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Uncle_Patrick
04-09-2007, 02:30 PM
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070409&content_id=1888084&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

I don't follow the Astro's very much, but I know that Brad Lidge has been struggling since the 2005 NLCS. I guess the Astros have finally had enough.

ComiskeyBrewer
04-09-2007, 02:31 PM
Lidge has been horrible since giving up that HR to Pujols. Wouldn't be shocked if he's traded.

skottyj242
04-09-2007, 02:35 PM
I'm contemplating dropping him and picking up his replacement in fantasy. Didn't they do this last year too? then ended up sticking with Lidge.

Mr.1Dog
04-09-2007, 02:43 PM
Lidge has been horrible since giving up that HR to Pujols. Wouldn't be shocked if he's traded.

Not to mention Pods' HR in Game 2.

skottyj242
04-09-2007, 02:44 PM
Not to mention Pods' HR in Game 2.

Which was an indirect result of the Pujols homer. He's saying that's when it all started.

doublem23
04-09-2007, 02:44 PM
Lidge has been horrible since giving up that HR to Pujols. Wouldn't be shocked if he's traded.

I would. His value is about as low as it can go. If Lidge turns it around to be at least 1/2 as good as he once was, he'd be 2 times better than anything they could get for him now.

EastCoastSoxFan
04-09-2007, 02:48 PM
Lidge's struggles may have started with Pujols' homer, but they were definitely aided by JD's post-game interview after Game 4 where he basically dissected Lidge's weaknesses for the entire televised world...

FedEx227
04-09-2007, 02:49 PM
Picking up Wheeler with the last pick in one of my fantasy leagues is already paying off.

I knew it was only a matter of time.

doublem23
04-09-2007, 02:52 PM
Picking up Wheeler with the last pick in one of my fantasy leagues is already paying off.

I knew it was only a matter of time.

It's looking good except for that 13.50 ERA he's sporting.

skottyj242
04-09-2007, 02:58 PM
It's looking good except for that 13.50 ERA he's sporting.

He's got a 9 ERA right now.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=2897

doublem23
04-09-2007, 03:02 PM
He's got a 9 ERA right now.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=2897

I stand corrected.

Nice job, MLB.com of having up-to-date stats.

http://houston.astros.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=235095

ComiskeyBrewer
04-09-2007, 03:03 PM
Which was an indirect result of the Pujols homer. He's saying that's when it all started.

Thanks for explaining it a little better than i did. That was my point.

INSox56
04-09-2007, 03:30 PM
Lidge's struggles may have started with Pujols' homer, but they were definitely aided by JD's post-game interview after Game 4 where he basically dissected Lidge's weaknesses for the entire televised world...

eh?

ComiskeyBrewer
04-09-2007, 04:14 PM
BTW, Wheeler got the save vs the cubs just a min ago. 1-2-3 inning.

Chrisaway
04-09-2007, 04:20 PM
Good thing I picked up Wheeler on my fantasy team:D:

Dibbs
04-09-2007, 05:14 PM
Lidge's struggles may have started with Pujols' homer, but they were definitely aided by JD's post-game interview after Game 4 where he basically dissected Lidge's weaknesses for the entire televised world...

What is this about? What did he say?

Whitesox029
04-09-2007, 05:21 PM
BTW, Wheeler got the save vs the cubs just a min ago. 1-2-3 inning.
And he can thank good ol' Bobby Howry and his 8th inning gopher ball to Adam Everett for the opportunity.

MDF3530
04-09-2007, 06:37 PM
Lidge has been horrible since giving up that HR to Pujols.Has that thing landed yet?

thomas35forever
04-09-2007, 07:57 PM
Poor guy. It's hard to believe one home run can have a negative psychological effect on a pitcher for the rest of his career (e.g. Donnie Moore, Mitch Williams). I just hope he'll be a decent pitcher from here on out.

EastCoastSoxFan
04-10-2007, 09:44 AM
What is this about? What did he say?JD basically said that even though Lidge has a good fastball he sometimes falls in love with his slider, so JD said he went up there looking for a slider in the zone that he could hit, and eventually he got one.
The Pujols home run, I believe, was also on a slider that caught too much of the strike zone...

russ99
04-10-2007, 10:07 AM
Lidge has been horrible since giving up that HR to Pujols. Wouldn't be shocked if he's traded.

I also follow the Astros and actually, there were quite a few months where he was a servicable closer last season, but Lidge's problems are completely mental.

This season's benching directly refers to opening night in Houston where he gave up a tying homer with 2 outs in the 9th, and the Astros ended up losing in extra frames. The fans booed him off the field and he wigged out a little in the dugout. 2 nights later, he served up the game-winning homer in extra innings to the same Pirates hitter.

After that Garner pretty much took him out of the role, but didn't announce it. The final straw was on Sunday where he gave up 5 runs in a non-save situation vs. the Cards.

Garner says he'll use Lidge in the 6th-7th innings, but I think that's a bad idea, and destined to failure.

The Astros are paying him way too much money to send to the minors, so maybe a change of scenery is what both Lidge and the Astros need. They have some surplus outfielders, so a trade of Lidge and maybe Lane to shore up their weak 4th starter spot could eventually happen.

At least Wheeler's a good reliever and will do well as closer. Nice job vs. the Cubs yesterday!

SBSoxFan
04-10-2007, 10:26 AM
It always seemed to me that the bigger the game, the worse Lidge was. And things would spiral from there.

WizardsofOzzie
04-10-2007, 04:15 PM
Wheeler didn't look much better today.

4 hits, 2 ER, 2 K's in 1 inning of work. Went from a 4-0 Astros lead to the Cubs putting the go ahead run at the plate

WhiteSoxJunkie
04-10-2007, 05:56 PM
Wheeler didn't look much better today.

4 hits, 2 ER, 2 K's in 1 inning of work. Went from a 4-0 Astros lead to the Cubs putting the go ahead run at the plate

And who was in the bullpen warming up when Wheeler got into trouble? Brad Lidge.

Tragg
04-10-2007, 06:19 PM
I don't see Wheeler as a permanent solution to their closer situation. He's a decent enough pitcher, good for set-up, but nothing special.

The problem with trading Lidge is that you won't get much for him. I think Roundrock is where he should go to work out his issues; but teams usualy don't do that.