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Whitesox029
04-11-2007, 11:07 PM
I've been watching Sportscenter since it started. In the first half hour, they have shown Dice-K/Ichiro highlights not once...but twice...at length. Now, I know Seattle's Felix Hernandez 1-hit the Red Sox and all...but why does this need to be talked about TWICE in the first half hour?

Fenway
04-11-2007, 11:09 PM
I've been watching Sportscenter since it started. In the first half hour, they have shown Dice-K/Ichiro highlights not once...but twice...at length. Now, I know Seattle's Felix Hernandez 1-hit the Red Sox and all...but why does this need to be talked about TWICE in the first half hour?

1 They televised the game

2 see above

3 it is a BIG story considering the hype that others got

A. Cavatica
04-11-2007, 11:14 PM
I agree with Fenway, this isn't their usual provincial "Eastern" story. Not only do you have Daisuke vs Ichiro -- the baseball story of the year in Japan -- but a kid threw a 1-hitter. This is likely to be the biggest baseball story before the All-Star break.

Fenway
04-11-2007, 11:22 PM
and as near no-hitter misses go it wasn't by much ( thru the infield compared to a line hit )

It is the story tonight

JB98
04-11-2007, 11:25 PM
and as near no-hitter misses go it wasn't by much ( thru the infield compared to a line hit )

It is the story tonight

The problem is ESPN thinks the Red Sox are the story EVERY night.

DSpivack
04-11-2007, 11:41 PM
I agree with Fenway, this isn't their usual provincial "Eastern" story. Not only do you have Daisuke vs Ichiro -- the baseball story of the year in Japan -- but a kid threw a 1-hitter. This is likely to be the biggest baseball story before the All-Star break.

I found it kind of funny hardly any mention was made out of Matsuzaka facing Johjima, but I guess Ichiro was a star and Johjima wasn't. Too bad Ohjima didn't pitch, either.

Walkman
04-11-2007, 11:48 PM
Dice-K has been splattered all over the ESPN web page since before the season began. To most others it's just a japanese pitcher on a third-place team in a weak division.

Fenway
04-12-2007, 12:36 AM
Dice-K has been splattered all over the ESPN web page since before the season began. To most others it's just a japanese pitcher on a third-place team in a weak division.

best division east of the Hudson River however :tongue:

Walkman
04-12-2007, 12:56 AM
best division east of the Hudson River however :tongue:

Indeed, indeed!

JermaineDye05
04-12-2007, 07:30 AM
I found it even more bias with their top 10. 2 Yankees plays number 10 was Mientkiewicz's beautiful catch 9 was BA's..quite low IMO, and what a surprise number 1 was Jeter's catch. I'll agree Jeter's play was nice but given the situation I would say BA's was much better and more important, and frankly I thought Mientkiewicz's play was way better than Jeter's.

IlliniSox4Life
04-12-2007, 07:37 AM
Obviously ESPN has a huge eastern bias, but I don't really have that big of a problem with their coverage on this. It was a pretty big story.

JermaineDye05
04-12-2007, 07:42 AM
I think the big question is if Felix had done this against say the Devil Rays or the Blue Jays and Matsuzaka pitched the same and happened to get a ND or a win would Felix have gotten the recognition he deserved?

DumpJerry
04-12-2007, 09:09 AM
Dice-K has been splattered all over the ESPN web page since before the season began. To most others it's just a japanese pitcher on a third-place team in a weak division.
AL Central=studgods
All other MLB divisions=sacrificial lambs.

soxfan13
04-12-2007, 10:22 AM
I think the big question is if Felix had done this against say the Devil Rays or the Blue Jays and Matsuzaka pitched the same and happened to get a ND or a win would Felix have gotten the recognition he deserved?

Probably not as big, because the story of the day and night was Matsuzaka versus Ichiro. Hernandez just one upped both of them and became the bigger story of the night. If Hernandez was pitching against Tampa, like you said, there wouldnt have been the original hype of Ichiro versus Matsuzaka. I would guess Hernandez would be the lead baseball story ahead of Matsuzaka if that was the case.

Flight #24
04-12-2007, 10:25 AM
1 They televised the game

2 see above

3 it is a BIG story considering the hype that others got

To me, it's hilarious. It's a big story for ESPN because ESPN hyped it up? Whoda thunk it could work that way?:rolleyes:

And for the record, there is no debating that the AL Central is the greatest division in baseball. All other divisions have inferior potassium.:tongue:

skottyj242
04-12-2007, 10:30 AM
I loathe the Red Sox. Way to go Felix.

Chicken Dinner
04-12-2007, 11:04 AM
I thought the E in ESPN stood for Eastcoast. :?:

Jerko
04-12-2007, 11:18 AM
Great, now ESPN has a Far East bias........

soxfan13
04-12-2007, 11:22 AM
Great, now ESPN has a Far East bias........


:gulp:

maurice
04-12-2007, 01:16 PM
ESPN has been talking about Matsuzaka every day this week. They spent 20 minutes on this game 2 days before it happened. Thankfully, the underhyped King Felix upstaged them all.

Attn: ESPN -- Teams other than NY and Boston have some very good players. Stop ignoring them. (No, I don't mean Barry Bonds, but I really appreciate the fact that you show me every foul ball he hits.)

Dan Mega
04-12-2007, 01:48 PM
ESPN has been talking about Matsuzaka every day this week. They spent 20 minutes on this game 2 days before it happened. Thankfully, the underhyped King Felix upstaged them all.


If Dice K was on any other team besides the Mets, Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs, or Dodgers, they would be like "Dice-who?".

SOXPHILE
04-12-2007, 01:49 PM
ESPN's daily "to do" list:

1.) Discuss and analyze New York Yankees.
a)Talk about/show hi-lights of Derek Jeter, and marvel at how wonderful he is.

b) Talk about/show hi-lights of Alex Rodriguez, and debate if he will stay in New York/can he succeed in New York/how his most recent performance shows he can/can't stay in New York


2.) Discuss and analyze Boston Red Sox
a) Show clips of Curt Schilling
b) Show clips of and discuss how marvelous David Ortiz is.
c) Show clips of Many Ramirez, and break down his latest antics, and what they mean for the Red Sox, and baseball in general

3.) Talk about Barry Bonds

4)Talk about Dallas Cowboys
a)Analyze and discuss latest Terrel Owens incident(s)
b)debate if Wade Phillips can succeed and make the Cowboys a winner, while keeping Terrel Owens happy/in check


5.) Repeat all of the above at the top of each hour.

Jerko
04-12-2007, 02:24 PM
I gave up the other day when they deemed A-Rod's grand slam his "biggest hit as a Yankee". Whoo, you beat the Orioles in the first week. Save THAT ball.

ondafarm
04-12-2007, 03:19 PM
I found it kind of funny hardly any mention was made out of Matsuzaka facing Johjima, but I guess Ichiro was a star and Johjima wasn't. Too bad Ohjima didn't pitch, either.

Johjima was a star but not a real trend setter. Ichiro did a dozen things which makes him unique and I can only name one other Japanese of whom I would say that, Tokugawa Iyesu and he couldn't hit shootoh either.

oeo
04-12-2007, 03:31 PM
and as near no-hitter misses go it wasn't by much ( thru the infield compared to a line hit )

It is the story tonight

Even so, they didn't need to spend 10 out of the 20 minutes on BBTN talking about it. They flew through every other game highlight because they had to talk half the time about this game when I already saw it about 10 times on SportsCenter. Maybe it's a big story in Japan...but honestly, I don't think most people care about it here. :dunno:

chitownhawkfan
04-12-2007, 04:11 PM
To me, it's hilarious. It's a big story for ESPN because ESPN hyped it up? Whoda thunk it could work that way?:rolleyes:



Its just another example of ESPN wagging the Dog. It is important because everyone in Bristol is getting a tingle in their pants. What do you expect when half their staff is from UMass and the other half from NYU. I guess you could expect a lot of Cubs-Brewers highlights if ESPN was located in Waukegan halfway between Milwaukee and Chicago as opposed to being halfway between NYC and Boston. I gave up watching ESPN a long time ago, save yourself the frustration, turn them off. If you turn on Comcast Sports Net the Sox will always be first or at worst second, granted the graphics aren't as "cool" but it feels good in a small sort of way to stick it to the East Coast bozos in Bristol.

Fenway
04-12-2007, 04:14 PM
Red Sox fans hate ESPN because they think it is pro NYY

Yankees fans hate ESPN because they are pro-Boston

Mets fans just hate ESPN

Tragg
04-12-2007, 05:57 PM
ESPN is immensely biased toward the Red Sox (and toward U Conn - ESPN created U Conn athletics as a major program) -they are their home team. Is that really in doubt?

They are secondarily biased toward New York, probabably for economic reasons.

Fenway
04-12-2007, 06:03 PM
ESPN is immensely biased toward the Red Sox (and toward U Conn - ESPN created U Conn athletics as a major program) -they are their home team. Is that really in doubt?

They are secondarily biased toward New York, probabably for economic reasons.

ESPN was actually first created to be a UConn Network

The roots of ESPN can be traced to Bill Rasmussen, a television sports reporter for NBC affiliate Channel 22 in Springfield, MA. In the mid-1970s (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1970s), Rasmussen worked for the World Hockey Association (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Hockey_Association)'s New England Whalers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England_Whalers), selling commercial time for their broadcasts. His son Scott, a former high school goaltender, was the team's public-address announcer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_address_system). Both were fired in 1977 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977) and Rasmussen sought a new business venture. His original idea was a cable television (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cable_television) network (then a fairly new medium) that focused on covering sports events in the state of Connecticut (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connecticut) (for example, the Whalers and the Connecticut Huskies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connecticut_Huskies)). When Rasmussen was told that buying a continuous 24-hour satellite feed was less expensive than buying several blocks of only a few hours a night, he expanded to a 24-hour nationwide network. The channel's original name was ESP, for Entertainment and Sports Programming, but it was changed prior to launch.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN#_note-0)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN

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Lip Man 1
04-12-2007, 06:24 PM
The new ESPN omsbundsman takes the network to task:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=schreiber_leanne&id=2834650

Lip