PaleHoseGeorge
07-31-2001, 07:33 PM
I never had much respect for Rob Neyer's stathead-driven analysis, but this pile of crap he wrote for ESPN Classic reveals what I've always suspected: that the man is incapable of making a cogent argument, especially when stripped of his security blanket of numbers. This is first-rate garbage. I could go on for hours poking holes in this guy's assertions.
I'm Rob Neyer, the Boob (http://espn.go.com/classic/s/2001/0730/1232950.html)
I'll only debunk the most egregious of his mistakes because it simply isn't worth any more effort.
1. Jackson and Cicotte's "confessions" were missing for years. Anyone who would try to use them as evidence would have it tossed out as hearsay. Of course Neyer convicts both of them on this very evidence. That's why we have laws, Rob. To protect the rest of us from numbskulls like you.
2. The notion that the "confessions" of a leftfielder and a pitcher who only pitched 3 games controlled the outcome of all eight is ludicrous on its face. Neyer even suggests that the triples Cincinnati hit were played into triples by Jackson's poor fielding. I had no idea a leftfielder was so valuable to a team.
3. Neyer calls Jackson's homerun and 2-rbi double in Game 5 "meaningless" because the score was already 10-1. Yes of course, in Neyer's world Jackson should have circled the bases, picked up his bat and kept hitting doubles and homeruns until the score was 11-10. What else was he suppose to do?!!!
(As an aside, don't you just love when statheads like Neyer use qualitative terms to pass judgment on a player's performance? "Meaningless" 2-rbi double? What, couldn't Neyer find some esoteric stat to make his point, or is he admitting statistics will only take his goofy argument so far?).
I could go on and on. The bottom line is Rob Neyer needs to stick with statistics where morons of equal intellect can appreciate his genius.
I'm Rob Neyer, the Boob (http://espn.go.com/classic/s/2001/0730/1232950.html)
I'll only debunk the most egregious of his mistakes because it simply isn't worth any more effort.
1. Jackson and Cicotte's "confessions" were missing for years. Anyone who would try to use them as evidence would have it tossed out as hearsay. Of course Neyer convicts both of them on this very evidence. That's why we have laws, Rob. To protect the rest of us from numbskulls like you.
2. The notion that the "confessions" of a leftfielder and a pitcher who only pitched 3 games controlled the outcome of all eight is ludicrous on its face. Neyer even suggests that the triples Cincinnati hit were played into triples by Jackson's poor fielding. I had no idea a leftfielder was so valuable to a team.
3. Neyer calls Jackson's homerun and 2-rbi double in Game 5 "meaningless" because the score was already 10-1. Yes of course, in Neyer's world Jackson should have circled the bases, picked up his bat and kept hitting doubles and homeruns until the score was 11-10. What else was he suppose to do?!!!
(As an aside, don't you just love when statheads like Neyer use qualitative terms to pass judgment on a player's performance? "Meaningless" 2-rbi double? What, couldn't Neyer find some esoteric stat to make his point, or is he admitting statistics will only take his goofy argument so far?).
I could go on and on. The bottom line is Rob Neyer needs to stick with statistics where morons of equal intellect can appreciate his genius.