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veeter
04-27-2007, 12:13 PM
We all have our guys we really loathe on other teams. I can't stand Craig Monroe, Carlos Guillen and Eric Chavez. And it's not even necessarily because they kill us, it's... just because. Who on the Sox do you think is hated by Twin, Indian, Tiger or any fan of another team? My pick is Uribe. I can see his unorthodox style really bugging some people. I'd love to hear what others think.

Mr.1Dog
04-27-2007, 12:17 PM
:AJ: No love?

jenn2080
04-27-2007, 12:20 PM
Aj

JGarlandrules20
04-27-2007, 12:24 PM
Mark Buehrle...

Chicken Dinner
04-27-2007, 12:24 PM
Timo

joebro25
04-27-2007, 12:26 PM
A.J. and Thome

Dan Mega
04-27-2007, 12:30 PM
AJ just for how the media has portrayed him.

Past unfavorites include Carl Everett, Jose Canseco, Albert Belle, Ron Kittle, Bobby Thigpen (my grandma hated him for some reason), Frank Thomas....there are probably more that I can't remember.

rdwj
04-27-2007, 12:31 PM
:AJ:

No contest

gobears1987
04-27-2007, 12:33 PM
:walkoff:

Any questions?

skottyj242
04-27-2007, 12:33 PM
:AJ:

No contest

When me and my pumpkey went to Cleveland he almost got as lound of boos as Thome.

gobears1987
04-27-2007, 12:34 PM
AJ just for how the media has portrayed him.

Past unfavorites include Carl Everett, Jose Canseco, Albert Belle, Ron Kittle, Bobby Thigpen (my grandma hated him for some reason), Frank Thomas....there are probably more that I can't remember.

Jamie Navarro, oh, you mean players hated by the fans of teams other than the White Sox.:D:

my5thbench
04-27-2007, 12:36 PM
Dick Allen had his enemies............some thought Jungle Jim Rivera was nuts,

they may have been right , but boy was he fun, my Dad used to hang out

with him

MUsoxfan
04-27-2007, 12:37 PM
:AJ:

No contest


This man gets booed globally. Everyone but his family, friends and 1/2 of a major city boo him:redneck

Mr.1Dog
04-27-2007, 12:37 PM
Ozzie is probably hated as well for the way he talks to the media.

gobears1987
04-27-2007, 12:38 PM
This man gets booed globally. Everyone but his family, friends and 1/2 of a major city boo him:redneckWhen he was on the Twinkies, I booed him all the time.

MUsoxfan
04-27-2007, 12:44 PM
When he was on the Twinkies, I booed him all the time.


So did I. I hated him and Mientkiewicz equally. But now Mientkiewicz is irrelevant

Over By There
04-27-2007, 12:46 PM
No doubt AJ. And that's why I rock the #12 jersey. :cool:

MeteorsSox4367
04-27-2007, 12:46 PM
Pierzynski, for sure. I'll admit I wasn't crazy about him when he was with Minnesota. Now, however, he and Buehrle are my favorite Sox.

twentywontowin
04-27-2007, 12:53 PM
AJ is hated so much, he boos himself.

Carl Everett was always a guy people didn't like, but he's always been a favorite of mine.

PorkChopExpress
04-27-2007, 12:53 PM
AJ's the obvious answer since he bets booed everywhere now. But what about Crede? He has the most homers in Comerica as an opponent, so I doubt the Tigers have much love for him. And he always seemed to hit the killer homer against the Indians over the past couple of years, so I doubt they care to see him up either. Not to mention all the possible runs he has stolen from teams with his stellar defense.

itsnotrequired
04-27-2007, 12:57 PM
This man gets booed globally. Everyone but his family, friends and 1/2 of a major city boo him:redneck

I remember a quote from Ozzie last year where he said AJ got booed at home as well.:tongue:

sageofthesox
04-27-2007, 01:00 PM
I nominate the mild-mannered Joe Crede. He's produced many a clutch hit in the late innings; Sunday's eighth inning HR at Detroit is the most recent example.

Hard as this may be, imagine yourself being a rabid fan of another team. You've got a lead over the White Sox late in the game and can smell the win. Konerko, Thome and Dye have had what you hope are their last at-bats. Then Joe Crede ruins your day with a clutch hit in the eighth and a stellar play at third in the ninth.

minutia
04-27-2007, 01:53 PM
I would have to say A.J. too in recent history. When I was a kid I would imagine that Ron Kittle and Carlton Fisk where not well received.

As far as who on another team I hate now, that would be Grady Sizemore hands down.

MUsoxfan
04-27-2007, 01:54 PM
As far as who on another team I hate now, that would be Grady Sizemore hands down.

I can't hate him. I hate when he comes to the plate against the Sox, but I love the way he plays

chitownhawkfan
04-27-2007, 01:57 PM
It has to be AJ, outside of Barroid he might be the most hated man in baseball. I went to a game in Oakland and the whole crowd came to their feet and booed when he was announced. What did he do to warrant that in Oakland (I know he played a season with the Giants but cmon).

I think it was either AJ or Ozzie who said the doctors booed him when he was delivered.

Chez
04-27-2007, 02:01 PM
A.J, A.J and A.J. are your top 3. Maybe Jenks too? He can be somewhat demonstrative after closing out a game which is sure to rub other teams' fans the wrong way.

Rowandws33
04-27-2007, 02:12 PM
after going to the Detroit series last weekend i can say for sure Uribe and AJ are really hated....

Oblong
04-27-2007, 02:52 PM
Well, as a Tiger fan, let me answer for you. :D:

With Crede, it's more a question of "What is it with this guy???" It's puzzlement more than hate.

I hated, hated, hated Thome when he was with Cleveland but as he moved on and got older, it turned into admiration. Especially after reading about what a good guy he his. So, no hate for Jim from me.

Uribe is spot on because it seems like I've seen him get a few clutch hits. He just bugs me.

The AJ stuff is a cliche now. I can't hate him because I know if he were a Tiger he'd probably run for mayor and win. No Detroit fan who has cheered for Chris Chelios can honestly say they'd not root or cheer for Pierzynski.

Chez
04-27-2007, 02:59 PM
The AJ stuff is a cliche now. I can't hate him because I know if he were a Tiger he'd probably run for mayor and win. No Detroit fan who has cheered for Chris Chelios can honestly say they'd not root or cheer for Pierzynski.

Chicago fans embraced Dennis Rodman, Bob Probert and even Albert Belle who were all despised before they arrived in to play in Chicago.

twsoxfan5
04-27-2007, 03:19 PM
It has to be AJ and I love it. They always play the clip from the halfway to St Pats game where he hits the homerun, grabs the top of the bat, and basically throws it overhand at the Indians visitor dug-out. Everytime I see that I think what a jerk, but I can't help but smile.

Soxworldchamps
04-27-2007, 03:23 PM
It has to be AJ, outside of Barroid he might be the most hated man in baseball. I went to a game in Oakland and the whole crowd came to their feet and booed when he was announced. What did he do to warrant that in Oakland (I know he played a season with the Giants but cmon).

I think it was either AJ or Ozzie who said the doctors booed him when he was delivered.

"As White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen often jokes, the doctor booed Pierzynski when he was born."

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070419&content_id=1919629&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws

It's a pretty funny report for those who haven't read it.

skobabe8
04-27-2007, 03:36 PM
EASILY A.J.

And I love peoples responses when I ask why they hate him so much:

Me: "Why do you hate A.J. so much?"
Non Sox Fan: "Because he's a jerk."
Me: "What makes him a jerk?"
NSF: "I don't know. He just is. Didn't you hate him when he was with Minnesota?"
Me: "Yes."
NSF: "Well, why did you hate him then?"
Me: "Because he always did something that beat us."

And thats exactly why I bought his jersey last year.

StillMissOzzie
04-28-2007, 01:01 AM
It has to be AJ and I love it. They always play the clip from the halfway to St Pats game where he hits the homerun, grabs the top of the bat, and basically throws it overhand at the Indians visitor dug-out. Everytime I see that I think what a jerk, but I can't help but smile.

This is clearly a race for 2nd place, AJ appears to be a runaway winner.

I wish someone would make a YouTube clip of the at-bat you just described, along with the at-bat from last year's Turn Back The Clock game vs. the Dodgers. Both featured some stylish "in your face" bat tosses. Then add AJ plowing into Barrett from last year's Sox/Cubs game. Good stuff!

SMO
:gulp:

Berkules
04-28-2007, 01:06 AM
But why do you hate Chavy (as he's so commonly referred to here in the bay are)...he's probably the least clutch, greates defensive infielder of all time.

Anyway, the answer is hands down Pierzynski...no doubt. I hated him when he was with the Twins, then indifferent when he was with the Giants, but every player in the league will admit that he's the best guy to have in the dugout. Him and Eric Byrnes are the two hardest playin mothas in the league.



Go Bulls. Golden State/Chicago would just make my day. Go Bulls.

HomeFish
04-28-2007, 01:11 AM
But why do you hate Chavy (as he's so commonly referred to here in the bay are)...he's probably the least clutch, greates defensive infielder of all time.

Back in early 2005, there was a rumor going around that Eric Chavez was available on the trade market. This sparked a massive debate at this website over whether the Sox should try to get Chavez (and therefore give up Crede, either to Oakland or as part of a 3-way trade). There was an extremely vicious debate between people who thought that Crede was overrated and Chavez was the answer, and people who thought that Chavez was overrated and Crede was the answer.

I personally was pro-Chavez, and would still take him over Crede any day of the week. IMO, Chavez is behind only A-Rod when it comes to AL third basemen. But a lot of the hardcore Joe Crede fans, they see any respect for Eric Chavez as an attack on Joe Crede, and I suspect that the hatred stems from that, rather than for anything Chavez does on the field.

RadioheadRocks
04-28-2007, 01:13 AM
Aside from AJ (who's booed everywhere), I'll go with Jim Thome, solely by the way those pricks in Cleveland continue to boo the living hell out of him whenever the Sox are at The Jake.

DrewSox56
04-28-2007, 01:28 AM
Uribe. He looks like a gorilla swatting flies when he swings and despite those hacks, is hitting more consistently than most.

That must be infuriating.

Berkules
04-28-2007, 01:47 AM
Back in early 2005, there was a rumor going around that Eric Chavez was available on the trade market. This sparked a massive debate at this website over whether the Sox should try to get Chavez (and therefore give up Crede, either to Oakland or as part of a 3-way trade). There was an extremely vicious debate between people who thought that Crede was overrated and Chavez was the answer, and people who thought that Chavez was overrated and Crede was the answer.

I personally was pro-Chavez, and would still take him over Crede any day of the week. IMO, Chavez is behind only A-Rod when it comes to AL third basemen. But a lot of the hardcore Joe Crede fans, they see any respect for Eric Chavez as an attack on Joe Crede, and I suspect that the hatred stems from that, rather than for anything Chavez does on the field.

Very interesting..I never heard anything about that over here on the west coast and I was in Berkeley. I'm wondering if it was just a Chicago rumor or had you heard it on ESPN?

I like the A's (not over the White Sox in any matter or form) but, despite Chavez's defensive skills, which I think are superior to ARod's at third, he is a decent, at best, hitter. I know there were years when we questioned Crede's bat but I feel like, despite being the second best, if not best, third baseman in the AL, spoke for itself in the 05 playoffs and that isn't even a question anymore.

Back to topic...do most Sox fans (Chi-centric) dislike Chavez because of this alleged trade rumor?

IlliniSox4Life
04-28-2007, 02:31 AM
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"We all have our guys we really loathe on other teams. I can't stand Craig Monroe, Carlos Guillen and Eric Chavez. And it's not even necessarily because they kill us, it's... just because. Who on the Sox do you think is hated by Twin, Indian, Tiger or any fan of another team? My pick is Uribe. I can see his unorthodox style really bugging some people. I'd love to hear what others think."

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Berkules
04-28-2007, 02:36 AM
i think i just peed myself.

that was hilarious.

Zisk77
04-28-2007, 07:11 AM
Very interesting..I never heard anything about that over here on the west coast and I was in Berkeley. I'm wondering if it was just a Chicago rumor or had you heard it on ESPN?

I like the A's (not over the White Sox in any matter or form) but, despite Chavez's defensive skills, which I think are superior to ARod's at third, he is a decent, at best, hitter. I know there were years when we questioned Crede's bat but I feel like, despite being the second best, if not best, third baseman in the AL, spoke for itself in the 05 playoffs and that isn't even a question anymore.

Back to topic...do most Sox fans (Chi-centric) dislike Chavez because of this alleged trade rumor?


No, I think its because many Sox fans feel Joe and not Chavez should have one at least one gold glove in the the last 2 years.

wassagstdu
04-28-2007, 07:29 AM
:threadsucks

It's a sport, a game.

tick53
04-28-2007, 08:01 AM
AJ definetly. I hated him as a Twin also but at the same time, admired him. My new Twin that I hate is Morneau:angry:

Berkules
04-28-2007, 03:26 PM
No, I think its because many Sox fans feel Joe and not Chavez should have one at least one gold glove in the the last 2 years.

There's no doubt in my mind Joe should've won one of the years...and I have an inkling that it's his THIS year.

MarySwiss
04-28-2007, 03:38 PM
Well, as a Tiger fan, let me answer for you. :D:

With Crede, it's more a question of "What is it with this guy???" It's puzzlement more than hate.

I hated, hated, hated Thome when he was with Cleveland but as he moved on and got older, it turned into admiration. Especially after reading about what a good guy he his. So, no hate for Jim from me.

Uribe is spot on because it seems like I've seen him get a few clutch hits. He just bugs me.

The AJ stuff is a cliche now. I can't hate him because I know if he were a Tiger he'd probably run for mayor and win. No Detroit fan who has cheered for Chris Chelios can honestly say they'd not root or cheer for Pierzynski.

Hey, Oblong; good to see ya!

To me, the obvious answer is that fans of other teams naturally would hate AJ. But I have guys I cannot stand, and I'm not sure why. On the Tigers, Brandon Inge, for example, bugs the hell out of me--but I like Granderson. And of course, as an earlier poster said, the Twinkies' Morneau is detestable on general principles--as are the Twinkies. And Aaron Boone was always up near the top of my "Yecchh!" list. (Is he still in the majors, anyone?)

ChiSox14305635
04-28-2007, 04:40 PM
It has to be AJ, outside of Barroid he might be the most hated man in baseball. I went to a game in Oakland and the whole crowd came to their feet and booed when he was announced. What did he do to warrant that in Oakland (I know he played a season with the Giants but cmon).

AJ hit a 2 run shot in the 9th inning of Game 5 of the ALDS off of Billy Koch and Oakland back in 2002.

Oblong
04-28-2007, 05:29 PM
I consider myself a knowledable baseball fan and I never really knew of this AJ stuff until the Barret thing last year. What are the controversies? Only thing I could find was the incident with the trainers in SF.

Cuck_The_Fubs
04-28-2007, 05:34 PM
I consider myself a knowledable baseball fan and I never really knew of this AJ stuff until the Barret thing last year. What are the controversies? Only thing I could find was the incident with the trainers in SF.
To be brutally honest, I don't understand either. It's probably because he's a hard-nosed gamer, and always seems to come in the clutch. He would be respected by any other team that has him, but when he's your opponent, you hate his guts.

Dolanski
04-28-2007, 06:40 PM
Jack Parkman.

"Parkman doing his little shimmy...it makes the women here in Chicago puke."

MarySwiss
04-29-2007, 02:00 AM
I consider myself a knowledable baseball fan and I never really knew of this AJ stuff until the Barret thing last year. What are the controversies? Only thing I could find was the incident with the trainers in SF.

To be brutally honest, I don't understand either. It's probably because he's a hard-nosed gamer, and always seems to come in the clutch. He would be respected by any other team that has him, but when he's your opponent, you hate his guts.

Well, it's not like I know him or anything, but the past two years, I've made a practice of going down to Tucson to watch the Saturday workout right before the Spring games start. It's really fun, the whole team's there, and there are usually not that many people there--50-60, maybe a hundred at most.

Both times, AJ seemed to be one of the guys who was having the most fun. And the other guys seem to get along great with him. Also, he's great with the fans; very accommodating and approachable. I think a lot of the "bad guy" stuff is for show. Maybe he's angling for a career after baseball.

viagracat
04-29-2007, 09:15 AM
Chicago fans embraced Dennis Rodman, Bob Probert and even Albert Belle who were all despised before they arrived in to play in Chicago.

I don't remember Belle exactly being "embraced" here even after he joined the Sox. He didn't do anything to endear himself to the fans. Probert was said to be a nice guy off the ice. Rodman, of course, will always be known for his outrageous behavior which by itself won him a lot of support, but also got my respect for how hard he played on the court. Belle just didn't seem to care about anything.

Of course, Belle played when the Sox were mostly down-and-out in Chicago. Had he played in 2005 and actually smiled once or twice, it might've been different.

But any guy who regularly steps up, gets it done and is not shy about it will be hated by some of the other team's fans.

oeo
04-29-2007, 10:29 AM
Mark Buehrle...

Buehrle, Konerko, and Thome are actually the guys that opposing teams' fans like, that I've found.

esbrechtel
04-29-2007, 11:47 AM
i know oblong said they don't hate Crede....but i have heard Detriot fans call him Satan.....

kitekrazy
04-29-2007, 01:18 PM
Chicago fans embraced Dennis Rodman, Bob Probert and even Albert Belle who were all despised before they arrived in to play in Chicago.

Sosa is hated by both sides of Chicago.

MarySwiss
04-29-2007, 01:58 PM
Sosa is hated by both sides of Chicago.

Good point.

There's something else both Sox and Cubs fans can agree on as well. I was out at a bar last night with two girlfriends for a nightcap after seeing an Arlo Guthrie concert. I was rocking my Konerko road jersey with the WS patch, and there was a guy in the bar wearing a Cub hat. So he and I started exchanging friendly little jabs--and then one of my friends brought up the fact that she's a Yankee fan. (I knew this--it almost got her killed by me during the Yanks/D'Backs series--but it had slipped my mind.) Anyway, this Cub fan and I turned on her like a couple of ravenous wolves and ripped the Yankees to shreds!

As the Cub-fan guy rightly pointed out, there are Yankee fans--and then there's everybody else! :D:

Pods4455
04-29-2007, 02:08 PM
AJ just for how the media has portrayed him.

Past unfavorites include Carl Everett, Jose Canseco, Albert Belle, Ron Kittle, Bobby Thigpen (my grandma hated him for some reason), Frank Thomas....there are probably more that I can't remember.

LOL no way! It has very little to do with the media. I know so many present and past players who have played with this guy who HATE him.. and the majority of the people who do hate him can't pin-point an exact reason.. they just say he's JUST an *******.He expects so much from other people but wont give himself. One player even replied "i want to stab that guy in the neck" when I asked about him. LOL

The Racehorse
04-29-2007, 02:24 PM
Back in '96 & '97, Tony Phillips seemed to irritate opposing teams and their fans in a similar manner that AJ has done the last couple of seasons. I vaguely remember reading a news blurp regarding a scuffle between Phillips & some Brewer fans after a game.

Oblong
04-29-2007, 02:48 PM
i know oblong said they don't hate Crede....but i have heard Detriot fans call him Satan.....

that's a sign of respect. He honest to God kills us. 14 HR's in 38 career games in Detroit. It could be a semantics thing too.

MarySwiss
04-29-2007, 02:56 PM
LOL no way! It has very little to do with the media. I know so many present and past players who have played with this guy who HATE him.. and the majority of the people who do hate him can't pin-point an exact reason.. they just say he's JUST an *******.He expects so much from other people but wont give himself. One player even replied "i want to stab that guy in the neck" when I asked about him. LOL

Well, that's just plain crazy. AJ epitomizes the "grinder" mentality. He plays hard and if he "expects" a lot from other players, so much the better! The money these guys make, they SHOULD be playing all out. That's one of the things that made Carlton Fisk so beloved in Chicago and IMO, it's one of the reasons that AJ has become so popular with Sox fans. We respect anyone who puts it all out there.

UserNameBlank
04-29-2007, 02:57 PM
that's a sign of respect. He honest to God kills us. 14 HR's in 38 career games in Detroit. It could be a semantics thing too.
That is similar to Sox fans hating Polanco and Guillen out of respect. I don't think anyone really "hates" them. We just hate facing them.

shoelessshaun27!
04-29-2007, 06:58 PM
Frank Thomas anyone?

Patrick134
04-29-2007, 07:01 PM
Frank Thomas anyone?


Fish ain't biting. Best Sox hitter easily in my lifetime.

shoelessshaun27!
04-29-2007, 07:08 PM
I like Frank but many people don't appreciate him. He is my favorite baseball player of all time.