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twsoxfan5
02-23-2007, 03:51 PM
I was reading an article on ESPN.com about Matsuzaka's gyroball. They had a video clip from when he was pitching in Japan and he is striking out Iguchi. I had to watch it a few times, but I recognized his swing and that face that he makes when he strikes out, when you see it you'll know what I'm talking about. Here is the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sboi0EWp8ao

IndianWhiteSox
02-23-2007, 03:52 PM
I was reading an article on ESPN.com about Matsuzaka's gyroball. They had a video clip from when he was pitching in Japan and he is striking out Iguchi. I had to watch it a few times, but I recognized his swing and that face that he makes when he strikes out, when you see it you'll know what I'm talking about. Here is the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sboi0EWp8ao

Wasn't there already a thread on this?

balke
02-23-2007, 03:53 PM
Wasn't Contreras throwing the gyroball for a while last season? I swear at the beginning of the season I saw a couple games where he had a nasty pitch that they labeled the gyro.

twsoxfan5
02-23-2007, 03:59 PM
Wasn't there already a thread on this?
Looked for one and couldn't find it, but it looks like I am going to be subject to a lot of "The Search Button is your friend responses."

WhiteSox1983
02-23-2007, 04:04 PM
that pitch dont impress me.
The way peter gammons talked about it, i was expecting the next coming of christ.

WhiteSox5187
02-23-2007, 04:07 PM
that pitch dont impress me.
The way peter gammons talked about it, i was expecting the next coming of christ.
Yea, it doesn't wow me away either. It's a screwball...and Japanese pitchers historically have a very short shelf life in the US (Shingo, anyone?).

areilly
02-23-2007, 05:11 PM
Wasn't Contreras throwing the gyroball for a while last season? I swear at the beginning of the season I saw a couple games where he had a nasty pitch that they labeled the gyro.

You mean the pitch where the ball would bounce in the dirt and sail over A.J.'s head?

I saw those games too.

Domeshot17
02-23-2007, 05:16 PM
Yea, it doesn't wow me away either. It's a screwball...and Japanese pitchers historically have a very short shelf life in the US (Shingo, anyone?).

Well lets be fair. Shingo got hit because hitter's learned to sit on the frisbee and go after his 83 mph fastball. Dice-K will get hit, I believe that, but not a fair comparison. He is younger, has velo in the 90's, could be a solid pitcher. My real guess is he starts out really hot, maybe wins 9-10 before the all star game, then gets hit hard in the 2nd half as hitters learn to adjust. This isn't Japan. This is the league that was too hard for Japanese Stars like Tuffy Rhodes and Benny Agbayani. Maybe he is the next Nomo, we shall see.

ondafarm
02-23-2007, 05:41 PM
Daisuke is a major league caliber pitcher. I have seen him pitch (live) although he may not appreciate the oddities of Fenway Park. I don't think he will be the next Cy Young (pitcher or the award) but I think a 15-10 season is within his capabilities.

soltrain21
02-23-2007, 08:09 PM
Daisuke is a major league caliber pitcher. I have seen him pitch (live) although he may not appreciate the oddities of Fenway Park. I don't think he will be the next Cy Young (pitcher or the award) but I think a 15-10 season is within his capabilities.


Yeah, he seems about as close to an "American pitcher" that there could be.

esbrechtel
02-24-2007, 01:02 AM
Wasn't there already a thread on this?
Indianwhitesox is right...here is the thread...and Clembasbal is the one who brought it up...on page 2 of the thread (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=80328&page=2&highlight=gyroball)...

Scottiehaswheels
02-24-2007, 01:05 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=ArOgidK87NDs531PdSEgQA4RvLYF?slug=jp-mlb_07_gyroball022107&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Pretty good article about what the gyro ball actually is... Interesting read