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bryPt
02-15-2007, 06:41 AM
Check out the Sun Times today, back page:

"Tribune on Trial"

After 26 years of mismanagement, we're charging Cub's owner with negligence and neglect."

front page:

"FREE THE CUBS!"

The Sun-Times puts the Tribune on Trial. the Charge: The Trib has ruined the Cubs.

First off, thanks for stating the obvious Sun-Times. DUH.

Second off, Chicago is now the laughing stock in the U.S. of A for being the armpit of print journalism.

What ever happened to reporting the news in this city? From Downey dreaming up curses, blatant Cubune bias over at the tower, and the Sun-Times thinking they are the red headed stepchild, and actually acting like one, our city is a joke.

ewokpelts
02-15-2007, 06:51 AM
This coming from the Cub Times

IndianWhiteSox
02-15-2007, 06:57 AM
The sad part is that, this will only get worse as people aren't causing them to change whatever BS they are typing up. I think a few posters said it best when stating that the sports media in this city is a joke and the fact the writers don't have enough sense to write what is going on. As they say, newspapers in the US are written at a 9TH Grade level. Unlike other countries(like mine) where the article uncovers everything but people are still stupid and lazy enough not to care. I guess the Sun-Times is just jealous that the Trib owns the SCRUBS. Whatever, as I realize I'm glad I'm 10000 miles away and that baseball season starts in two months.

vegyrex
02-15-2007, 01:32 PM
What a joke! If this was a real trial a judge would dismiss the case.:D:

I mean, sure the Cubbies are losers under Cubune ownership, but they were losers BEFORE Cubune ownership.

chisoxmike
02-15-2007, 01:39 PM
Even as a Sox fan and a Sun-Times reader, I think it's pretty stupid.

spawn
02-15-2007, 01:42 PM
Meanwhile, this is what the online Sun-Times sports section looks like today:



(http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/index.html)Cubs (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/index.html)
(http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/index.html)Weighing the evidence (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/258321,CST-SPT-cubsell15.article)
(http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/index.html)Piniella bringing his Lou-isville swagger (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/258300,CST-SPT-cub15.article)
(http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/index.html)Light-hander Wood drops 30 pounds (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/258316,CST-SPT-wood15.article)
(http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/index.html)Zambrano to clarify his status (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/258329,CST-SPT-zamb15.article)
(http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/index.html)Cubs can't resist itch to stick underwear logo in outfield (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/258313,CST-SPT-cubnt15.article)
(http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/index.html)Hendry felt obliged to spend freely (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/deluca/258315,CST-SPT-deluca15.article)
(http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/index.html)We want to hear from you (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/258243,CST-SPT-inbox15.article)
(http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/index.html)White Sox (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/index.html)
(http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/index.html)Ozzie: The appetite's back (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/258240,CST-SPT-sox15.article)
(http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/index.html)

Maybe they want to buy the Cubs from the Trib...:rolleyes:

CHIsoxNation
02-15-2007, 01:57 PM
Meanwhile, this is what the online Sun-Times sports section looks like today:




Maybe they want to buy the Cubs from the Trib...:rolleyes:


In all fairness, I'm sure the Sun Times had more to write about the Cubs since their pitchers and catchers reported yesterday. Not really much else they could write about the Sox other than what has already been said since Soxfest. I'm sure that will change after this weekend.

Hitmen77
02-15-2007, 02:55 PM
Meanwhile, this is what the online Sun-Times sports section looks like today:




Maybe they want to buy the Cubs from the Trib...:rolleyes:


Somewhere out there, Hangar is adding this to his tally. :wink:

RKMeibalane
02-15-2007, 03:22 PM
Somewhere out there, Hangar is adding this to his tally. :wink:

Where is Hangar anyway? Was he banned again?

RadioheadRocks
02-15-2007, 04:55 PM
Meanwhile, this is what the online Sun-Times sports section looks like today:
Quote:

(http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/index.html)Cubs (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/index.html)
(http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/index.html)Weighing the evidence (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/258321,CST-SPT-cubsell15.article)
(http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/index.html)Piniella bringing his Lou-isville swagger (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/258300,CST-SPT-cub15.article)
(http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/index.html)Light-hander Wood drops 30 pounds (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/258316,CST-SPT-wood15.article)
(http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/index.html)Zambrano to clarify his status (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/258329,CST-SPT-zamb15.article)
(http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/index.html)Cubs can't resist itch to stick underwear logo in outfield (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/258313,CST-SPT-cubnt15.article)
(http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/index.html)Hendry felt obliged to spend freely (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/deluca/258315,CST-SPT-deluca15.article)
(http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/index.html)We want to hear from you (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/258243,CST-SPT-inbox15.article)
(http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/index.html)White Sox (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/index.html)
(http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/index.html)Ozzie: The appetite's back (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/258240,CST-SPT-sox15.article)
(http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/index.html)






I guess that means they don't want to hear from US. :rolleyes:

WizardsofOzzie
02-15-2007, 05:00 PM
Where is Hangar anyway? Was he banned again?
I believe so but i don't recall what for.

The Dude
02-15-2007, 05:44 PM
Where is Hangar anyway? Was he banned again?

:hawk

"HE GONE!"

JUribe1989
02-15-2007, 05:58 PM
The Tribune is too busy killing them in circulation to even care a little bit.

Vernam
02-15-2007, 07:23 PM
The Sun-Times is Flubsessed! If they're serious about turning this into a series, that's just weak. But if it's really war, you have to love this headline from today's Sun-Times: "Cubs can't resist itch to stick underwear logo in outfield (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/258313,CST-SPT-cubnt15.article)." :roflmao:

My theory on all the front-loaded Cubs coverage in both papers is that they know the team will be out of contention by July, so they're getting as much mileage of them as possible right now.

Vernam

98navigator
02-15-2007, 07:34 PM
This is obviously nothing but a ploy by the Times to get Cubs' fans money at the news stand. What are they talking about with the "Cubs as public trust?" The only people who really care if the Trib has abused the Cubs are their fans! From a business standpoint, that team is netting them nothing but cash and they've actually had very competitive payrolls over the last few years.

In other news, did anyone see this gem in Greg Couch's column?

Mod edit: You newcomers really need to read all about fair use, stuck at the top of the Clubhouse board. Fair use is approximately 10% of the article. You quoted a whole lot more than that. First and only warning.



:angry::angry::angry::angry:




I'll admit that I don't read this guy all the time so I don't know if this is something new or a pattern of Sox bashing.

tebman
02-15-2007, 07:54 PM
I couldn't find a link to it, but there was a story I read recently in a local magazine that talked about the Sun-Times current editor. He was depicted as a real news guy but also one who was going to make full use of the tabloid format and its traditions ("MAN BITES DOG!" "ANNA NICOLE SMITH STILL DEAD!", etc.).

Part of that in-your-face strategy is to put outrageous things on the front and back pages. This "Tribune on Trial" nonsense is just part of that. So far it's worked: we're talking about it. :redneck

caulfield12
02-15-2007, 08:21 PM
I couldn't find a link to it, but there was a story I read recently in a local magazine that talked about the Sun-Times current editor. He was depicted as a real news guy but also one who was going to make full use of the tabloid format and its traditions ("MAN BITES DOG!" "ANNA NICOLE SMITH STILL DEAD!", etc.).

Part of that in-your-face strategy is to put outrageous things on the front and back pages. This "Tribune on Trial" nonsense is just part of that. So far it's worked: we're talking about it. :redneck


Maybe they should hire the newspaper editor from Spiderman while they're at it.

Navarro's Talent
02-15-2007, 08:28 PM
It was a pretty stupid article. I'm still a bit confused as to why the Sun-Times even did this.

thomas35forever
02-15-2007, 10:32 PM
I thought they were serious at first and became confused. When I saw they were going to present cases on both sides, I didn't take it seriously anymore.

ewokpelts
02-16-2007, 01:43 AM
The Tribune is too busy killing them in circulation to even care a little bit.juiced numbers, no less! they learned from the baseball division!

SOXSINCE'70
02-16-2007, 07:33 AM
Maybe they should hire the newspaper editor from Spiderman while they're at it.

That would be J Jonah Jameson,IIRC.
At least in the 1967 episodes I enjoyed as a kid.

JB98
02-16-2007, 10:37 PM
Meanwhile, this is what the online Sun-Times sports section looks like today:




Maybe they want to buy the Cubs from the Trib...:rolleyes:


The Cubs have already reported to camp. The Sox have not. That is the reason for the disparity in stories. Put away your tinfoil hats.

jeffmcmahon
02-21-2007, 07:43 AM
Fair use is not 10 percent of the article. There's no percentage established for fair use.

http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html

Anyway, if the Sun-Times is firing all guns at the Tribune, they didn't have many bullets. What happened to "The Trial of the Century"?

Frontman
02-21-2007, 07:55 AM
Maybe they should hire the newspaper editor from Spiderman while they're at it.

J Jonah Jameson would never put up with Marriotti.

:moron

"You wanted to see me boss?"

"Yeah, Harrelson says your a turd. I happen to agree with him. Get out of my office."


:hawk


"HE GONE!"


Ah, what a day THAT could be. But alas, Jay is nationally "popular" *snicker.*

WizardsofOzzie
02-21-2007, 08:14 AM
Fair use is not 10 percent of the article. There's no percentage established for fair use.

http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html

Anyway, if the Sun-Times is firing all guns at the Tribune, they didn't have many bullets. What happened to "The Trial of the Century"?
Well thats what the mods want so either we obey by their rules or get shown the door. I don't think it's too much to ask

ondafarm
02-21-2007, 03:15 PM
Fired all guns eh?

Did they notice?

TornLabrum
02-21-2007, 06:56 PM
Fair use is not 10 percent of the article. There's no percentage established for fair use.

http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html

Anyway, if the Sun-Times is firing all guns at the Tribune, they didn't have many bullets. What happened to "The Trial of the Century"?

Let's just put it this way. I've done some research, and 10% of a short article is considered to be safe to quote and be called fair use.

Let's put it another way. You want to argue about it, you can post somewhere else.

MarySwiss
02-21-2007, 07:09 PM
Let's just put it this way. I've done some research, and 10% of a short article is considered to be safe to quote and be called fair use.

Let's put it another way. You want to argue about it, you can post somewhere else.

As Hal said, the 10% is a fairly common yardstick, and as long as you're not making a profit from the material--and I don't think anyone could claim that WSI is--it's probably perfectly safe. However, there are some forms of artistic expression that you want to really watch out for. Songs, photographs, and poems, for example.

Where the real problem comes in is if someone is publishing a book for profit and quotes from a work not in the public domain. Good rule of thumb: if you're making money off it, be careful. And if you can get permission, do so.

Anyway, most of the back-and-forth here could be easily avoided if the poster just posted the link and refrained from quoting. In other words, if you really need to sound off, just write a summary sentence of the link. Don't quote from it.

FarWestChicago
02-21-2007, 08:01 PM
Fair use is not 10 percent of the article. There's no percentage established for fair use.

http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html

Anyway, if the Sun-Times is firing all guns at the Tribune, they didn't have many bullets. What happened to "The Trial of the Century"?Wrong answer. Take a vacation to think about it.