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Madscout
03-06-2007, 01:38 PM
Interesting to see that this article lists 3 AL central teams in the top five. I personally don't think the Tigers can repeat the sucess that they had in '06, but interesting that some writers think so highly of these rotations. He still had to pay lip service to the big money trades.

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070305&content_id=1829796&vkey=spt2007news&fext=.jsp

rdivaldi
03-06-2007, 01:43 PM
The Tribe #2????

Why has every sports mediot had a hard-on for the Tribe for the past 3 years? Ugh!

AuroraSoxFan
03-06-2007, 02:07 PM
The Tribe #2????

Why has every sports mediot had a hard-on for the Tribe for the past 3 years? Ugh!

Isn't that ridiculous. Besides their 1.5-2 month surge 2nd half of 05 they really haven't done very much. a team should have more than 2 solid months of ball over 3-4 years to get that kind of attention. That said, I am glad the AL Central is finally getting some solid recognition.

oeo
03-06-2007, 02:33 PM
I'm surprised Boston isn't on there. ESPN makes it sound like they have the best rotation ever. :rolleyes:

captainclutch24
03-06-2007, 02:46 PM
I don't understand everyones love for the Indians this year. If we had a more proven fifth starter without a doubt we would be top 3 rotation. I think come september though we will be a top 3 rotation.

MUsoxfan
03-06-2007, 02:50 PM
Of that list, I'd go 1) Tigers 2) Angels 3) Sox 4) Padres 5) Indians

I'm certainly not sold on the Indians rotation, but Westbrook has our number for sure.

nebraskasox
03-06-2007, 03:00 PM
I think Cleveland is going to be tough. Tribe fans think Sowers is the real deal. Their rotation looks solid and they have plenty of offense. Can Kenny Rogers be that good again? I hope not along with the rest of the Tiger rotation. I hope the Sox are better prepared to handle lefties this year since they will get a good dose from the AL Central. Should be a great 3-4 team race. It doesn't seem like you can ever count out the Twins.

MUsoxfan
03-06-2007, 03:18 PM
Cleveland needs to get 7 innings out of every starter with that craptacular bullpen they have

Madscout
03-06-2007, 03:39 PM
The Tribe #2????

Why has every sports mediot had a hard-on for the Tribe for the past 3 years? Ugh!

I wondered about that too. The article makes the argument that they miss very few starts, makes a big deal that there are three lefties, and says that the suceed at the major league level. So they stay healthy, but i seem to rember a lot of games last year where they gave up 7+ runs, even a slug fest with Baltimore that was like 20 to 10 for a final score. However, they seemed to play close games with us.

DarkHorse35
03-06-2007, 03:42 PM
Cleveland needs to get 7 innings out of every starter with that craptacular bullpen they have

i'd say that it's more like 9 innings. Joe Borowski as your closer is the stuff of nightmares.

SoxxoS
03-06-2007, 03:48 PM
I'm surprised Boston isn't on there. ESPN makes it sound like they have the best rotation ever. :rolleyes:

Dice K is going to be a mix between Clemens and Koufax - Defintely not Hideki Irabu or Chan-Ho.

He throws the Gyroball...:rolleyes: I really, really hope he flops.

kevingrt
03-06-2007, 04:15 PM
The Tribe #2????

Why has every sports mediot had a hard-on for the Tribe for the past 3 years? Ugh!

That is so true. Whenever I watch or read anything baseball and pitching the Indians are always mentioned. And not only this year but the past three years, it is ridiculous. These youth prospects must be developing sometime sooon, right?

WhiteSoxFan84
03-06-2007, 05:06 PM
The Best MLB Pitching Rotation in 2008:

Contreras/Zambrano/Garland/Vazquez/Floyd or Danks

:cool:

I want Mags back
03-06-2007, 08:04 PM
im just surprised we made the top 5 with no proven 5th

Daver
03-06-2007, 08:10 PM
im just surprised we made the top 5 with no proven 5th


Says a lot about the quality of starting pitching throughout MLB doesn't it?

RockyMtnSoxFan
03-06-2007, 09:22 PM
The Tribe #2????

Why has every sports mediot had a hard-on for the Tribe for the past 3 years? Ugh!

I think it's been longer than three years. I remember about 4 or maybe even 5 years ago, when they were flat out terrible, that Peter Gammons was saying they were going to be the best team in the majors in 2005, definitely by 2006. He was obsessed with the way they were rebuilding. He wrote about it so much that other writers seemed to believe it must be true.

I think the Sox got in there based as much on potential as anything. I don't think the numbers from last year put them in the top 5, but I think most people would agree that they should be better than that. I expect Buehrle and Contreras in particular to pick it up.

soxinem1
03-07-2007, 11:05 AM
The Tribe #2????

Why has every sports mediot had a hard-on for the Tribe for the past 3 years? Ugh!

Because the knucklehead experts think if they keep choosing them, one day they will be right.

As it is, other than two guys, they have a few major questions in their rotation, IMO.

I agree with the rest, even the White Sox ranking of #5, esp. considering the musical chairs the 5 spot may be again.

IndianWhiteSox
03-07-2007, 11:18 AM
Because the knucklehead experts think if they keep choosing them, one day they will be right.

As it is, other than two guys, they have a few major questions in their rotation, IMO.

I agree with the rest, even the White Sox ranking of #5, esp. considering the musical chairs the 5 spot may be again.

Not with Gavin Floyd at the helm.

Says a lot about the quality of starting pitching throughout MLB doesn't it?

No it speaks about how gavin floyd will win 20 games this year.

balke
03-07-2007, 08:06 PM
I'm interested to see how the Phillies rotation does this season. Moyer and Lieber are old, but there's a lot of potential on that roster if they have good years. D-backs look real good 1-4. Blue Jays rotation looks solid.

Also, Let me say that it doesn't seem fitting to me to put the Angels so high without Bartolo.

kitekrazy
03-07-2007, 10:47 PM
I personally don't think the Tigers can repeat the sucess that they had in '06,

Losing to a barely over .500 NL teams is a major failure. They should be denied post season play next season.

santo=dorf
03-07-2007, 11:02 PM
, but Westbrook has our number for sure.
Or not.
7-7, 4.87 ERA, 1.38 WHIP career, but he did pitch very well against us last season.

Cliff Lee isn't that good and his 2005 was pretty much due to beating the crap out of the Royals and getting loads of runs support. Byrd is too old, and Westbrook really looks like a one year wonder.
Year_ERA_WHIP
2001_5.85-1.56
2002_5.83-1.49
2003_4.33-1.49
2004_3.38-1.25
2005_4.49-1.30
2006_4.17-1.43

He allows a lot of base runners and depends highly on the defense behind him. That's not good because Cleveland's middle infield is baaaad defensively.