, it certainly gets old. I am among the people who loved watching Black Jack in the booth.

HOWEVER, I have to watch most of the games on DirecTv. I also had to watch the local broadcast of the Angels/Sox games. When you compare it to the other broadcasts out there, you get a REAL APPRECIATION for Hawk and DJ in the booth, no matter their flaws. I mean, one of the guys who announces for the Angels doesn't even have a good command of the ENGLISH language (at least pronouncing it in a way that doesn't make you want to hurt yourself.) I literally watched half of one game with it muted.. its that bad.

Hawk and DJ : The best of lowered expectations.

DMBSOXFAN
04-30-2007, 03:44 PM
I only have 1 pet-peeve w/ their broadcast, and it's only a minor one. Whenever they have guests on, DJ does it alone and does a stand-up interview in a side booth. I wish they'd have the guests sit down with them in their usual seats, and both would talk with the guest while sitting down and watching the game.

I agree, but it doesn't happen too often so it's no that big of a deal.

ilsox7
04-30-2007, 03:52 PM
When I watch Hawk and DJ in a row a few times, it certainly gets old. I am among the people who loved watching Black Jack in the booth.

HOWEVER, I have to watch most of the games on DirecTv. I also had to watch the local broadcast of the Angels/Sox games. When you compare it to the other broadcasts out there, you get a REAL APPRECIATION for Hawk and DJ in the booth, no matter their flaws. I mean, one of the guys who announces for the Angels doesn't even have a good command of the ENGLISH language (at least pronouncing it in a way that doesn't make you want to hurt yourself.) I literally watched half of one game with it muted.. its that bad.

Hawk and DJ : The best of lowered expectations.

DJ has no command of language nor does he know the definitions of most words.

Uncle_Patrick
04-30-2007, 03:57 PM
Harrelson has always been Harrelson, but DJ seems to be getting more comfortable in the booth. I've always liked their work, and they're sure as hell better than Farmio and Singleton on the radio.
I enjoy Hawk and DJ.

I think Farmer and Singleton are getting better. Singleton is still very much a work in progress, but I think he's improved greatly from this time last year.

thomas35forever
04-30-2007, 03:59 PM
Hawk and DJ have been together since the beginning of the decade. If they haven't improved in that much time, one or both of 'em would've been out long ago. Besides, it's calm listening to them and you get to hear the sounds of the park when they're silent.

TomBradley72
04-30-2007, 04:01 PM
why do so many people on this board hate Hawk?

A few of the daily occurrances at WSI:

Brian Anderson debates (I guess those will move to the minors forum now)
Aaron Rowand comments
Brandon McCarthy comments
Hawks is great/Hawk sucks commentsFormer daily occurrances:

Green seat/blue seat discussions
Attendance discussions
Ballpark renovation discussions
No respect from local/national media

oldcomiskey
05-01-2007, 12:25 PM
Too repetitive. From 'we beat ourselves' a million times, to 'weather' and 'the toughest April schedule I've ever seen' this past month. It blows more when the repetitiveness is just excuses.

theres a difference in excuses and reasons

tick53
05-02-2007, 06:54 PM
Bring back Wimpy.....

You bet, Jackson blows! I've been listening to Hawk since the beginning and if he were to retire, I probably wouldn't cry too much. I've been hearing the "Hawkisms" forever. I've always like the guy but I've heard every story. Let's piss off the Cubs fans and hire Grace and Sutcliffe. Again, Darrin Jackson can't analyze a traffic light.

Jurr
05-02-2007, 07:05 PM
Hawk is an institution; while he may be slipping, he's been around long enough and done enough for this franchise that he should be able to leave on his own terms. Though has anyone else noticed that what I presume are his bathroom breaks are becoming longer and more frequent?
I wonder if Hawk's still a smoker. If he still is, then it makes a lot of sense. If I smoked, this team would be driving me to the ashtray quite a bit.

Brian26
05-02-2007, 08:40 PM
Let's piss off the Cubs fans and hire Grace and Sutcliffe.

Hiring Grace and Sutcliffe would piss off more Sox fans than Cub fans.

Secondly, I doubt Cub fans would care anyway.