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Jerry_Manuel
03-20-2002, 05:58 PM
``God Bless America'' will be sung during the seventh-inning stretch in each team's first homestand of the season, the commissioner's office said Wednesday, an extension of the practice that began after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news/ap/20020320/ap-flags-jackets.html)

RedPinStripes
03-20-2002, 06:02 PM
:tool
"This is a good way to promote MLB products. This will help MLB since we're broke."

Cheryl
03-20-2002, 06:23 PM
Flame away guys, but I hate that song.

cheeses_h_rice
03-20-2002, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by Cheryl
Flame away guys, but I hate that song.

No flame here; I find that song to be way too shrill.

Give me "America the Beautiful" any day of the year...

Daver
03-20-2002, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by Cheryl
Flame away guys, but I hate that song.

I'm a little burned out on that,once a year is enough for me.Why can't they change up songs in a rotation,there are plenty of patriotic songs out there,Woody Guthrie's "This land is your land" comes to mind.

Cheryl
03-20-2002, 09:11 PM
Originally posted by daver


I'm a little burned out on that,once a year is enough for me.Why can't they change up songs in a rotation,there are plenty of patriotic songs out there,Woody Guthrie's "This land is your land" comes to mind.

But daver, he was a commie !

Streets
03-20-2002, 11:19 PM
This is taking it way to far. What happened last year was already paid tribute to. Seeing "God bless America" is also an insult to those who may not believe in a god. Just leave the game alone and let the boys play. No songs or what have you. Just play baseball.

RedPinStripes
03-20-2002, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by Streets
This is taking it way to far. What happened last year was already paid tribute to. Seeing "God bless America" is also an insult to those who may not believe in a god. Just leave the game alone and let the boys play. No songs or what have you. Just play baseball.

yeah really. Whatever happened to take me out to the ball game?

MarqSox
03-21-2002, 09:04 AM
Hell, you all are reacting like Bud just announced the WTC was being painted in the outfield grass. It's what, 3, 4 games a year? Settle down. Frankly, I'm surprised that's all they're doing. I do agree that God Bless America is a somewhat ugly song -- I too am partial to America the Beautiful -- but I really see nothing wrong with all this.

Does anybody here love their country today less than they did in September? If you do, that's your right, and I'm not going to tell you you have to be rah-rah America ... but it shouldn't take a national tragedy every few months for us to remember what a damn fine country we live in.

harwar
03-21-2002, 09:15 AM
Originally posted by daver


there are plenty of patriotic songs out there,Woody Guthrie's "This land is your land" comes to mind.

I said that exact same thing in a bar a few weeks ago and to my surprised no one got angry.Woody Guthrie was a great American hero and a huge personal favorite of mine.He was not a commie.He was one of the first with enough guts to fight against the monster corporations taking over the land.I met his son once up in colorado in the early 70s and he told me that no one loved America more than his father.I also love this country and i have fought for her but i am very disappointed when i see how the trans-national corporations have taken over.

Iwritecode
03-21-2002, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by RedPinStripes
yeah really. Whatever happened to take me out to the ball game?

Talk about a song being over-played...


:chimp

Hey, I like that song!

:barney&sham

I've sang it! It's stupendous!

:harry&jimmy

Shut up you guys, I was the one who started it...




The only thing I can say is:
:thankgod

RedPinStripes
03-21-2002, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by Iwritecode


Talk about a song being over-played...


:chimp

Hey, I like that song!

:barney&sham

I've sang it! It's stupendous!

:harry&jimmy

Shut up you guys, I was the one who started it...




The only thing I can say is:
:thankgod


I should have thought before i posted that one. lol

ihatethecubs
03-21-2002, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by Cheryl
Flame away guys, but I hate that song.

no, that song really blows.

Mathew
03-21-2002, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by harwar


I said that exact same thing in a bar a few weeks ago and to my surprised no one got angry.Woody Guthrie was a great American hero and a huge personal favorite of mine.He was not a commie.He was one of the first with enough guts to fight against the monster corporations taking over the land.I met his son once up in colorado in the early 70s and he told me that no one loved America more than his father.I also love this country and i have fought for her but i am very disappointed when i see how the trans-national corporations have taken over.

Arlo Guthrie often comes up to little Canmore and play at our folk music festival, and I think that Woody's is very appropriate. How about I plug my patriotism and suggest that we put a Canadian flag on the jackets. Your neighbours to the north have lost lives in the WTC and in Afganistan.

MarqSox
03-21-2002, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by Mathew


Arlo Guthrie often comes up to little Canmore and play at our folk music festival, and I think that Woody's is very appropriate. How about I plug my patriotism and suggest that we put a Canadian flag on the jackets. Your neighbours to the north have lost lives in the WTC and in Afganistan.

You forget we're arrogant elitist Americans, which I guess is what got us in this situation to begin with ... but, I can't say I disagree. Still, the Jays and Spos will get their own maple leaf version.

Also, I gotta admit, O Canada is an infinitely better song than the Star Spangled Banner.

Cheryl
03-21-2002, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by Iwritecode

There are people that will be reminded every day for the rest of their lives. It won't be because of a song being sung at a baseball game, I'll tell you that much. It's not going to kill us to remember those people and pay tribute to them one more time. It hasn't even been 6 months yet.

It has been six months, as of 3/11.

Dadawg_77
03-21-2002, 06:34 PM
Look, there is showing love and respect to your country. But when business get involved it is about one thing only. Maybe that's why they like God Bless America because the only thing business cares about, puts its trust in God. When patriotism becomes commercialism, it just turns me off. This isn't about remembering anyone, a nice simple moment of silence is the proper way to remember victims.

Streets
03-21-2002, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by Dadawg_77
Look, there is showing love and respect to your country. But when business get involved it is about one thing only. Maybe that's why they like God Bless America because the only thing business cares about, puts its trust in God. When patriotism becomes commercialism, it just turns me off. This isn't about remembering anyone, a nice simple moment of silence is the proper way to remember victims.


I just want to be able to go to a baseball game and not have a god or whatnot thrown at me. Just let the boys play.

bjmarte
03-22-2002, 07:31 AM
Originally posted by Streets



I just want to be able to go to a baseball game and not have a god or whatnot thrown at me. Just let the boys play.

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?s=&postid=73857


What does the separation of church and state have to do with anything?

MarqSox
03-22-2002, 08:15 AM
Originally posted by bjmarte


What does the separation of church and state have to do with anything?

God Bless America = Church And State

OutInLeftField
03-22-2002, 05:39 PM
I don't know about the Church and State thing (Baseball not being state run) but it honestly makes me mad all over again everytime I think of it (9/11) and I don't want to be thinking about it when I am half in the bag at the ballpark.

I agree that it is just another merchandise ploy and a chance for Bud to plug his wallett-padding All Star game.

MarqSox
03-22-2002, 06:56 PM
Even if it is a "merchandising ploy" -- which I disagree with -- how is it any different than, say, a company getting rich off cross necklaces or WWJD bracelets? They're getting rich off the death of Jesus. Or how is it different than the Bears wearing "34" patches on their jerseys after Payton died? They sold a ton of those patches. I could go on.

My point is, believe it or not, some people DONT want to forget 9/11 ... or, at least, they realize it's important enough that we SHOULDNT forget it. If that means spending 1 minute while I'm at a baseball game TWICE A YEAR getting a tad somber, what the hell is the problem with that? If it means baseball sells an extra few thousand hats, well, good for them.

You all can argue the issue of God Bless America being a musically and socially reprehensible song, fine, but the idea that MLB should just forget 9/11 ever happened ... well, that's more insulting to those families than any small profit MLB will see from it.

OutInLeftField
03-22-2002, 10:05 PM
I hear you MarqSox but I think that money grubber is all about the press release. My initial reaction was "Don't we remember Americans who died for freedom EVERY Memorial Day and Fourth of July? Why is this idiot talking about this?"

It's the MLB not the Department of Patriotic Displays.