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itsnotrequired
02-20-2007, 09:14 AM
A pitcher stands on the mound in the August sun, tugging at the bill of his sweat-soaked cap, stained white with the salt of his labors.

That might be an image of the past if Major League Baseball's new caps work according to plan.

Big-league caps traditionally have been made of 100% wool. The new caps, debuting opening day, look just like the old ones despite being 100% polyester.

MLB and its cap manufacturer, New Era, say the new fabric is designed to "wick" away sweat and evaporate it while reducing the stains, odor, shrinkage and fading that come with wool.


http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2007-02-19-baseball-caps-focus_x.htm

eriqjaffe
02-20-2007, 09:42 AM
Somewhere, Eric Gagne is crying.

Thome25
02-20-2007, 09:49 AM
There was talk about the new BP and Game caps in this thread:

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=83931

The new game caps will be polyester. I own one and it's not that much different than the old wool ones.

rdivaldi
02-20-2007, 10:31 AM
Remind anyone of the Seinfeld episode when George convinces the Yankees to switch to all cotton uni's and they end up shrinking?

skottyj242
02-20-2007, 10:59 AM
I'm not too happy about this. New Era better let me convert all my wool ones to the new ones for free.:D:

ewokpelts
02-20-2007, 11:14 AM
I have no problem with this. As long as they keep making the wool caps to sell to the fans, it should be good.

Thome25
02-20-2007, 11:20 AM
I have no problem with this. As long as they keep making the wool caps to sell to the fans, it should be good.

The new caps are the ones they're making and selling to the fans as well. That's how I learned about the new caps.

I ordered one and noticed that it was a little different than the old ones and felt a little different too.

skottyj242
02-20-2007, 11:26 AM
The new caps are the ones they're making and selling to the fans as well. That's how I learned about the new caps.

I ordered one and noticed that it was a little different than the old ones and felt a little different too.

Do they fit the same?

TDog
02-20-2007, 11:45 AM
Do they fit the same?


That is an excellent question. Baseball uniforms were made of wool before teams went to polyester, and polyester uniforms require less meticulous care. Wool is superior to cotton, not just because cotton shrinks, but because it holds in moisture (which is why they tell you not to wear cotton when you go hiking in Southeast Alaska, as it can lead to fatal hypothermia). Newer polyesters do a better job of keeping moisture away from the body.

I've owned a number of wool caps, and sizing is always a challenge. Ordering them by mail is a problem because sizes can be inconsistent. I've also found that getting them just a bit big isn't a bad idea because the ones that are not worn constantly will shrink over time.

If the new caps feel the same, retain their size and are easier to keep clean, this could be a good development.

Thome25
02-20-2007, 11:48 AM
Do they fit the same?

They fit exactly the same. To me, the only difference is the sweatband on the inside is black. It feels a little different on my forehead and takes a little getting used to.

Thome25
02-20-2007, 11:59 AM
That is an excellent question. Baseball uniforms were made of wool before teams went to polyester, and polyester uniforms require less meticulous care. Wool is superior to cotton, not just because cotton shrinks, but because it holds in moisture (which is why they tell you not to wear cotton when you go hiking in Southeast Alaska, as it can lead to fatal hypothermia). Newer polyesters do a better job of keeping moisture away from the body.

I've owned a number of wool caps, and sizing is always a challenge. Ordering them by mail is a problem because sizes can be inconsistent. I've also found that getting them just a bit big isn't a bad idea because the ones that are not worn constantly will shrink over time.

If the new caps feel the same, retain their size and are easier to keep clean, this could be a good development.

Not all New era caps are the same. Even though the size on the inside says one thing, the cap may still run too small.

I read an article once that says the reason for this is because New Era uses different machines to make the same caps. Some of the machines may be 50 years old and others may only be 20 years old.

Different machines make caps that are slightly different in size, shape....etc. That's the reason for the size variation.

When I order a cap online I usually order one size bigger than what I actually need.

For example, I usually wear a 7 1/2 but, I order a 7 5/8 because some caps run smaller than others. That way I know it'll fit.

Same goes for batting Practice caps. I usually wear a medium-large but, lately I'll order a large-extra large because some caps run smaller than others.

I've been burned on the M-L caps because when I get them sometimes they're too small.

twsoxfan5
02-20-2007, 12:04 PM
I've always been a Franchise hat fan myself. I think the hats look great and fit much better than the wool official hats. Although there is some variance is sizes with these hats as well.

skottyj242
02-20-2007, 12:13 PM
The only fitted hat I would ever odred online would be a flex fit.

tick53
02-20-2007, 12:42 PM
I'm not sure that I like this:?: . I love traditional caps and I'm not a fan of the new low profile, one size fits all, stretchable caps. The company I work for gives away those "beanies with bills" type caps and I hate them. I have a big head anyway and real baseball caps are the only kind I can wear that don't look ridiculous.

Brian26
02-20-2007, 09:29 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2007-02-19-baseball-caps-focus_x.htm

How have you missed the other 17 threads on this in the past month? :smile:

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1478835&postcount=11 (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1478835&postcount=11)

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1484117&postcount=6 (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1484117&postcount=6)

itsnotrequired
02-20-2007, 10:32 PM
How have you missed the other 17 threads on this in the past month? :smile:

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1478835&postcount=11 (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1478835&postcount=11)

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1484117&postcount=6 (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1484117&postcount=6)



I like the links you provided in those posts. "Another MLB board" as a source? Consider me impressed!

:D:

The Dude
02-20-2007, 10:42 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2007-02-19-baseball-caps-focus_x.htm

Good, I personally don't like the wool hats at all.

oeo
02-20-2007, 10:59 PM
The only fitted hat I would ever odred online would be a flex fit.

You just have to break it in if it's a little snug. Even if that means feeling like you have a rubber band around your head for a day or two. :tongue:

My hat was too tight when I first got it, but it's perfect now (at least to me...I like it pretty tight, some people might not like that), and I don't know if I could get that same perfectness if I went for a size bigger.

Railsplitter
02-21-2007, 10:30 AM
I get the impression this is for marketing purposes only. I haven't heard anybody mention a need for going away from the wool caps.

ewokpelts
02-21-2007, 11:07 AM
I get the impression this is for marketing purposes only. I haven't heard anybody mention a need for going away from the wool caps.
i think the league wants to get away from sweaty hat syndrome...and the costs asscociated with it.....if the new hats last longer, then that's less $ the teams dole out on hats for the players

Thome25
02-21-2007, 12:26 PM
i think the league wants to get away from sweaty hat syndrome...and the costs asscociated with it.....if the new hats last longer, then that's less $ the teams dole out on hats for the players

Plus "sweaty hat syndrome" isn't fun to look at either. It's pretty disgusting when a player has a sweaty, ratty, dirty looking cap on.

I.E. Freddy Garcia, and Eric Gagne........can anyone name some other ones?

Plus, I think MLB is trying to promote a professional image......to me it isn't professional for your cap to look all sweaty and dirty, with the colors bleeding all over the logos etc..

IndianWhiteSox
02-23-2007, 12:16 PM
Plus "sweaty hat syndrome" isn't fun to look at either. It's pretty disgusting when a player has a sweaty, ratty, dirty looking cap on.

I.E. Freddy Garcia, and Eric Gagne........can anyone name some other ones?

Plus, I think MLB is trying to promote a professional image......to me it isn't professional for your cap to look all sweaty and dirty, with the colors bleeding all over the logos etc..

But I don't understand how a synthetic cap would do that? Considering the fact it will still be very hot and humid during the summer time.

Grzegorz
02-23-2007, 10:30 PM
With lower demand (speculating) maybe the price on the wool hats will drop.

ewokpelts
02-24-2007, 12:50 AM
But I don't understand how a synthetic cap would do that? Considering the fact it will still be very hot and humid during the summer time.they "wick" the moisture out of the hats...basically, the water and salt dont stay in the fabric, and air flows more freely into the hat, and thus teh head is not as hot, thus reducing sweat.

IndianWhiteSox
02-24-2007, 06:07 AM
they "wick" the moisture out of the hats...basically, the water and salt don't stay in the fabric, and air flows more freely into the hat, and thus the head is not as hot, thus reducing sweat.

If that's the case, it may also cut down on scuffing as well.

hi im skot
03-31-2007, 04:22 PM
Picked up one of the new Sox caps today. At this point in time, I'm definitely liking it more than the wool ones, but check back with me in a couple months.

dickallen15
03-31-2007, 09:04 PM
Picked up one of the new Sox caps today. At this point in time, I'm definitely liking it more than the wool ones, but check back with me in a couple months.
I checked them out at Sports Authority and can't wear them. I am normally a 7 1/2 hat size, I tried about 5 different ones that size and they all were too big. I tried a few 7 3/8 and they all seemed a little tight. I'll keep my wool one.

Red Barchetta
04-01-2007, 01:33 PM
With lower demand (speculating) maybe the price on the wool hats will drop.

My local sports shop already has the "old" wool hats at 50% off to make room for the new ones. Personally, I don't like the black underbill and prefer the light gray. The SOX hat especially looks too dark due to it being black anyway. Outside of the black bill and sweatband, you really can't tell the difference.

I had thought MLB had replaced the green underbills for the gray underbills to help visibility. I wonder if the black underbill logic will work out in the long run.